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Post by buddysmom on Jun 5, 2016 14:11:00 GMT
A relative is selling his home and received a very detailed (pretty picky) home inspection report. This is from the buyers inspector, not the bank.
Does the bank receive a copy of this? It is conventional not FHA.
Is it negotiable?
It seems that it would be easier to negotiate a certain amount of money back at closing and let the buyers do what they want with it.
What is your opinion.
Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2016 14:15:36 GMT
Of course it's negotiable and reducing the sales price to cover it may be an option (though some buyers won't want it that way because that means they will have to come up with cash out of pocket to do the repairs). I would wager that more buyers are going to want the repairs done before they assume ownership because then they are less likely to be stuck with surprises.
Depending on the nature of the items, some things may have to be repaired before sale to qualify for financing.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 5, 2016 14:24:17 GMT
I guess it depends on where you are and the state laws that apply.
However in my limited experience a 'picky' buyers home inspection report is just that a negotiating tool. Our buyer wanted us to leave our washer, dryer and fridge. So they asked for a huge list of stuff. We said no. They said can we have the 3 appliances. We said sure when is the closing date.
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Post by keithurbanlovinpea on Jun 5, 2016 14:32:46 GMT
There is no "bank" inspector. An independent appraiser hired by the bank, yes. But the home inspector is hired by the buyer (or seller) and used as both a tool to create a level of understanding of the property, and for negotiation.
The buyer or seller can ask for whatever he or she wants based on the inspection, but the opposite party has to agree. I would encourage a seller to use the report as a tool to make upgrades or repairs that would increase the viability of a sale (any sale) or work with a buyer on reasonable changes to the price/funding.
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Post by perumbula on Jun 5, 2016 14:35:24 GMT
Yes, it's all negotiable. A lot of home inspection reports are nit picky. I had one just last week on a home that was three years old and had been lived in by a very neat bachelor. It still came up with nit picky stuff. It's partly a negotiation tactic and partly because home inspectors don't want to be sued if the buyers move in and find something wrong the home inspector should have found.
In my state (and I say that because real estate law is different in every state) you can do one of four things after an inspection: 1-ask for repairs to be done. This means ask for everything to be fixed or a partial list of what was found. It's up to the buyer. 2-ask for a reduction in the price of the home to cover the costs of the repairs. 3-ask for cash back at closing to cover the cost of repairs. 4-back out of the purchase entirely.
All of these are negotiable. If a buyer asks for a a long list of repairs or something the seller doesn't feel is reasonable, they can negotiate try and negotiate for those repairs not be done. For example, I had a buyer ask one of my sellers to change how an over the range microwave was vented. My seller felt since the way it was installed was done correctly, the buyer could pay for a change on his own dime. If a buyer asks for more than the seller feels is reasonable to cover the cost of repairs, the seller can negotiate for a lower amount.
Just about everything is negotiable in real estate.
The bank does not receive a copy of the inspection. heck, in my state the seller is not even always entitled to a copy. It's the buyers' report they paid for. They decide who sees it.
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Post by quiltz on Jun 5, 2016 14:36:33 GMT
In Ontario, there is the Ontario Association of Home Inspectors that the majority of people use to inspect the house prior to purchasing. This is highly recommended by both the seller & buyers Real Estate agents, as there is usually a clause in the agreement for this inspection prior to the closure. Some mortgage agreements have this clause as they need to be certain that a person can afford the house if it turns out that there will be more money required to fix issues, possibly increasing the $amount of the cost of the house.
Inspectors have insurance coverage through the association and if they fail to find something, that cost is then covered by that insurance.
The housing market is different in Ontario (Canada) because our mortgage rules are very stringent & different than in the USA.
Any house should have an inspection done by a licensed & insured professional inspector. Buying a house is the biggest purchase for most people & you don't want surprises after you have closed the deal.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 5, 2016 15:02:08 GMT
Everything is negotiable and it really depends on the buyer if they are looking for a credit or the items fixed.
We bought a house with a damaged window and a water tank that needed to be replaced and took a credit. We wanted to pick the new water tank and defer the window fix until we did an addition and replaced all the window.
When we sold that house, the buyer's inspection report included things like the bedroom windows weren't to current code (they were higher as allowed when the house was built in 1963). The buyer wanted that changed and our realtor ended up talking to their inspector who was shocked they'd included that as a fix. He put it in the report as an FYI bit of information, not as something that needed to be fixed or changed, and it took a lot of persuading to get the buyer to drop that condition. A garage door also needed to be replaced and this same buyer refused a credit, which made more sense to us, so that he could replace both doors with whatever he wanted after he had possession. Instead, we replaced one door and then he replaced it and the other original door about a month later.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 5, 2016 15:19:04 GMT
The last two homes we purchased with financing, the bank did require copies of the inspection report. We always use the same, extremely thorough home inspector. His reports are extensive and the seller might consider them nitpicky, but for us it's all about completely understanding the current status of the property. We do not expect every item in the report to be fixed - especially as some of it is just noting the age and remaining life expectancy of appliances or sometimes items that aren't to current code, but would have been grandfathered in due to the age of the house. There are obviously some items that we would want to be fixed and we have had items that the bank will require to be remedied prior to closing for financing - these items are typically safety related items (one house did not have GFIs outlets in the bathrooms.
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Post by melanell on Jun 5, 2016 16:01:04 GMT
The last time we had an inspection done, the inspector did find some minor (nit-picky) things, but he came right out and told us they were no big deal. But since he noticed them, he did include them in the report. They had no bearing on our decisions in regard to the house, though. We never even mentioned any of them to the seller. Unfortunately, there were some not small or nit-picky things wrong as well, and those are what we focused on.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jun 5, 2016 16:16:10 GMT
In CA the only things that are required by law are health and safety issues. Most lenders won't allow a seller to *give* money at closing to buyers to cover repairs but it can usually be done as a credit towards closing costs. FHA are really tough. A short-sale house that one of DH's buyers was close to closing on needed some tile work done in the dining room and the buyer couldn't afford it so DH went out and did the work himself.
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Post by georgiapea on Jun 5, 2016 18:48:42 GMT
As a seller I would not ever pay for a home inspection. As a buyer, I always have it done, at my expense. I want the inspector working for me, finding any feature that needs addressing.
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Post by Leone on Jun 5, 2016 19:55:48 GMT
I have found the inspection process fairly ridiculous. When my mom's house was being sold, the inspector came up with 22 items and all but one were stupid....like a sprinkler head needed to be rotated 45 degrees...the jerk could have twisted it himself. I got the one worthy thing fixed. Much of the other things were items that had been up to code when house was built in 1992 but codes had been changed. My realtor negotiated that all 21 items would be a $200 deduction from the selling price. My BIL just sold his 20 year old house in 'Maryland...that inspection indicated he should replace all the windows! Didn't happen.
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Post by quiltz on Jun 5, 2016 21:50:45 GMT
The last time we had an inspection done, the inspector did find some minor (nit-picky) things, but he came right out and told us they were no big deal. But since he noticed them, he did include them in the report. They had no bearing on our decisions in regard to the house, though. We never even mentioned any of them to the seller. Unfortunately, there were some not small or nit-picky things wrong as well, and those are what we focused on. I have found the inspection process fairly ridiculous. When my mom's house was being sold, the inspector came up with 22 items and all but one were stupid....like a sprinkler head needed to be rotated 45 degrees...the jerk could have twisted it himself. I got the one worthy thing fixed. Much of the other things were items that had been up to code when house was built in 1992 but codes had been changed. My realtor negotiated that all 21 items would be a $200 deduction from the selling price. My BIL just sold his 20 year old house in 'Maryland...that inspection indicated he should replace all the windows! Didn't happen. The inspector has to list everything, small or big, including items on which the building code has changed. A house is probably be your largest purchase. Here, the seller must disclose everything about the history of the house. It is NOT buyer beware but, seller say everything. Getting an inspection done before you list the home allows you, the seller, to fix as much as you can. Then you show the inspection and the receipts for the repairs and it reflects on you for being open & honest.
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