MizIndependent
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 1, 2016 16:57:58 GMT
Funny you should mention the Simpsons...  |
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Post by dancingwithpaper on Jun 1, 2016 17:47:18 GMT
Funny you should mention the Simpsons... Eerie! |
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imsirius
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Post by imsirius on Jun 1, 2016 18:25:06 GMT
I had heard this theory just before the debates started. I don't know what to think. I know the Clintons and Trump were (are?) very close friends and spent time together. Someone had brought it up on a local news show here saying that there was a theory that Trump and the Clinton's had cooked up a scheme to ensure Hilary's nomination and win. Didn't Trump used to be a Democrat at one point? It seemed strange to the panel on the show that he would run Republican.
I wasn't really paying that much attention, but it has been thrown around before.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 1, 2016 18:52:34 GMT
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Post by katieanna on Jun 1, 2016 20:32:40 GMT
Conspiracies, conspiracies....
But you know what? It wouldn't surprise me one bit. Didn't Trump switch from Democrat to Republican specifically for this election?
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Post by mzza111 on Jun 1, 2016 20:36:57 GMT
Oh I hope it's true! A republican in the White House scares the shit out of me!
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Post by Sam on Jun 1, 2016 20:40:28 GMT
Interesting - while the rest of the world shakes its head at the thought that either candidate could actually end up as the figurehead for one of the most influential nations on earth....
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Post by papersilly on Jun 1, 2016 20:45:48 GMT
I find this hard to believe especially since Trump is a horse that's impossible to put back in the barn once he is out. Here are some reasons: -It's impossible to control him - He loves attention to much and will make it about him and only him -He loves himself to much to care about anyone else -he only cares about himself and advancing his agenda
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 1, 2016 21:08:39 GMT
I find this hard to believe especially since Trump is a horse that's impossible to put back in the barn once he is out. Here are some reasons: -It's impossible to control him - He loves attention to much and will make it about him and only him -He loves himself to much to care about anyone else -he only cares about himself and advancing his agenda
, unless he's in on it and working in collusion with the Clintons. Or, conversely, he might not even be aware he's being used. Maybe Bill just put a minor ego-boosting idea into Trump's head, then reached out to other people to get THEM to encourage Trump, the idea that Trump would be such a huge disruption he'd draw most of the media attention from other more "serious" GOP contenders while also (very importantly) drawing attention away from the ongoing controversies surrounding Hillary Clinton, which, you have to admit is certainly what he's been doing. - He loves attention to much and will make it about him and only him, which actually makes this exactly the reason this all would work - think about the timing of last week's "Sure, I'll debate Bernie!" "No, I won't!" "Yes I will!" "Nope, sorry." It was exactly one day after the State Department released its report on Hillary's email scandal in which she was found 100% culpable. The media machine was just beginning to spin up when Trump announced the debate was on and that's all anyone talked about through Saturday. Distraction needed, distraction achieved. BTW, the Clintons are old hat at email scandals. -He loves himself too much to care about anyone else, which also makes him the perfect candidate for such an operation - they'll remember him FOREVER. -he only cares about himself and advancing his agenda, I don't think even he believes his agenda, which is an ever changing landscape of opinions. Say what you will but I will say...in a world as strange and power-hungry as our is, this is possible...highly unlikely but still possible. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 21:31:49 GMT
 I said this same thing, just last week on another Trump thread...
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Post by mellyw on Jun 1, 2016 21:37:18 GMT
While I don't believe this to be true, & I've heard this theory before, I put nothing & I mean nothing past politicians these days.
If I try to think the theory out though, I can also see Trump enjoying the power too much (all I have is an old David Tennant Dr Who episode going thru my head, with the T.V lady yelling feed me!!) & turning on the Clintons, cause, well, power. And ego that people like the douche-waffle ideas he comes up with.
Or maybe I should stay off the internets being doped up from having 6 teeth pulled. It's one or the other.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 22:50:43 GMT
I find this hard to believe especially since Trump is a horse that's impossible to put back in the barn once he is out. Here are some reasons: -It's impossible to control him - He loves attention to much and will make it about him and only him -He loves himself to much to care about anyone else -he only cares about himself and advancing his agenda
Reminds me of Dustin Hoffman's character in Wag the Dog. And remember what happened to him?   |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 22:59:19 GMT
The thought that anyone would knowingly unleash the kind of crazy that is presumptive Republican nominee Trump upon this country is seriously scary. I think the GOP is responsible for this mess. They needed to come up with some viable candidates and they failed miserably. Both parties have, actually.
I'm beyond ready for the two party system to take a permanent hike.
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Post by papersilly on Jun 1, 2016 23:02:27 GMT
I find this hard to believe especially since Trump is a horse that's impossible to put back in the barn once he is out. Here are some reasons: -It's impossible to control him - He loves attention to much and will make it about him and only him -He loves himself to much to care about anyone else -he only cares about himself and advancing his agenda
, unless he's in on it and working in collusion with the Clintons. Or, conversely, he might not even be aware he's being used. Maybe Bill just put a minor ego-boosting idea into Trump's head, then reached out to other people to get THEM to encourage Trump, the idea that Trump would be such a huge disruption he'd draw most of the media attention from other more "serious" GOP contenders while also (very importantly) drawing attention away from the ongoing controversies surrounding Hillary Clinton, which, you have to admit is certainly what he's been doing. - He loves attention to much and will make it about him and only him, which actually makes this exactly the reason this all would work - think about the timing of last week's "Sure, I'll debate Bernie!" "No, I won't!" "Yes I will!" "Nope, sorry." It was exactly one day after the State Department released its report on Hillary's email scandal in which she was found 100% culpable. The media machine was just beginning to spin up when Trump announced the debate was on and that's all anyone talked about through Saturday. Distraction needed, distraction achieved. BTW, the Clintons are old hat at email scandals. -He loves himself too much to care about anyone else, which also makes him the perfect candidate for such an operation - they'll remember him FOREVER. -he only cares about himself and advancing his agenda, I don't think even he believes his agenda, which is an ever changing landscape of opinions. Say what you will but I will say...in a world as strange and power-hungry as our is, this is possible...highly unlikely but still possible. wow, great points. then if it's truly a possibility, this will rank as one of the greatest conspiracies ever executed. right up there with who really killed JFK, what happened to DB Cooper, and where is Hoffa buried |
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Post by papersilly on Jun 1, 2016 23:02:50 GMT
I find this hard to believe especially since Trump is a horse that's impossible to put back in the barn once he is out. Here are some reasons: -It's impossible to control him - He loves attention to much and will make it about him and only him -He loves himself to much to care about anyone else -he only cares about himself and advancing his agenda
Reminds me of Dustin Hoffman's character in Wag the Dog. And remember what happened to him? I never saw the movie. what happened? |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 1, 2016 23:59:43 GMT
I actually posted the same theory months ago! |
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Post by flute4peace on Jun 2, 2016 4:52:19 GMT
Funny you should mention the Simpsons...  |
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Post by flute4peace on Jun 2, 2016 4:54:18 GMT
Oh I hope it's true! A republican in the White House scares the shit out of me! Trump in the white house scares the shit out of me - I don't care what party he's "representing" |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2016 6:03:45 GMT
The theory that I have seen tossed about is:
Trump is the nominee and wins, then he turns the whole kit and kabootle over to Paul Ryan.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Jun 2, 2016 10:53:53 GMT
Interesting - while the rest of the world shakes its head at the thought that either candidate could actually end up as the figurehead for one of the most influential nations on earth.... Can you elaborate on the head-shaking? I didn't even realize that Ms. Clinton's potential candidacy was viewed increduously - or even negatively - around the world, so I need to be educated. I was in Berlin and London five months ago and had a few (U.S.) political conversations with locals in each location. At the time, the idea of a Trump candidacy caused strong disbelief/alarm, but Ms. Clinton was either viewed positively or not mentioned. What's the feeling about her now? |
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Post by theshyone on Jun 2, 2016 11:10:41 GMT
Interesting - while the rest of the world shakes its head at the thought that either candidate could actually end up as the figurehead for one of the most influential nations on earth.... Can you elaborate on the head-shaking? I didn't even realize that Ms. Clinton's potential candidacy was viewed increduously - or even negatively - around the world, so I need to be educated. I was in Berlin and London five months ago and had a few (U.S.) political conversations with locals in each location. At the time, the idea of a Trump candidacy caused strong disbelief/alarm, but Ms. Clinton was either viewed positively or not mentioned. What's the feeling about her now? From the Canadian perspective Hilary is the elite, with nothing in common with the middle to low. She will make the rich richer and screw everyone else. Trump just omg. Can the USA really be so stupid as to entertain either of these people as a leader? They are the laughingstock of the world.....snicker just parroting what I hear others say, no way would I voice my own opinions on politics. |
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Post by scrapnnana on Jun 2, 2016 12:47:19 GMT
I have actually seriously wondered this myself, if Bill Clinton persuaded Trump to run, although I'm sure it wouldn't have required much persuasion. I'm sure Trump views the whole thing as a win-win, whether he becomes president or not. He gets lots of media exposure, he can be as outrageous as he wants, say what he wants, and have an absolute joy ride while destroying everything that conservatives stand for.
I am absolutely horrified that he is the presumed Republican nominee.
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Post by gryroagain on Jun 2, 2016 13:19:48 GMT
At least here in Korea, everyone I have talked to (from cab drivers to young rich kids at a coffee shop) is horrified Trump exists, and thinks highly of Clinton. That probably has a lot to do with the none headed things Trump has been saying re Korea, though. One of the conversations was prior to the "make them pay for it" speech though and the man (a 60s something cab driver) spoke highly of her as SOS and said she was smart.
The expats of all non-Korean nationalities are all Hillary fans too, except for a smattering of Bernie supporters. So I am surprised there are people shaking their heads at our two candidates- seems to be just the one where I am.
I've never met a Trump supporter in real life. I don't even think any of my republican Facebook friends "like" him though they may vote for him, certainly no one, even the most hard core republican, has posted a single pro-Trump thing. Anti Hillary? Yes. But not pro Trump. It's telling to me.
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Post by caro on Jun 2, 2016 13:45:53 GMT
Oh I hope it's true! A republican in the White House scares the shit out of me! And that particular "Republican" especially scares me. |
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Post by lucyg on Jun 2, 2016 18:02:52 GMT
Can you elaborate on the head-shaking? I didn't even realize that Ms. Clinton's potential candidacy was viewed increduously - or even negatively - around the world, so I need to be educated. I was in Berlin and London five months ago and had a few (U.S.) political conversations with locals in each location. At the time, the idea of a Trump candidacy caused strong disbelief/alarm, but Ms. Clinton was either viewed positively or not mentioned. What's the feeling about her now? She will make the rich richer and screw everyone else. Trump just omg. Can the USA really be so stupid as to entertain either of these people as a leader? They are the laughingstock of the world.....snicker just parroting what I hear others say, no way would I voice my own opinions on politics. Then it seems to me that Canadians must know nothing of her history, experience, and skills.  |
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Post by pierkiss on Jun 2, 2016 20:37:31 GMT
This wouldn't surprise me in the least. I find it odd that they used to be "good" friends long before this year and now all of a sudden they hate each other. But really, I can totally see the Clintons doing this to try and rig this election in Hilary's favor.
I am still beyond shocked that Trump has actually won the Rep. Nomination and is the front runner. I just can't believe it.
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Post by pierkiss on Jun 2, 2016 20:44:14 GMT
The theory that I have seen tossed about is: Trump is the nominee and wins, then he turns the whole kit and kabootle over to Paul Ryan. No. Just no. |
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Post by RosieKat on Jun 2, 2016 20:51:54 GMT
Can the USA really be so stupid as to entertain either of these people as a leader? They are the laughingstock of the world.....snicker just parroting what I hear others say, no way would I voice my own opinions on politics. Eh, that's pretty much what *this* American is thinking about us. :/ |
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I said this same thing, just last week on another Trump thread...
