LeaP
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Post by LeaP on May 27, 2016 17:04:13 GMT
I am returning to the work force after "donkey years" at home with the kids. In my years away, I have done mega tons of volunteer work almost all in positions of responsibility.
My friend who has done some work in recruiting says a functional resume is the way to go. I'm of the opinion that I should be open about having a gap in my employment and to list all that I have done in chronological order. The functional resume feels like I am trying to hide something or at best obfuscate the truth. Truly, I am not ashamed of the 15 book fairs, 7 festivals, IRS, DBAs, permits, government red tape, countless events I have coordinated while I was NOT sitting on the couch eating bonbons.
What do you think? Mind you, I won't be highlighting the year of preschool making 10 lbs. of play dough a week.
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Post by theshyone on May 27, 2016 17:29:07 GMT
You aren't hiding anything by highlighting your skill set. Your skills will be what gets you interviewed, your personality what gets you hired.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 17:46:54 GMT
I agree with theshyone and your friend. I would highlight your positives in a functional resume and maybe address the reason(s) you want a specific job/to return to the workforce in your cover letter. Your best bet for a job though is through someone you know -- they will probably already know you have been out of the workforce for a while and hopefully will know of your accomplishments in between.
That said, I would NOT overstate your skills by using things like "domestic engineer" or "fundraising guru" for what you have done. Use words like coordinated,organized, mangaged, oversaw, tracked...events/projects, etc. Interacted with community leaders, business leaders, county officials to complete required documentation, etc. Raised $x through events and projects. If you can show a progression of how you started as a volunteer, to committee leader to event coordinator, that might show some leadership ability over that time frame.
Can you get at least one school administration employee (Principal or higher) to put as a recommendation?
just some thoughts.....but part of your perspective should also be aimed at your audience...what type of position are you looking for?
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Post by mari on May 27, 2016 18:01:22 GMT
As a hiring manager, I sometimes feel that people use functional resumes to hide limited job experience or extreme job hopping. All of my interviewed applicants also have to fill out an application (which lists specific employment dates and space to explain job gaps, so I can use that info to screen some people out).
In general, if you have significant job experience, a functional resume makes sense.
I would recommend including a well written cover letter with the resume.
Also, if your volunteer work was done in an official capacity, consider including that on your resume, too.
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LeaP
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Post by LeaP on May 27, 2016 18:21:39 GMT
Thanks for the advice. I will let you know how it turns out. mari what do you mean by official capacity? Much of the my volunteer work has been at school 501(c)(3)s affiliated with LAUSD as a treasurer, secretary, vice president and so on. I work, paid or not. @luvspaper I can definitely get a principal recommendation and my last boss in entertainment is also in Los Angeles so he will give me a recommendation.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 18:24:04 GMT
You should be able to cover both situations (functional and chronological) in a single resume. In today's world, many corporate HR departments use key word searches to eliminate non-desirables before even looking at a resume. After reviewing a resume, the HR rep will talk with a candidate to ensure basic qualifications are met. Once that is done the hiring manager then gets to see the resume and determine if the interview should be taken further.
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Post by mari on May 27, 2016 18:33:20 GMT
mari what do you mean by official capacity? Much of the my volunteer work has been at school 501(c)(3)s affiliated with LAUSD as a treasurer, secretary, vice president and so on. I work, paid or not. I would say long-term volunteer work for a non profit school would definitely count. The titles that you're using (Vice President, treasurer, etc.) should be consistent with the titles used by the school while you were volunteering. I wouldn't include one-time volunteer experiences. I also wouldn't include something like throwing a birthday party for a friend as an official volunteer position, for example (a real example that I just received on a resume - she called herself a volunteer event planner).
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Post by Basket1lady on May 27, 2016 18:43:25 GMT
I'll be watching this thread with a lot of interest. I plan to return to work in about a year after 20+ years as a SAHM. I've done a ton of volunteer work in those 20 years. I'm currently holding the position of what used to be the Booster President for our theatre program at a high school for fine and performing arts. I say used to be because the school district disbanded all booster clubs 2 years ago. So we don't know quite what to call me, but I average about 40 hours a week.
Would this be an "official capacity", Mari? I'd like to use it on a resume, but don't want to look like a fool trying to make up work experience. But it's really quite a job and uses a lot of people skills. Keeping the director on track with the admin side of things (not easy with an artsy sort of person!), working with school officials, other arts specialties, and teens, coordinating 100+ volunteers, and keeping a social media presence on the web. Not to mention dealing with the whole social aspect of transgendered, suicidal, bullied, dramatic teens.
Then there is the years as the football team mom, CCD teacher, room mom... I thought it would be better to highlight the skills from those jobs, rather than the jobs themselves.
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Post by mari on May 27, 2016 19:16:42 GMT
I'll be watching this thread with a lot of interest. I plan to return to work in about a year after 20+ years as a SAHM. I've done a ton of volunteer work in those 20 years. I'm currently holding the position of what used to be the Booster President for our theatre program at a high school for fine and performing arts. I say used to be because the school district disbanded all booster clubs 2 years ago. So we don't know quite what to call me, but I average about 40 hours a week. Would this be an "official capacity", Mari? I'd like to use it on a resume, but don't want to look like a fool trying to make up work experience. But it's really quite a job and uses a lot of people skills. Keeping the director on track with the admin side of things (not easy with an artsy sort of person!), working with school officials, other arts specialties, and teens, coordinating 100+ volunteers, and keeping a social media presence on the web. Not to mention dealing with the whole social aspect of transgendered, suicidal, bullied, dramatic teens. Then there is the years as the football team mom, CCD teacher, room mom... I thought it would be better to highlight the skills from those jobs, rather than the jobs themselves. I would absolutely include a 40-hour/week volunteer position at a school on a resume. If you don't have an official title, I would suggest taking to the principal or volunteer coordinator to ask for one. I also agree with your statement about focusing on the skills for the football mom, etc jobs instead of listing actual positions.
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Post by anonrefugee on May 27, 2016 19:52:47 GMT
I would love to see an example of this kind of resume, anyone know of a site online? I'm still day-dreaming of a field change as I prepare to return to more hours/work more.
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Post by stingfan on May 27, 2016 20:50:32 GMT
I write resumes for a career counselling company. We don't do functional resumes, although I know others do recommend them for some people. In your case, I would have an "Experience" section for your paid work and a "Volunteer Experience" section for your unpaid work. Both sections are done chronologically and include the same sort of header for each position with company/organization, job title, dates, and location.
I would included any position that spanned significant amount of time or that included any sort of important accomplishment. You will want to highlight different achievements depending on what sort of work you'd like to do.
I agree with being upfront about the gap in employment. In the summary section of a resume like yours, I would include a phrase like 'returning to the workforce' in there somewhere. Your situation is not that uncommon and I don't think there's any reason to try to hide the truth.
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Post by boatymcboatface on May 27, 2016 21:03:42 GMT
I hire and my recommendation is to write a hybrid resume that has your experience and education listed alongside your volunteer experience and skills I believe in this day and age going back to work after staying home to raise your kids isn't as much a liability as it used to be. I work with a guy who hires tons of women returning to the workforce because he says he wants to give them a leg up plus they have real life experience with thing he needs them to understand like managing money and schedules and dealing with vendors and all that. One thing I do know you need to make sure you have the keywords on your resume because that's how company hr depts search for candidates.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 21:10:57 GMT
I'll be watching this thread with a lot of interest. I plan to return to work in about a year after 20+ years as a SAHM. I've done a ton of volunteer work in those 20 years. I'm currently holding the position of what used to be the Booster President for our theatre program at a high school for fine and performing arts. I say used to be because the school district disbanded all booster clubs 2 years ago. So we don't know quite what to call me, but I average about 40 hours a week. Would this be an "official capacity", Mari? I'd like to use it on a resume, but don't want to look like a fool trying to make up work experience. But it's really quite a job and uses a lot of people skills. Keeping the director on track with the admin side of things (not easy with an artsy sort of person!), working with school officials, other arts specialties, and teens, coordinating 100+ volunteers, and keeping a social media presence on the web. Not to mention dealing with the whole social aspect of transgendered, suicidal, bullied, dramatic teens. Then there is the years as the football team mom, CCD teacher, room mom... I thought it would be better to highlight the skills from those jobs, rather than the jobs themselves. While I do think you should put it on the resume, is there a person they can contact at the school district that can backup your experience/title? I would not make one up but try to help direct them to someone other than HR (who won't have a clue if the school district disbanded booster clubs). The last thing you want is to claim something (while true) that can't be backed up. So if you say Booster Club President and there is officially no Booster Club, it could look suspicious. I would ask the director/principal about what title to use and make sure others can back it up (like if they call the school and ask if there is a Head Volunteer...). Because honestly title is one of the few things that most employers do give out along with work dates and possibly pay rate, reason for leaving and would they rehire.
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LeaP
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Post by LeaP on May 27, 2016 21:34:30 GMT
Very good information! Thanks a million. I'm relieved that my volunteer stuff is relevant. I found this site with what I think is an excellent example of a hybrid resume and it also will scan your resume and compare it to a posting. Pic below is a from the site. ETA: I mari I love the story about event planning a birthday party. SaveSave
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Post by lisacharlotte on May 28, 2016 3:32:54 GMT
Does any HR department even read resumes anymore? I can't think of any company that doesn't require an online application and resume upload so some shitty software can pick through looking the perfect combination of "key words". Then HR claims there are no candidates that fit the position. Meanwhile, millions are un or under employed.
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Post by scrappychick on May 28, 2016 4:48:36 GMT
When I jumped back into the work force after a 12 year gap in employment, I used a functional resume. I didn't embellish anything, but did include things like my various PTA positions, and the skills that went along with that. Coordinating volunteers and planning events, constructing and managing a budget, running monthly meetings, recruiting members, as well as skills I picked up volunteering in my kids classrooms. Since I was applying for a position in a school, all of my experience counted heavily in my favor. I was candid about my lack of paid employment in my interviews, but I got the job anyways:)
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 6:02:32 GMT
Something to keep in mind, is not all hiring committees are actual HR people. So what an HR person thinks about a resume is moot, at least where I work. Our HR manages the online portal resumes are posted to but they don't filter the resumes in any way. They just are a contact point.
Our hiring committee is made up of first and second level supervisors and anyone they feel should have input into who is accepted into the job. I know the team I've been with the past month is mostly interested in the skill set of the people so a functional resume is the quickest for us to see if an applicant has the skills were are looking for. It has also opened up some discussion on skills we hadn't considered wanting but an applicant has that we can see a way to use that skill.
Once we decided who we wanted then we told HR and they took over from there for the back ground check etc.
A lengthy time out of the work force also isn't looked down as much as women make it out to be UNLESS you are expecting to apply for jobs in the seniority range of where you would be if you hadn't stopped working for 10-20 years. There is a point where years of experience does matter. But there is also lots going on at the entry or near entry level where volunteer experience does replicate the work experience.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 14:01:05 GMT
Does any HR department even read resumes anymore? I can't think of any company that doesn't require an online application and resume upload so some shitty software can pick through looking the perfect combination of "key words". Then HR claims there are no candidates that fit the position. Meanwhile, millions are un or under employed. Yes, our company does, but we are pretty small..... not worth buying software to do it for us. Large companies do generally have the software.
And as for another later point, sometimes HR does originally weed out those that are in no way qualified or have something that throws them out so that the front line manager or hiring committee aren't getting bad resumes that waste their time. You really have to get to know the company if you can.
It truly does depend on the company and their process. No two are exactly the same.
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