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Post by Chips on Aug 1, 2014 3:44:44 GMT
The US is airlifting two American citizens infected with the Ebola virus back to the US for treatment and it really has me thinking. It really does worry me thinking that someone has to make the decision that more lives will be lost just by moving these people back to the US.
While the US is probably one of the best places to find a cure for the ebola virus I feel like moving these two back to the US is like opening Pandora's box. Too scary and zombie apocalypse like for me.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 1, 2014 3:47:58 GMT
I don't feel like this should have happened.
Those two people very bravely chose to go to Africa to do important work. I admire then for that.
But they did so with the full knowledge that contracting a disease like Ebola was a very real possibility. They are both educated in what that means and the possible outcomes.
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Post by ntsf on Aug 1, 2014 3:48:01 GMT
we have a superior health system compared to west africa. I'm sure the risks have been considered. they won't be cured, hopefully, they will survive the virus. we know they have the disease. what is scarier is someone who is infected and doesn't know it and comes to the us.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 3:53:40 GMT
They are going into an isolation tank, basically, in a hospital geared to handle it and under the CDC's watch. I'm not worried in the least. We run into folks every day who are carrying or have been exposed to all kinds of crap. I'm more likely to get the flu than ebola.
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Post by rebelyelle on Aug 1, 2014 3:55:51 GMT
I'm not worried. It's not an airborne virus, and I'm 1000% the necessary precautions have been taken.
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Post by tracylynn on Aug 1, 2014 3:59:14 GMT
I agree - they are American citizens and have the right to be here and treated. I feel confident that all precautions are being/have been taken here. Hopefully they'll survive.
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Post by psoccer on Aug 1, 2014 4:16:57 GMT
I am worried, but I worry about everything. I do think it would be a great way for our scientist to work closely with this virus, and to make observations. From my understanding, the conditions in Africa are less than sterile, and some of the people are reluctant to the Western ways of bleach. I do pray that they make it safely to the US.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 4:24:53 GMT
They are citizens and as such have a right to come home for treatment. Keeping them in my thoughts.
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Post by pb on Aug 1, 2014 4:29:24 GMT
I read an article about this, they are going to be transported on a private plane to a hospital (one of four in the USA) set up to handle extreme isolation cases. I think this is the best bet for the two Americans as well as providing an opportunity to study the disease in better conditions than can be provided for in Africa.
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Post by craftchickapowpow on Aug 1, 2014 4:51:43 GMT
we have a superior health system compared to west africa. I'm sure the risks have been considered. they won't be cured, hopefully, they will survive the virus. we know they have the disease. what is scarier is someone who is infected and doesn't know it and comes to the us. an infected person can carry the virus for 3 weeks before they developed symptoms. This is far more worrisome to me than bringing home sick Americans.
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Post by scrapsuzy on Aug 1, 2014 4:53:43 GMT
They are being brought Atlanta, where the CDC is, and where they will get excellent care at Emory University. I have no problem with this, but you would not believe the number of FB comments I have seen today saying ignorant things like "Well, guess which hospital I won't be going to?"
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Post by anniebygaslight on Aug 1, 2014 5:59:35 GMT
Apparently in the UK we have an extreme barrier nursing facility at the ready to deal with anyone who comes into the country with the illness, and aircrew are now trained to recognise and isolate anyone showing symptoms on the flights from the affected countries.
It is a really difficult one re bringing affected people home and thereby putting other lives at risk.
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Post by lucyg on Aug 1, 2014 6:03:16 GMT
They are being brought Atlanta, where the CDC is, and where they will get excellent care at Emory University. I have no problem with this, but you would not believe the number of FB comments I have seen today saying ignorant things like "Well, guess which hospital I won't be going to?" That kind of fear reminds me of the early days of AIDS ... irrational fears not based on the disease's reality. I am not very familiar with this current Ebola outbreak, but unless it has massively mutated, Ebola is not very easily transmitted from person to person. I would not be afraid of two infected Americans coming home for treatment under the supervision of the CDC. ETA and now I am a chatterbox!
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Post by anniefb on Aug 1, 2014 6:07:15 GMT
I saw that reported today. Here in New Zealand we don't have any suitable facilities for dealing with Ebola. There is no way they could actually isolate the virus. I think the risk of it getting here is pretty low. Sure hope so!
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Post by peabay on Aug 1, 2014 11:22:51 GMT
This has been done many times for many other US citizens. Why not now? It's not airborne; we have experimental meds here to treat Ebola; and they are being flown here with private funds. The unit in the hospital is used to treating people with dangerously communicable diseases. This isn't anything new. It's just newsworthy because this is the scary disease du jour.
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Post by christine58 on Aug 1, 2014 11:31:10 GMT
I'm not worried. It's not an airborne virus, and I'm 1000% the necessary precautions have been taken. Completely agree.
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Post by craftykitten on Aug 1, 2014 12:33:13 GMT
Apparently in the UK we have an extreme barrier nursing facility at the ready to deal with anyone who comes into the country with the illness, and aircrew are now trained to recognise and isolate anyone showing symptoms on the flights from the affected countries. It is a really difficult one re bringing affected people home and thereby putting other lives at risk. I don't often disagree with you Annie, but in this case I don't see it as a difficult issue at all. We have the facilities, it's not an airborne disease, and if they are British then I do think they have a right to come home. The idea that we would 'abandon' people who have gone out there to help fight this disease is horrific. They knew the risks, that doesn't mean we shouldn't help them.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Aug 1, 2014 12:36:58 GMT
I'm a worrywart but over this, nah! Not so much. I will pray that they recover, though, because that us one awful disease.
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Post by brina on Aug 1, 2014 12:43:16 GMT
They are going into an isolation tank, basically, in a hospital geared to handle it and under the CDC's watch. I'm not worried in the least. We run into folks every day who are carrying or have been exposed to all kinds of crap. I'm more likely to get the flu than ebola. this - if there is a chance this disease is going to be cured it is going to come from the US, France, Switzerland, Great Britain, etc - A country with an good health care system and the facilities to do the R&D. I am not getting into a debate about the US healthcare system vs any other country, purely the chance of a cure being found in a first world country versus in Africa.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 12:48:53 GMT
It's not like they're on a commercial flight with other passengers. Everyone who came in contact with them no doubt had protective clothing/gloves/etc. I'm more concerned that someone would come into the country, not knowing they were infected. The incubation period is 21 days, so it would be a few weeks before they might show symptoms. And sometimes the symptoms are mistaken for malaria.
Knowing these people have already contracted Ebola makes it easier to contain, IMO.
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Post by moveablefeast on Aug 1, 2014 13:04:59 GMT
The two healthcare workers in te isolation pod - not worried.
The guy who became severely ill on a plane to Nigeria whilst en route to Minnesota - this is a very real hazard.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 1, 2014 13:10:34 GMT
This has been done many times for many other US citizens. Why not now? It's not airborne; we have experimental meds here to treat Ebola; and they are being flown here with private funds. The unit in the hospital is used to treating people with dangerously communicable diseases. This isn't anything new. It's just newsworthy because this is the scary disease du jour. I agree. I think it's their best chance of survival. And the risk to the public as a whole is so miniscule that I think it is worth taking.
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Post by caro on Aug 1, 2014 13:11:58 GMT
I am sorry for the two infected people. They will get the best care possible at Emory and CDC. Maybe because of them being here we can get a better handle on curing the disease.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 1, 2014 15:50:14 GMT
They are being brought Atlanta, where the CDC is, and where they will get excellent care at Emory University. I have no problem with this, but you would not believe the number of FB comments I have seen today saying ignorant things like "Well, guess which hospital I won't be going to?" That kind of fear reminds me of the early days of AIDS ... irrational fears not based on the disease's reality. I am not very familiar with this current Ebola outbreak, but unless it has massively mutated, Ebola is not very easily transmitted from person to person. I would not be afraid of two infected Americans coming home for treatment under the supervision of the CDC. ETA and now I am a chatterbox! Concern is probably overstating my thoughts - but I did note that several of the more recent infections including the doctor from Sierra Leone were people extremely familiar with the virus and used to taking precautions. Obviously being in a region with an epidemic makes them much higher risk. I am quite sure the medical staff will take precautions well beyond what can be done in Liberia. I am more concerned that the virus HAS mutated and the health workers in Africa are in greater risk as they don't have the facilities available in Atlanta.
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Post by farmdpea on Aug 1, 2014 16:02:19 GMT
At this point, I'm much more concerned about people choosing not to vaccinate their children and undocumented immigrants carrying unknown/undiagnosed infectious diseases.
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Post by peanuttle on Aug 1, 2014 16:05:13 GMT
OP, I agree with you. It is very unfortunate that they contracted Ebola, but bringing them back to the US and risking an outbreak here, is crazy.
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Post by MizIndependent on Aug 1, 2014 16:11:57 GMT
Let's see...we have a southern border that is being flooded with people who are likewise being disbursed throughout the US, and an uncontrolled Ebola epidemic in Africa. This is a disease that is spread "human to human via direct or indirect contact with blood and body fluids," (per WHO). "The incubation period, that is, the time interval from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms, is 2 to 21 days," (according to WHO). A person could be walking around infected and contagious up to THREE WEEKS and not know it."Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness," (again, according to WHO). The time it takes for these situations to collide could be timed with an egg timer.
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Post by MizIndependent on Aug 1, 2014 16:30:10 GMT
BTW: WashingtonPost.com: African leaders to convene in D.C. for summit focused on economic potential"Nearly 50 African heads of state and government will gather next week for an unprecedented meeting in Washington that has high hopes of reframing the continent’s image, from one defined by conflict and disease to one of a region ripe with economic promise." What are the odds that some of these people could have been exposed? Three weeks is a helluva long time...and presumably these 50 people will be coming from all over Africa. It is likely that some will be coming from the infected areas <----admittedly, I am speculating here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 16:46:52 GMT
So what should we do? Lock our own citizens out of their country? Not let anyone who has been in an affected area in the US ever? I just don't know what people expect the country to do.
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Post by papersilly on Aug 1, 2014 16:50:43 GMT
i sense the alarmists circling around this story already. they are going to make a lot of people uneasy. some guys on the talk radio this morning were already saying this is like the opening story to an outbreak film. they said one small error and we have a disaster on our hands.
i think it will be fine to treat them in the US. if i was the patient, i would be happy to be coming back home so my family could be near me and there are teams of very highly skilled doctors on hand to treat me.
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