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Post by jameynz on May 23, 2016 10:27:07 GMT
So today, I spoke to my branch manager and advised that I had not put my notice in writing for him, that I actually wanted to retract it. I wanted to stay, overall I do enjoy my job, but was feeling too overwhelmed, and felt that I was not keeping clients happy or doing a good job in my new role. I said that ultimately, I wanted my old job/role back, but understood it may not be possible, that I would like to stay regardless - even in my new job and make a go of it. I also said that I would understand if he said that no, my verbal notice stood, he would not retract it.
Short story - I've kept my job, I'm still gainfully employed.
(to be fair, he originally created my original role in the office for me when he heard that I was leaving my old office - my experience in the field we are in, and the fact that I had worked with other people in the office previously who recommended me went a long way.)
Thank you to all peas - I do understand why people said what they did - I can see both sides of the arguement - keeping me, letting me go etc....I also know I am very lucky to keep my job.
Original Post: ...and now I regret it!
The last 12 months at work has been especially hard - my direct manager left, new manager came in - I helped her as much as I could. Another staff member left, the 2 of us had to pick up the slack - new manager, Christmas time, things were particularly busy. I picked up the role for the staff member who just left - more responsibility, pay increase, company car, iphone, more hours New staff member started in January - for my old role/job I did my new job, trained the new staff member in my old job, still helping new manager, learning the ropes on my job, longest serving staff member there - everyone asking for me cos I was the familiar...I knew the history etc
I hate my new job - cannot please anybody (including new manager), lost us business cos I was doing it right (previously things were not done properly and this was causing us problems - both legal and financial) New staff member hates her job - and handed in her notice last week I went to my branch manager - told him I wanted my job back, and understood if he didn't give it to me, but if he didn't then I don't know how much longer I could continue doing my new role He didn't take me seriously
Today, a complaint came in about me - I was unable to take a phone call from a client (I was driving in the pouring rain on the motorway and felt I could not give the client my full concentration whilst driving, so let it go to ansafone)
Branch manager called me into his office after I drafted an email to the client, asked me what the issue was. I told him - I also told him that I didn't think he took me seriously last week, I wanted my old job back, he was interviewing - so I told him I was done. That's it - I quit - my notice would be on his desk tomorrow morning.
(He then had the balls to ask me what my husband thought of me leaving!)
Now, I regret it - on the whole, I do enjoy my job, would love to have my old role back - but understand that it may not happen.
I want to give it my best shot - everyone else in the office feels I deserve the job, am doing a good job and can see where I am correcting all the past mistakes and issues BUT I am feeling just a tad overwhelmed!
I am going to look stupid when I go into work tomorrow to ask if I can withdraw my verbal notice - but now, the branch manager may take my concerns seriously!
wish me luck (I think)
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Post by christine58 on May 23, 2016 10:30:28 GMT
Don't be surprised if he tells you no....good luck. I'd be searching today for a new job
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Post by MDscrapaholic on May 23, 2016 10:31:46 GMT
Good luck. Hope the branch manager realizes how valuable you are!
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Post by brandy327 on May 23, 2016 10:41:10 GMT
EEEK. Good luck and I hope he lets your rescind your verbal notice.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on May 23, 2016 10:55:07 GMT
It sounds like your work has been chaotic over this last year with staff changes and the resulting differences in the way work gets done. While the threat to quit may not have been the best way to handle it, perhaps it will serve as a wake-up call for your branch manager. My advice would be that as you talk to him, avoid making it about "you." Don't focus on how it has affected you, but instead focus on the business. Point out to him what the impact is on the business especially in regards to now doing the job properly. If you can show him how you can fit into the big picture to best benefit the business, then you may win yourself some room to negotiate with him.
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Post by Really Red on May 23, 2016 11:11:35 GMT
HI Branch Manager, I'm sure you saw how frustrated I was when I talked to you yesterday. The additional work and responsibilities are more than I expected. Understandably people are angry because, as manager, I need to work within our rules and regulations. Of course complaints are going to come in about that and I appreciate that you understand I cannot put my life at risk to answer a phone call in poor driving conditions. However, I would like to make sure that we have the same expectations.
Then lay out your expectations, many of which revolve around him supporting you. If you want your old job back seriously, act exactly like an adult would and lay out the reasons for that.
Good luck.
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Post by baslp on May 23, 2016 11:12:43 GMT
Please let us know how this turns out.
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Post by ellen on May 23, 2016 11:21:58 GMT
At my workplace, I'd have to turn in a written notice. Talk to your manager. Perhaps you can get your prior position or some guidance on your new one. A high turnover rate is not good for an office and I'd think it would be easier to make things work with you rather than replace you, but I don't know your boss. I've had some who would want to improve things and others who really don't care how things are working out for me. Good luck.
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Post by luckyexwife on May 23, 2016 13:00:19 GMT
HI Branch Manager, I'm sure you saw how frustrated I was when I talked to you yesterday. The additional work and responsibilities are more than I expected. Understandably people are angry because, as manager, I need to work within our rules and regulations. Of course complaints are going to come in about that and I appreciate that you understand I cannot put my life at risk to answer a phone call in poor driving conditions. However, I would like to make sure that we have the same expectations. Then lay out your expectations, many of which revolve around him supporting you. If you want your old job back seriously, act exactly like an adult would and lay out the reasons for that. Good luck. Something like this is eat I was thinking as well. Lay out the expectations and discuss them. Good luck!
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Post by mlynn on May 23, 2016 16:16:09 GMT
Bring in an application for your prior position?
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Post by kelly8875 on May 23, 2016 16:44:30 GMT
If I was your boss, I wouldn't hire you back. You quit. How does he know you won't do it next week again?
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Post by Lexica on May 23, 2016 16:50:20 GMT
Go back in and tell him your husband said you can't quit.
TOTALLY joking on that. I can't believe he would say that to you. I don't know if I would want that job if my manager thought so little of me as to suggest I needed permission from my husband.
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Post by seikashaven on May 23, 2016 17:33:00 GMT
I would not ask for your job back. And as a manager I wouldn't hire you back either. I'm sorry you regret your decision.
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Post by Rhondito on May 23, 2016 17:38:42 GMT
Go back in and tell him your husband said you can't quit. TOTALLY joking on that. I can't believe he would say that to you. I don't know if I would want that job if my manager thought so little of me as to suggest I needed permission from my husband. But you know that's totally what he's going to think, regardless of what she says.
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Post by papersilly on May 23, 2016 17:44:10 GMT
I have a friend who quit her job 6 months ago and regrets it more and more each day. she worked for a major insurance company who paid her well and who gave employees tons of sick leave, vacation, not to mention very liberal FMLA and other chances not to show up to work. you basically have to kill a customer before they will ever fire you. it's a long story but she quit on the spur of the moment and has regretted it since. the job market is tougher than she thought and although she has tried to reach out to her managers, no cigar. she can't come back.
I really hope you are able to get your resignation back. hope you come back and give us an update.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 18:05:32 GMT
It's a tough job market and there are some employers who have a no rehire policy which could include a no rescind on giving notice (no matter the reason why). Some believe once you get to that point of unhappiness OR you start looking elsewhere that it is not beneficial to keep you.
Honestly I would try to look elsewhere, because even if they let you stay, it will always be in the way.
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Post by Freefallfast on May 23, 2016 23:06:45 GMT
Any updates?
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Post by k8smom on May 23, 2016 23:16:21 GMT
I have been tempted to do that so many times in the last 18 years but saner heads prevailed. I feel for you! I think sometimes in life though that you just have to take a leap of faith and trust that things will work out exactly as they should. Who knows, your boss could have a change of mind and give you your old job back with all the perks! Hang in there!
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Post by mlynn on May 24, 2016 0:34:09 GMT
You could always go in as usual and if he says something, say "Oh...you took me seriously?" with a quizzical look on your face.
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Post by Lexica on May 24, 2016 12:14:10 GMT
I'm happy that you were able to talk with your manager and keep your job. May I ask which job it is that you will be keeping, your new position or the old one you wanted back again?
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Post by tduby1 on May 24, 2016 13:02:17 GMT
I am glad it worked out and glad you posted an update. I was hoping to see a positive one.
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Post by gailoh on May 24, 2016 13:09:11 GMT
I am happy for you and glad you are still able to work there.
My son worked for a company several years and they let go several in different departments...outsourcing is the in thing...he liked working for them...they did give them a great package and is thankful for that.
He goes in today for am interview so I am hoping he gets the job,a bit different then his job before in the I.T. department but he thinks he will be able to expand and he is a fast learner.
Hope all goes well and they can help you so you are not so overwhelmed...hugs
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Post by jameynz on May 24, 2016 19:20:11 GMT
I'm happy that you were able to talk with your manager and keep your job. May I ask which job it is that you will be keeping, your new position or the old one you wanted back again? My new role....
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Post by ExpatBackHome on May 24, 2016 19:55:37 GMT
That's great news! So glad it worked out
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Post by anniefb on May 24, 2016 20:06:42 GMT
Glad it worked out for you!
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Post by flute4peace on May 24, 2016 21:07:19 GMT
I'm glad you got your position back - however I suggest you request an updated job description so that you and management are clear on what you are and are not responsible for, including upholding policies that weren't enforced by the prior employee. Lay it all out. "In the past, policy #28 was not enforced. My concern is that failure to do so may have legal ramifications for our company. How would you like me to handle policy #28 in the future?" And then get it all in writing with proof of management agreement, and keep a copy off-site.
Document everything - even/especially the bonehead remarks made by the branch manager. Keep that off-site as well. Protect yourself.
The deal-breaker for me would be the reprimand for not taking a call WHILE DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY IN THE POURING RAIN. Is that even legal for them to require it? The issue should not have been you feeling like you couldn't give appropriate attention to the client while driving. The issue is that you couldn't give appropriate attention to DRIVING SAFELY while talking on the phone.
I hope that with the safeguards in place it will improve conditions and you'll be able to get back to enjoying your job!
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Post by 950nancy on May 24, 2016 23:40:30 GMT
I'm glad you got your position back - however I suggest you request an updated job description so that you and management are clear on what you are and are not responsible for, including upholding policies that weren't enforced by the prior employee. Lay it all out. "In the past, policy #28 was not enforced. My concern is that failure to do so may have legal ramifications for our company. How would you like me to handle policy #28 in the future?" And then get it all in writing with proof of management agreement, and keep a copy off-site.
Document everything - even/especially the bonehead remarks made by the branch manager. Keep that off-site as well. Protect yourself.
The deal-breaker for me would be the reprimand for not taking a call WHILE DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY IN THE POURING RAIN. Is that even legal for them to require it? The issue should not have been you feeling like you couldn't give appropriate attention to the client while driving. The issue is that you couldn't give appropriate attention to DRIVING SAFELY while talking on the phone.
I hope that with the safeguards in place it will improve conditions and you'll be able to get back to enjoying your job! My boss is a VP and he refuses to take calls when driving. He says he often has his twins in his car and it just isn't safe. He's a complete go getter when he isn't be hind the wheel and I think no one should be expected to take calls while driving.
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Post by scrapperal on May 25, 2016 0:20:43 GMT
OP: Glad you still have a job and hope things improve for you. My boss is a VP and he refuses to take calls when driving. He says he often has his twins in his car and it just isn't safe. He's a complete go getter when he isn't be hind the wheel and I think no one should be expected to take calls while driving. I wish more people would follow your boss' example!
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Post by worrywart on May 25, 2016 2:51:53 GMT
I'm glad it worked out!
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Post by jameynz on May 25, 2016 9:05:56 GMT
I would like to be clear on me not taking the phone call...
When we are in the car driving, phones are diverted to bluetooth, which means when it rings, we press a button to talk while our hands are still on the steering wheel - we do not physically pick up the phone and hold it to our ear. My phone can usually be in the back seat with my handbag/folder, and I am still able to make/take phone calls.
I was not comfortable taking the call whilst driving in the rain on the motorway - my branch manager totally understood this, and was ok with it, especially as he knows I do try to return all calls when back in the office or am able to while out and about.
Thank you to all peas for your well wishes and understanding - I know I can get help, honesty and support from you all! Even when I may not want to hear it.
And yes (last note) I will be clarifying a few things in my job role!
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