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Post by Dixie Lou on Jun 3, 2016 2:58:53 GMT
Today was the second to the last day of school and a half day. We had our end of year class parties. I barely made it through (wonderful party, wonderful kids and parents) the day before I had to leave with a severe migraine. After I was gone one of my teammates was walking down the office hallway and overheard another of our teammates crying (literally) to our VP that "they" meaning US, won't help her with anything.
Now, we most always invite her class to participate in fun stuff with our classes. Yesterday was play day and last week I invited her to bring her class over to mine for watermelon. She declined. She always declines. We will tell her of a fun project we are doing and she doesn't want to do it. The third teacher and I get together weekly homework and the weekly newsletter for all three classes and she does nothing to contribute and help us out. But then she will go to other people in the school and say we won't work with her.
She got her feelings hurt when we didn't say anything about her changing grade levels (not by her own choice, she was already upset about leaving our level) but she had known for two weeks and kept it a secret from us. We hear from other teachers that she told them she didn't want us to know. We found out through the grapevine and then the cat was out of the bag when principal sent out an email to the entire staff about which teachers were moving grade levels and who our new teachers were going to be. We truly did not know what to say because she had made it into such a big secret.
I've worked with this woman for ten years. She gossips about the kindergarten teachers to us and gossips about us to kindergarten teachers. I want to scream. I mean, I'm sorry she is frustrated. She was told she was changing grade levels therefore has to move to a different classroom. Does she really expect me to get all my work done then go and help her do hers? I don't get paid to help her, which I totally WOULD DO but I have my own personal issues this year and am behind with my end of the year stuff already. The third teacher is also pregnant and it's all she can do to get her own work done. First teacher won't work past contract hours but I will have to do that in order to have the time to help her with her work.
Thanks for listening. I am just tired of finding out I am being gossiped about when all I've been is nice to her.
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Post by jamielynn on Jun 3, 2016 3:04:56 GMT
The good news is typically those higher up see this kind of thing.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Jun 3, 2016 3:06:19 GMT
She sounds like a class A beyotch. Everyone probably has her number already.
I'd say IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE.
I hate drama.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 3, 2016 3:07:17 GMT
Ugh, be grateful she is moving grade level
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Post by beachbum on Jun 3, 2016 3:16:47 GMT
I think I worked with her before, or her twin... she threw everyone under the bus before she was moved from our school! Everyone! Good thing our P had her number and pretty much laughed in her face when she did that. Be thankful she's moving, you won't have to deal with her next year but she's stuck with herself - It must be miserable to be in her skin.
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Post by Belia on Jun 3, 2016 3:26:58 GMT
No way would I be helping her to move classrooms... even if you're BFFs, everyone has their own shit to do at the end of the year. I've never heard of such a thing. She wants help, she can bring her husband / partner / kids to help just like every other teacher that I've ever known. Ignore and rise above. She's changing grade levels in less than 24 hours and will no longer be your problem.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 3, 2016 3:30:36 GMT
I probably would have said something about her switching grade levels. Ten years deserves a comment regardless of how poorly you feel like you have been treated. I would also make time to help her move. It just seems like the right thing to do. THEN be thankful she is out of your grade level. I had to move classrooms the first three years of teaching and the kids could help. I also had to move twice 5 years ago and I had 95 boxes and pieces of furniture. I did most of it myself and had my sons come up on the weekend to help me. When I retired, I moved out for three months box by box by myself. Moving sucks. I should add that I could have had help. I just wanted it done carefully.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 3, 2016 3:32:52 GMT
No way would I be helping her to move classrooms... even if you're BFFs, everyone has their own shit to do at the end of the year. I've never heard of such a thing. She wants help, she can bring her husband / partner / kids to help just like every other teacher that I've ever known. Ignore and rise above. She's changing grade levels in less than 24 hours and will no longer be your problem. We often had 10-15 people move per year. Each teacher had a "team" of several people to help and an afternoon designated for moving. It was crazy. Some people could move in 30 minutes and others needed much longer.
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Post by Country Ham on Jun 3, 2016 11:30:35 GMT
Now, we most always invite her class to participate in fun stuff with our classes. Yesterday was play day and last week I invited her to bring her class over to mine for watermelon. She declined. She always declines. We will tell her of a fun project we are doing and she doesn't want to do it. The third teacher and I get together weekly homework and the weekly newsletter for all three classes and she does nothing to contribute and help us out. But then she will go to other people in the school and say we won't work with her. I was friends with the "odd teacher out" before she moved schools. Reread what you wrote here. "we" always invite her when "we" have something fun planned, "we" tell her about a fun project "we" are doing etc. "we" get together and plan and she does nothing to help "us". It may not have been this way from the beginning, and sometimes it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy for the person on the outside (for any life situation). They feel left out of the decision making process so they get upset and push themselves away but then by pushing away they feel more left out etc. I know how my friend felt. This was also Kindergarten. She was a new hire, but not new to teaching, and the other 2 teachers had been there for a few years now. Their classrooms were adjacent and they shared an office/storage space between the rooms with adjoining doors. The kindergarten aide was based out of that office. The new hire was in a classroom across the hall. It was such little things that made her feel like the third wheel of the 3 teachers. Teachers A and B would be chatting between classes and decide "Let's take the kids outside for a break around 1:30". They call teacher C. "We are taking the kids outside during their bulldog time if you want to come out then too". No seeing what she wanted to do first, no seeing if she had anything going on. So she looks included, but really the plans were set by 2 teachers already and she was 'invited' into their plans. If she says no the other 2 look at each other say "we tried". This is a real petty example but a whole bunch of them added up over a year or 2. I am sure you will say this is not what happened but first instinct on reading that particular paragraph was "oh that reminds of _______". Sometimes it's hard at our school because of traditions already in place. A new to our school teacher comes in and they are informed "we always do a luau in first grade end of year party", "second grade always has a western theme party" etc. Right away any ideas they might of had are shot down before they open their mouths. ETA: our teachers moved in the summers. Sometimes they didn't find out till a week before classes start and then it's panic mode. Usually friends/family help them. Anything large to move they ear mark for the janitorial staff .
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 3, 2016 11:53:38 GMT
Thank the stars that she is moving and start next year off good!
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Post by debmast on Jun 3, 2016 12:01:31 GMT
Do your work. Go home. Enjoy the summer. And be glad she is switching grades next year and you're done with her.
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Post by Merge on Jun 3, 2016 12:05:27 GMT
If she was in with the AP, I'd wonder if she had just received a bad evaluation or was being put on a growth plan and was trying to deflect. A teacher who only works contract hours would have to be struggling with getting everything done.
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Post by gailoh on Jun 3, 2016 12:15:48 GMT
Do you work. Go home. Enjoy the summer. And be glad she is switching grades next year and you're done with her. I agree with this...
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Post by Layce on Jun 3, 2016 12:40:19 GMT
Again with the teacher drama These types of threads outnumber all the rest here. Aren't teachers educated professionals? Yet many times the group dynamics are literally "worse than the kids" ! I work at a business where we are educated professionals as well, and you try to pull some of this childish crap there.. well, it ain't gonna happen. Think cold stare and a "Really?" Just sayin' ...
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 3, 2016 12:48:07 GMT
Ugh, I work with someone like that. I feel your pain.
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Post by Florida Cindy on Jun 3, 2016 12:52:13 GMT
Dixie Lou, This "team mate" is not your monkey.........therefore...........not your circus. She displays these behaviors for attention. Since she's not your monkey and not in your circus.........ignore.
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Post by peasapie on Jun 3, 2016 13:00:11 GMT
If she was in with the AP, I'd wonder if she had just received a bad evaluation or was being put on a growth plan and was trying to deflect. A teacher who only works contract hours would have to be struggling with getting everything done. I agree with this wholeheartedly. Im going to guess your administrator already has her number, so try not to take her words to heart or to worry they will be believed. If if you have a moment, offer to help. It's good karma for you.
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Jun 3, 2016 14:30:52 GMT
Model the behavior you'd like your students to have. Would you want your students to help the unpopular kid or leave him/her to do things on their own? Always take the high road. Even if it is only for 30 minutes, go help her.
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Post by moodyblue on Jun 3, 2016 16:36:42 GMT
Model the behavior you'd like your students to have. Would you want your students to help the unpopular kid or leave him/her to do things on their own? Always take the high road. Even if it is only for 30 minutes, go help her. You know, it would be so easy to effectively say "screw you" and leave her on her own, but it's never wrong to act like a professional and take the high road, even when you don't want to. I'd vote for what I quoted above. Also, this post - and what Country Ham had to say - brought up some things I've thought about a lot. In 38 years of teaching I've watched a LOT of different grade level team dynamics, and I think I've seen just about every variation possible. We currently have three sections of each grade level, but have had four and sometimes even five in the earlier years of my career. It can be really difficult for a grade level team to be on the same page about everything, and so much depends on the personalities of the people. We currently have a grade level where we have one veteran teacher and two non-tenured teachers: the veteran is something of a dictator (definitely part of her personality) and has no problem simply saying how things will be done, no discussion needed or wanted. Her co-workers are more easy-going and adaptable so, while they are sometimes frustrated by this, they mostly don't get too worked up about it - but when she worked with other veteran teachers in the past, this didn't go over so well and caused friction. Consequently, this veteran has kind of a reputation of being difficult to work with. We've had teams where a new person comes in and the two veterans do a lot of the "this is what we do/this is how we do it" talk, and it's expected that the newbie will just fall in with the plan. That can be really hard for the new team member, especially if s/he has different ideas to try out. New ideas aren't always wanted or are shot down quickly. Country Ham pointed out that there was a lot of "we" in the original post, and I see that too. It may well be as stated, that she's a difficult personality and truly didn't make an effort to be part of the team. I also always wonder about teachers who won't work outside of contract time; that certainly isn't the norm! However, I also know how hard a trio can be to manage, especially if two of the three are pretty much in sync and the third one isn't. It's very easy to fall into a pattern where two of the three make decisions and plans and the third one doesn't even get asked for input. It just gets even worse if one person doesn't contribute as much effort. But, there is a HUGE difference between "We are going to do this. Do you want to join us?" and "Do you have any thoughts/ideas about what we can do?" I hope the new person on your team is made to feel welcome and that his/her ideas are solicited instead of just assuming old patterns will be followed.
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Post by MerryMom on Jun 3, 2016 16:46:46 GMT
And you expected the tiger to change its stripes??? Just kidding and I get that you are venting. IF, and I mean IF, you want to say anything to her, I would approach her with others around and say "Oh I hear you were unhappy that 'we' weren't helping you with anything. When did you specifically ask me for help? In what way have I not been helpful to you?" Yep, I love to throw that sh%$ right back at the person if I am in the right mood. and she wrote it better than I could.
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Post by Dixie Lou on Jun 3, 2016 22:38:28 GMT
The reason I said "we" in my post was because she was complaining about "us." Actually I've worked with her for 13 years but we've not always been on the same team. I really do love her; I was just frustrated last night. She doesn't have to move her stuff, just get it packed up. She's all done because she has people helping her who don't have their own room to pack up. I was also upset because she said Mrs. such and such shouldn't have to help me because THEY should be helping me. Anyway, this is the first bit of drama I've been involved in and I am going on 15 years at school.. It's been a long year and we're all tired. Thanks for all the perspectives. I agree. She is probably upset because she is being moved to a different grade level. My principal wants me to stay in this grade level. She thinks that this is where I belong and the other teacher and I work so well together so she wants to keep us together. We all worked well together until the drama of one of us moving began. It was a month before we knew who it was going to be. (There's five of us not three.
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Post by georgiapea on Jun 3, 2016 23:42:37 GMT
If she'd been successful in keeping her "secret", you wouldn't even have known she was being moved so you wouldn't have been expected to help with a physical move. In that she always turns down any invitation to join in multi-class participation, she can hardly expect you to join in her 'moving party'.
Pretty sure the Principal already knows what kind of person she is and pays as little attention as possible to her whining.
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Post by CeeScraps on Jun 4, 2016 2:14:18 GMT
I have moved 9 times throughout my teaching career. Each and every time I packed my stuff myself. Was it a lot of work...of course it was. Moving the stuff. At times my dh came and helped and times I did it myself.
One of my moves was across the street. Doesn't sound bad, but 70 boxes, a file cabinet, a couple of tables later I did it myself. I spoke with the teacher whose room I was going into. She allowed me to place my things in the farthest corner of her room. She placed her things next to the door.
I went in many, many mornings at 5:00 a.m. to move prior to school each day. Once I had moved a lot then I returned to my room and "cleaned" up as much as I could in the bathroom.
I don't recall how many days it took, but I did it.
She's whining because the end of the year without moving is a lot of work. If she hasn't prepped for this it's even more work. She probably doesn't want to be left there working while others have started their vacation time.
Do your thing. You said you've had personal issues. Get your stuff done and go home. She's out of your grade level, probably for a reason.
I hope you feel better!
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