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Post by scrapaddict702 on May 23, 2016 0:23:16 GMT
I have 3 kids. Nothing about me really changed when I had my first, but when I became pregnant with my second there was a drastic change in me that hasn't gone away. It isn't near as bad as it was when I was pregnant with him, but it's still there.
Before kids and even after kid 1, I've always had a high drive. On a scale of 1-10, probably a 7.5 to an 8. When I conceived my second child, my husband couldn't even breathe on me while sleeping next to me in bed without me needing to create distance between us. Kissing, hand holding...it just all went out the window. I had no desire at all for physical contact whatsoever (the worst part was and still is the fact that I have an emotional need for the fulfillment that physical contact provides but I couldn't handle it and would just need to get out of the situation as quickly as possible). It eased up after my son was born but it never went back to normal. With my third, it wasn't as bad during that pregnancy, but it was worse than before and since she's been born, it has hit a strange ebb and flow type cycle. I'll go weeks without wanting physical contact and then suddenly get hit with my old drive and that, too, will last weeks only to disappear and go back to not wanting anything seemingly overnight. It's feast or famine and I'm at the mercy of my brain, it seems. To say it's a struggle to navigate in my own mind is an understatement, so you can imagine what it's like for my husband who has done everything he can to be supportive...but no matter how much I try and communicate it, I just don't think he'll ever be able to really get it. It's hard to explain something to someone that I don't even understand. When I try to offer solutions for the way I'm feeling in that moment, it never fails that within a few days, I feel the exact opposite I felt before and there is a whole new set of rules.
I'm presuming that I am suffering from a hormonal imbalance of some type since it all seemed to start during pregnancy when so much of the invisible changes, but I have no clue where to look for information that can help me prepare for an appointment with a physician. I have some other issues going on that I more or less have an idea of what they are (just uncertain if the two are related or not), but being the type of person that wants to at least have an idea of what to expect before I walk in the door (I hate surprises and my other issues surround anxiety...I know that if I went in for labs having no clue or being warned of a multitude of potential problems, I would become anxious and struggle to deal with the wait for a call or follow up about it), I would love to be able to do some research to see if anything out there seems to tick most of my boxes. I also don't have a primary physician, so my first call will be to my OB...here's hoping that she can help steer me in the direction of getting proper treatment and facilitate lab work.
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Post by Really Red on May 23, 2016 0:31:51 GMT
PLEASE see your OB. I'm no doctor, but these things sound normalish to me. I mean not normal, but not so far out of the realm of normal that an OB wouldn't know where to send you.
Please do this tomorrow. Call up and make the appointment. YOu know you'll get labs, so you'll know you'll be anxious. It SUCKS, but it sucks worse how you're living now. Keep balancing that against your anxiety. The quicker you do this, the quicker you'll have solutions in front of you.
You can do it!!!
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on May 23, 2016 1:23:57 GMT
Are you kids still little? Are you home with them all day/part of the day?
I can relate somewhat. My issue was that I was 100% sleep deprived and my kids, especially the youngest is very needy and I give, give, give. I was mentally and physically drained by the time my dh got home at 8:00 at night. The last thing I would even want was a hug or sometimes to even hold a conversation.
I have made some changes in my life and the kids are a little older now. It is hard going thru pregnancies and taking care of children. Anxiety and in my case chronic physical pain just zaps you of everything else that is left over. It's hard to find balance each and every day.
I hope you are able to discuss this with your dr and get some answers. Good Luck!
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Post by scrapaddict702 on May 23, 2016 1:49:59 GMT
Are you kids still little? Are you home with them all day/part of the day? I can relate somewhat. My issue was that I was 100% sleep deprived and my kids, especially the youngest is very needy and I give, give, give. I was mentally and physically drained by the time my dh got home at 8:00 at night. The last thing I would even want was a hug or sometimes to even hold a conversation. I have made some changes in my life and the kids are a little older now. It is hard going thru pregnancies and taking care of children. Anxiety and in my case chronic physical pain just zaps you of everything else that is left over. It's hard to find balance each and every day. I hope you are able to discuss this with your dr and get some answers. Good Luck! Yes. My kids are 5 and under. I am a stay at home mom, but I don't think the issues I need feedback on relate to them (my anxiety issues, definitely). I find myself just coasting through the day just to get through because I can't get any time for myself...it's either that or I constantly yell and scream because I'm overwhelmed. I know my anxiety is triggered by their behavior (which makes being at home rough, but financially it is all that makes sense for us right now) and I'm hoping for an anti anxiety medication to help with that...I think this is the biggest issue in our family dynamic right now because I can sometimes handle everything without any problems at all and other times, the smallest issue results in the biggest overreaction on my part (it all depends on how badly my anxiety is that day and I never know until something goes wrong to cause a reaction). As far as my drive being so out of the norm, it is not related to my kids. It is like when I go to bed at night, my brain flips a switch when it wants to and I go from one extreme to another the next day when I wake up. I have literally no control over it. I can mentally want a hug or a kiss or even just snuggling in bed before we fall asleep at night and if I'm so much as touched, I want to be as far away as I possibly can when I'm in the famine stage. My response is as involuntary as breathing and blinking. The feast stage is just as bad because of communication issues between my husband and I. It's hard to connect (or even communicate effectively) when neither of us has any idea what version of me we're going to be facing on any given day. Both are huge issues because they impact almost every facet of my life, but my drive being so out of whack is one that I really don't know what to expect in regards to resolution. I don't think my panic attacks and anxiety problems can be dealt with through lab work...I'm pretty sure that I'll just need to explain everything to someone and be able to figure out a treatment. Ideally, I will have a daily medication with a back up when I'm having a really bad day that the daily dose doesn't work for (I am not familiar with medications, but I hope there is something that builds up in your system much like anti-depressants do). I just have no clue what to expect in terms of if this other problems is hormonal. For all I know, it could be diet related or something that another medication will help with or something I just have to learn to live with because it's considered perfectly normal with age or a symptom of something else altogether.
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Post by Peamac on May 23, 2016 2:07:01 GMT
I'd ask melissa what she thinks, since she's an OB/GYN. Hope you get answers soon!
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Post by melissa on May 23, 2016 3:41:25 GMT
Frankly, it is unrealistic for a mom of 3 kids to have the same sex drive she had with no kids. From what is written here, your loss of libido is more related to everything else in your life including the other psychological/psychiatric issues (anxiety, possible depression which can manifest in other ways).
Obviously, it is impossible to diagnose online. Your gyn will run some bloodwork and do a basic physical exam to make sure there are no other issues. My suspicion is that those will be normal or close to it. But, they need to be done. I firmly believe that once everything in your life improves- your mental state, sufficient sleep, etc- your libido will return.
Please also understand that the ebb and flow of ones libido is a natural part of life. I swear I had years (months?) when I had minimal interest. Lack of sleep and stress just are not conducive. Why would one want to spend the energy on sex when all you really need is sleep? This is SOOO common in women with young ones at home whether they are SAHM or not.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on May 23, 2016 4:31:04 GMT
Frankly, it is unrealistic for a mom of 3 kids to have the same sex drive she had with no kids. From what is written here, your loss of libido is more related to everything else in your life including the other psychological/psychiatric issues (anxiety, possible depression which can manifest in other ways). Obviously, it is impossible to diagnose online. Your gyn will run some bloodwork and do a basic physical exam to make sure there are no other issues. My suspicion is that those will be normal or close to it. But, they need to be done. I firmly believe that once everything in your life improves- your mental state, sufficient sleep, etc- your libido will return. Please also understand that the ebb and flow of ones libido is a natural part of life. I swear I had years (months?) when I had minimal interest. Lack of sleep and stress just are not conducive. Why would one want to spend the energy on sex when all you really need is sleep? This is SOOO common in women with young ones at home whether they are SAHM or not. Well that's good to know that it's not uncommon. One thing I do not lack in my life, however, is sleep. My husband feeds our kids before he goes to work in the morning and plays with them later into the morning on the weekends so I can sleep (he has always been one to function on under 6 hours of sleep and while that was normal even before kids, his working 2 jobs for almost 7 years and rapidly approaching 40 is definitely changing that). I dare not even dream what I would be like if I was constantly sleep deprived considering what my anxiety does to me! I am happy to know that it sounds like the appointment would be what I had been anticipating (I'm the type to avoid something out of fear for the worst possible outcome). It's just strange to me how this seemed to manifest itself overnight in my second pregnancy and how it's more than just my libido, it's any physical contact at all (when I mentioned it during my second pregnancy elsewhere, I had people telling me that it was a psychological manifestation that I hated my husband which is not at all the case). Change in drive I fully expected, but the circumstances and severity are what left me questioning the normalcy of it all. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if my anxiety (and worry about how my attacks impact those around me) played a huge role in it. I also wouldn't be surprised if I met the criteria for depression and while it hasn't been something I have thought much about overall, it has been a thought in the past several weeks when I compare my rare good days (days where I feel like the me I want to be all the time) to the rest of the time. The only way I can explain everything to my husband and those around me who can't see what I'm dealing with is that it feels like my wires are all crossed. I appreciate your time and feedback...I wasn't trying to impose on a professional's free time so I hope you don't feel bothered!! It's just nice to not feel alone and to see others conquer issues that I'm in the thick of. What better place than a community where there are so many other women present?
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Post by beaglemom on May 23, 2016 4:58:11 GMT
Yes. My kids are 5 and under. I am a stay at home mom, but I don't think the issues I need feedback on relate to them (my anxiety issues, definitely). I find myself just coasting through the day just to get through because I can't get any time for myself...it's either that or I constantly yell and scream because I'm overwhelmed. I know my anxiety is triggered by their behavior (which makes being at home rough, but financially it is all that makes sense for us right now) and I'm hoping for an anti anxiety medication to help with that...I think this is the biggest issue in our family dynamic right now because I can sometimes handle everything without any problems at all and other times, the smallest issue results in the biggest overreaction on my part (it all depends on how badly my anxiety is that day and I never know until something goes wrong to cause a reaction). As far as my drive being so out of the norm, it is not related to my kids. It is like when I go to bed at night, my brain flips a switch when it wants to and I go from one extreme to another the next day when I wake up. I have literally no control over it. I can mentally want a hug or a kiss or even just snuggling in bed before we fall asleep at night and if I'm so much as touched, I want to be as far away as I possibly can when I'm in the famine stage. My response is as involuntary as breathing and blinking. The feast stage is just as bad because of communication issues between my husband and I. It's hard to connect (or even communicate effectively) when neither of us has any idea what version of me we're going to be facing on any given day. Both are huge issues because they impact almost every facet of my life, but my drive being so out of whack is one that I really don't know what to expect in regards to resolution. I don't think my panic attacks and anxiety problems can be dealt with through lab work...I'm pretty sure that I'll just need to explain everything to someone and be able to figure out a treatment. Ideally, I will have a daily medication with a back up when I'm having a really bad day that the daily dose doesn't work for (I am not familiar with medications, but I hope there is something that builds up in your system much like anti-depressants do). I just have no clue what to expect in terms of if this other problems is hormonal. For all I know, it could be diet related or something that another medication will help with or something I just have to learn to live with because it's considered perfectly normal with age or a symptom of something else altogether. I could have written your first paragraph word for word, all of it. The sometimes not having issues and then other days the drop of a hat makes me want to scream. I am so glad to know I am not alone!! My first two pregnancies I had no interest in being intimate during pregnancy. The smell of my husband made me want to hurl. The third pregnancy I was much more interested (more than I had been even before the pregnancy oddly enough). I am 8 weeks postpartum. Kids are 5, 3, and 8 weeks. I should probably be more interested in fixing the drive issues, but honestly my flip-floppy responses to the kid's behavior is what freaks me out the most. I hate yelling at them and I hate that some times it makes me feel better. I am doing exactly what my mom did that made me feel horrible as kid and I don't want my kids growing up feeling that way. I'll be following! If you find anything that helps please share!
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Post by scrapaddict702 on May 23, 2016 5:32:43 GMT
Yes. My kids are 5 and under. I am a stay at home mom, but I don't think the issues I need feedback on relate to them (my anxiety issues, definitely). I find myself just coasting through the day just to get through because I can't get any time for myself...it's either that or I constantly yell and scream because I'm overwhelmed. I know my anxiety is triggered by their behavior (which makes being at home rough, but financially it is all that makes sense for us right now) and I'm hoping for an anti anxiety medication to help with that...I think this is the biggest issue in our family dynamic right now because I can sometimes handle everything without any problems at all and other times, the smallest issue results in the biggest overreaction on my part (it all depends on how badly my anxiety is that day and I never know until something goes wrong to cause a reaction). As far as my drive being so out of the norm, it is not related to my kids. It is like when I go to bed at night, my brain flips a switch when it wants to and I go from one extreme to another the next day when I wake up. I have literally no control over it. I can mentally want a hug or a kiss or even just snuggling in bed before we fall asleep at night and if I'm so much as touched, I want to be as far away as I possibly can when I'm in the famine stage. My response is as involuntary as breathing and blinking. The feast stage is just as bad because of communication issues between my husband and I. It's hard to connect (or even communicate effectively) when neither of us has any idea what version of me we're going to be facing on any given day. Both are huge issues because they impact almost every facet of my life, but my drive being so out of whack is one that I really don't know what to expect in regards to resolution. I don't think my panic attacks and anxiety problems can be dealt with through lab work...I'm pretty sure that I'll just need to explain everything to someone and be able to figure out a treatment. Ideally, I will have a daily medication with a back up when I'm having a really bad day that the daily dose doesn't work for (I am not familiar with medications, but I hope there is something that builds up in your system much like anti-depressants do). I just have no clue what to expect in terms of if this other problems is hormonal. For all I know, it could be diet related or something that another medication will help with or something I just have to learn to live with because it's considered perfectly normal with age or a symptom of something else altogether. I could have written your first paragraph word for word, all of it. The sometimes not having issues and then other days the drop of a hat makes me want to scream. I am so glad to know I am not alone!! My first two pregnancies I had no interest in being intimate during pregnancy. The smell of my husband made me want to hurl. The third pregnancy I was much more interested (more than I had been even before the pregnancy oddly enough). I am 8 weeks postpartum. Kids are 5, 3, and 8 weeks. I should probably be more interested in fixing the drive issues, but honestly my flip-floppy responses to the kid's behavior is what freaks me out the most. I hate yelling at them and I hate that some times it makes me feel better. I am doing exactly what my mom did that made me feel horrible as kid and I don't want my kids growing up feeling that way. I'll be following! If you find anything that helps please share! My dad passed away just about 2 years ago and he was like I am now. I can't tell you how badly I wish I could have a conversation with him and tell him that I get it now. I bet with all of the issues he had recorded with various doctors regarding ADHD, an anxiety disorder was never one he had ever considered, let alone attempted to treat. He snapped over things that I just didn't understand, but being a parent now and responding exactly how he used to tells me that I probably got my issues from him, in practice and genetics. My daughter was really hard on me. I'm honestly shocked I didn't have a nervous breakdown last year with her. She wouldn't take a bottle and she wouldn't take baby food until she was almost 9 months old...I was her only source of food, for nearly 40 weeks. If I left the house for a few hours, I would come back to her screaming her head off EVERY SINGLE TIME and find out she had been screaming since almost the moment I left the house. My husband wouldn't call me to come home and would ALWAYS have a huge smile on his face when I got home as if nothing at all was wrong because he knew I needed to be out to unwind...he would rather cradle her while she refused a bottle and screamed loud enough to be heard 2 houses down than call me during the few precious hours I was able to get to myself. It was THAT bad. I could almost hear the angels singing from the heavens the day I decided to see if she would suck through a straw and she did on the first try! Screaming is a fight response. It makes me feel better, but it's definitely not good for the kids. I can see what it's done to my oldest when I raise my voice to a certain level. My alternative is obviously flight...and when I feel the way I feel, I usually do want to run from the house screaming. Since I can't, I lay my head down on my desk and blast the loudest music I have on my computer at full volume (I have blown a set of speakers doing this) so I can't hear the things triggering my panic attack and after about 2-3 songs, I usually feel better. The other thing that makes me feel better is shopping...and my scrap room is running out of space. Even though this isn't as bad as the other two options, it still has a negative impact. These are unhealthy coping mechanisms that have done nothing but help me survive. My husband is struggling because he thinks that if he keeps his mouth shut and does everything I ask that I will suddenly feel better and be okay. He doesn't understand that he can't fix what I'm going through. I'm excited to see if medication will help me, but I'm also terrified that medication won't work and I'll feel broken for the rest of my life. I was looking forward to not nursing anymore so I could try medication, but fear of nothing working kept me from calling my doctor the day I stopped. I'm finally to the point where enough is enough...I can't put my family through this anymore and I'm worth more than to wake up hoping that I don't let them down every day. I need to at least try something. Time away from my kids is harder to come by, but if medicine doesn't help, I'm also seeking out expos and crops away from my kids to help. I haven't spent more than 24 hours away from my kids unless it was to bring a new sibling into the world. I hope you consider putting in a call to your OB and discuss how you feel with him/her. I wish I hadn't waited so long to do something. I hope that I'll be able to get an appointment to see mine sometime this week so I can finally see a light at the end of this dark tunnel.
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Post by beaglemom on May 23, 2016 5:59:49 GMT
The other thing that makes me feel better is shopping...and my scrap room is running out of space. Even though this isn't as bad as the other two options, it still has a negative impact. This...scrap stuff and fabric. I haven't done any scrapping in years...but I have a whole room full of stuff. And chocolate. Which doesn't help either. Thank you for the encouragement to see someone. I sent my ob a message. It's nice to know I'm not the only one!
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