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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 6, 2016 20:13:54 GMT
truly, I don't think you'll ever get an answer to your question of WHY some people think the way they do about things... there's probably not even one particular reason, it's probably a LOT of reasons all glommed together. I have no idea about those kids but I'll hazard a guess and say what ended up in that video could have been partly because they were drunk, teenagers, stupid, not thinking about the internet being forever, etc. etc.
Like Lauren wrote, just because the kids said those things in the video doesn't mean they were raised with those ideas. (it doesn't mean they weren't either; it just means we don't KNOW anything about them except what was in that video and in the news stories.)
I really believe you can never know what motivates someone without knowing them and their specific set of life circumstances- past, present, and future.
(and I'm really not saying any of what I've written to be snarky in any way, just to be clear... I'm just a very fact-oriented person.)
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Post by BeckyTech on Jun 6, 2016 20:25:57 GMT
It is just so disturbing to see this kind of attitude from anyone. Peruse YouTube, and you will find white and black versions of this and worse.
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Post by melanell on Jun 6, 2016 21:27:16 GMT
It sounds like it was a small group of kids and that immediate action was taken against them. What's to discuss? they may get kicked out of school. I don't think that is enough. It isn't ok that kids are being raised to think this is ok. How is this not hate speech? Talking about burning people alive and stabbing them, branding them so people know who they "belong to". I don't understand these kind of comments. Since when do teens automatically do only what their parents taught them or say or think only what their parents taught them?? If kids/teens automatically did, said, and believed everything their parents raised them to do, say, and believe, and nothing more, parenting would be such an easier gig. They don't. They have their own minds. Plus, they have countless other kids who they are in contact with every darn day. They are in contact with other adults. They have access to all sorts of craziness and offensive things on the internet. I am appalled and disgusted at their behavior and their words, and yes, in some cases it may be that they hear similar crap at home, but I definitely do not think that it automatically means that they all grew up with racist parents. It's not okay with me for kids to say these things. (Or adults, for that matter.) But it's also not okay with me to place the blame for something so awful on people I know absolutely nothing about.
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Country Ham
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Post by Country Ham on Jun 6, 2016 22:38:58 GMT
How have the kids been punished? "Immediately after being made aware of the situation, South administration began contacting students and families (and) making appropriate decisions regarding consequences for those involved, including student separations from school," the e-mail said. It went on to say that the majority of students "do not accept and will not tolerate such bigotry." It sounds like they were from the story. We don't know the details. It would be nice to know the exact consequences, but I doubt the district will say unless there is lots of pressure.
Why would the public be entitled to know the details? Why should anyone pressure anyone to cough up the details? Isn't that between the students/school?
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katybee
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Post by katybee on Jun 6, 2016 22:59:16 GMT
I think they created their own punishment. Once things are on the web, they are on the web forever. If they say shit like that, and they are proud of it, people will know. People that may want to date them or hire them… or maybe not, once they see that video.
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Post by OntarioScrapper on Jun 7, 2016 21:04:02 GMT
Last year a group of kids from our high school's branch for at risk youth wrote letters to the paper about slavery, talking about how it was no big deal and the slaves were well treated, etc. It was like a Nazi pamphlet. It was absolutely appalling. Snort. So sorry you can't do as you wish with your life but you are well taken care of. WTF! How about those students make the white kids slaves for a week and see how "well taken care of" they feel! Do they even know of the black women that were used for the males as they wished?
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justkaren
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Jun 27, 2014 2:42:15 GMT
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Post by justkaren on Jun 7, 2016 22:12:58 GMT
I've debated about writing this but I think I'm going to and take the consequences: While I don't agree with everything that people can / will say-- or post on the internet-- what I DO agree with is their right to say them as long as what they say or post doesn't break any laws. I'll help you out crimsoncat to add my own controversy. I saw this story, last week maybe? And as soon as I saw where these idiots were from, thought, sounds about right for the area. I haven't lived there in the greater Detroit area in 27 years, & I knew, just knew as I started reading that I'd all ready pinpointed the area this happened. Sad to say that some things don't change. ITA!
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cycworker
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Post by cycworker on Jun 7, 2016 22:30:21 GMT
I would like to see them arrested & charged for hate speech. And NOT in youth court, either.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 1:34:38 GMT
You walk a very fine line when you start to punish people for saying things that are not inciting riot or harm and that involve no action. The first amendment protects heinous words. As disgusting as what they were saying is,
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