momto4kiddos
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Post by momto4kiddos on May 27, 2016 21:00:30 GMT
Embarrassed to admit that we don't budget. I've often wanted to set one up, but just never have. I do keep track of our monthly bills and have probably several years worth logged. But we don't stick to a budget at all.
It started that we married and could barely cover our bills, especially when dh was starting his business. Of course that led to his income fluctuates a great deal so it seemed difficult to "count" on having so much every month to budget. I figured out early on that he had no interest in our finances so in order to keep my sanity, I made sure we always had a safety net stashed away.
For the most part the safety net kept me sane, but I really don't like living with the attitude he has, which is it'll all work out. The financial planner post got me thinking and I know I could work with ours better if I were to have a better grasp on what is needed for the future and what I need to achieve it.
So my question is any thoughts on budgeting on an income that fluctuates? Any good books, sites that are specifically geared towards this?
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raindancer
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Post by raindancer on May 27, 2016 21:06:51 GMT
I would look at Dave ramsey. There is a lot free info online e or use his book total money makeover.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 21:18:09 GMT
I would start with the very basic of necessities that MUST be paid. And I would make sure I had 3-6 months (at least) saved up for a "down" time for at least those. And I would pay ahead (pay lump sum car insurance rather than over time for example) if at all possible so you have a cushion for the bad times.
Then I would prioritize other things and put away as much as I could each time we got any kind of pay that was more than the very basic needs.
I would add in fun money/vacations/etc only that 3-6 months was available and after 401k/college/etc savings.
I would try all I could to NOT accrue Credit Card debt in the down times because then you are always in a catch-up mode when there is a good time. But if you have CC debt I would try to pay it off while not putting anything else on....
We've been on a flexible income a few times and I could only deal with it this way. Others might be comfortable with CC debt that can be paid off etc. I just don't feel future income is guaranteed (even for a salaried same pay every week type job)
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 21:19:27 GMT
You Need A Budget (YNAB) has good information on budgeting in general and does address budgeting with variable income.
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Post by AN on May 27, 2016 21:20:19 GMT
I'm also a Dave Ramsey fan for matters of budgeting. Here's an article on his site about budgeting an irregular income, and if you search his site there are also audio clips from his radio show addressing this and probably some example forms. www.daveramsey.com/blog/how-to-budget-an-irregular-income/You can listen to his podcast free, all 3 hours daily. His books are also available in most libraries and are a great resource for budgeting.
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Post by Rainy_Day_Woman on May 27, 2016 21:51:55 GMT
I think it is important to pay yourself a "salary" with erratic income. On good months, automatically bank the excess to make up for shortfall months and be diligent. It is somewhat necessary to budget though- at least enough that you have a rough idea of your expenses and how much you need to save to make up for bad months.
My industry is very feast or famine. I see too many of my friends living it up in the good months and crying broke in the bad. I had a set amount that I got paid every month. I had an account that I deposited my income into and then I transferred my "salary" into my chequing for use. Some months I borrowed from the coffers to make up my paycheque but most months I saved in excess as we live frugally.
Being consistent is key for erraric income and resisting the urge to spend on the good months, LOL.
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Post by jeremysgirl on May 27, 2016 22:26:23 GMT
I'm also a Dave Ramsey fan for matters of budgeting. Here's an article on his site about budgeting an irregular income, and if you search his site there are also audio clips from his radio show addressing this and probably some example forms. www.daveramsey.com/blog/how-to-budget-an-irregular-income/You can listen to his podcast free, all 3 hours daily. His books are also available in most libraries and are a great resource for budgeting. Thank you for suggesting this. I am going to see if I can find his podcast. I'm really nervous right now because DH has taken a job doing road construction so I am trying to navigate banking extra in the summer to plan for a winter lay off.
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Post by mom on May 27, 2016 22:41:30 GMT
Dave Ramsey was a life saver for us. He also has a free budgeting app, though I can't think of the name at the second.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 23:08:51 GMT
When you have irregular income, you have to prioritize. If I only have enough to cover the most important thing, what would that be?
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Post by seikashaven on May 27, 2016 23:39:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 23:47:39 GMT
From what I read online and even this forum; people aren't saving money for unexpected expenses and for their retirement. I believe that it would benefit everyone if they truly understood what it means to have a savings account. Saving is a component to a budget. When you budget for your cable bill, you need to budget for your savings. We budget and have always saved more than 15% of our take home. That is IN ADDITION to contributing 7% to our 401K. This savings is not for an upcoming vacation or purchase, it is saving for the unknown. For the past 38 years, we seldom touched that annual budgeted savings. It is amazing what we have saved, it is called living below your means. We had major unexpected expenses on our house this month to the tune of $7K to replace our heat pump. This happened after we bought new furniture, new appliances and paid for a vacation lodge for a week. If it wasn't for our discipline, I would be in tears. It is such a great feeling going to bed and not worrying.
As far as retirement, everyone should know what they spend now so they can figure how much their retirement savings needs to be when you retire. If you want to continue living like you do now, you need to know how much you are going to need outside of your monthly Social Security check. Saving for retirement doesn't start five years before you retire, it needs to start when you are in your twenties.
The only way we have savings is because it is in our budget, along with the mortgage, car insurance, etc.
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Post by FLA SummerBaby on May 28, 2016 0:01:26 GMT
Another Dave Ramsey fan here. Check out the link that AN posted. Hope it is a good starting point for you.
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Country Ham
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Post by Country Ham on May 28, 2016 0:13:54 GMT
Husband is a Ramsey fan. We don't budget and we are debt free. This might sound snippy but it's not meant to be. I tell my friends the same thing who have fluctuating incomes. If you have a big month, pay your normal monthly expenditures and sit on the rest of the money. Don't look at it like extra money for the month. Leave it there till the next low month. Look at what he made as a whole last year. Divide that by 12. use that number as your "income". So if he makes 3000 one month and only 2000 the next look at like he actually makes 2500 a month.
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Post by stampinbetsy on May 28, 2016 0:57:08 GMT
Another YNAB user here - they do address the variable income consumer. Like everyone else said, I think you have to figure out your baseline, then save what is above that baseline for months that don't go quite as well.
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momto4kiddos
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Post by momto4kiddos on May 28, 2016 11:30:22 GMT
Thanks for all the feedback, i'm going to check out a few of the links and see if they can't get me on track.
I feel good about our overall financial position, we're not in debt. I have an emergency fund, some of which should probably go into an investment because it's probably too much just sitting for an emergency. So overall we're in good shape.
I just feel like there is no plan for the future, we're just flying by the seat of our pants and I hate it.
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