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Post by cade387 on Jun 6, 2016 12:59:32 GMT
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Post by cade387 on Jun 6, 2016 14:12:43 GMT
This is local to me so it is on our news, was it not picked up anywhere else?
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 6, 2016 14:59:40 GMT
I haven't heard about it.
What the hell is wrong with people?
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Post by cade387 on Jun 6, 2016 15:17:42 GMT
It is just so bizarre. Who talks like that?
Honestly, I know views on here don't mean much in relation to responses, but I'm surprised there aren't many responses to this.
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Post by katybee on Jun 6, 2016 15:31:30 GMT
Look at the popularity of Donald Trump. I think people have been secretly harboring views like these for years, but it would have been "politically incorrect" to voice them outloud. But now we have a presidential nominee who proudly says racist things all the time, and people LIKE it. He tells it like it is. He's "honest". And it's given them permission to say these things, too.
At least when people say these things outloud, I know what kind of person they really are. I think I actually prefer it this way. At least then I know for sure they are racist slimeballs.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 6, 2016 15:32:21 GMT
It sounds like it was a small group of kids and that immediate action was taken against them.
What's to discuss?
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Post by Country Ham on Jun 6, 2016 16:10:31 GMT
It is just so bizarre. Who talks like that? Honestly, I know views on here don't mean much in relation to responses, but I'm surprised there aren't many responses to this. I couldn't find the video to watch.
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Post by lumo on Jun 6, 2016 16:26:29 GMT
Look at the popularity of Donald Trump. I think people have been secretly harboring views like these for years, but it would have been "politically incorrect" to voice them outloud. But now we have a presidential nominee who proudly says racist things all the time, and people LIKE it. He tells it like it is. He's "honest". And it's given them permission to say these things, too. At least when people say these things outloud, I know what kind of person they really are. I think I actually prefer it this way. At least then I know for sure they are racist slimeballs. Agreed. He's doing nothing except acting as a conduit for hatred.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jun 6, 2016 16:31:34 GMT
It is just so bizarre. Who talks like that? Honestly, I know views on here don't mean much in relation to responses, but I'm surprised there aren't many responses to this. I can't watch the video here at work. I didn't know it was a video until I clicked into the thread.
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Post by mallie on Jun 6, 2016 16:35:20 GMT
Last year a group of kids from our high school's branch for at risk youth wrote letters to the paper about slavery, talking about how it was no big deal and the slaves were well treated, etc. It was like a Nazi pamphlet. It was absolutely appalling.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 16:39:02 GMT
It sounds like it was a small group of kids and that immediate action was taken against them. What's to discuss? The fact that it's 2016 and there are still people who think this way.
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Post by tracylynn on Jun 6, 2016 16:42:25 GMT
It sounds like it was a small group of kids and that immediate action was taken against them. What's to discuss? Lots. If there are kids who actually think this is OK, this is a huge problem.
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Post by cade387 on Jun 6, 2016 16:43:42 GMT
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Post by cade387 on Jun 6, 2016 16:47:27 GMT
It sounds like it was a small group of kids and that immediate action was taken against them. What's to discuss? they may get kicked out of school. I don't think that is enough. It isn't ok that kids are being raised to think this is ok. How is this not hate speech? Talking about burning people alive and stabbing them, branding them so people know who they "belong to".
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Post by Kerri W on Jun 6, 2016 16:53:13 GMT
It sounds like it was a small group of kids and that immediate action was taken against them. What's to discuss? they may get kicked out of school. I don't think that is enough. It isn't ok that kids are being raised to think this is ok. How is this not hate speech? Talking about burning people alive and stabbing them, branding them so people know who they "belong to". No it isn't ok that ANYbody thinks this is ok. How do you know they were "raised to think this is ok"? Their parents may find just as reprehensible. Is there something to indicate that the parents feel similarly? For conversation sake...what do you think should be done? Who should be held responsible and how? SaveSave
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 6, 2016 16:59:43 GMT
I think the people who committed the transgression should bear the consequences; ie the students. And they have.
What do you want to do, lynch them???
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Post by cade387 on Jun 6, 2016 18:24:48 GMT
Do we really think that kids came up with branding kids and marking them as slaves just off the top of their heads?
I think they should be expelled. They haven't had any repercussions as yet. It didn't even happen at school so I appreciate that the school is doing something, but it is disgusting that kids speak this way and even more disgusting is apparently how many other people are ok with this if they felt they could say it out loud without upsetting anyone.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 6, 2016 19:00:06 GMT
Do we really think that kids came up with branding kids and marking them as slaves just off the top of their heads? I think they should be expelled. They haven't had any repercussions as yet. It didn't even happen at school so I appreciate that the school is doing something, but it is disgusting that kids speak this way and even more disgusting is apparently how many other people are ok with this if they felt they could say it out loud without upsetting anyone. ^^^ to answer that question: well, yes. Why couldn't they come up with an idea like that on their own? They're high school kids, right?? Why can't they come up with ideas of their own at that age?? And just because people here aren't adding to the discussion doesn't mean they are necessarily okay with what the kids said or did; but I agree with Lauren- it happened, the school is looking into how to handle it, so what else is there to say at this point, here?? And again, to reiterate, by saying this I'm not saying that I think what they said was okay-- at all. People think and say all SORTS of things that I don't think should still be believed in 2016.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 19:15:13 GMT
I think the people who committed the transgression should bear the consequences; ie the students. And they have. What do you want to do, lynch them??? I think it would be nice to find out why they think this way. If the group was talking about what great guy Hitler was maybe we should get some concentration camps going would you be more concerned?
How did they come to conclusion that bringing back slavery would be a good idea? How can they be so callous about a whole group of people?
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 6, 2016 19:29:00 GMT
No. I'd think that you had a handful of idiots. Just like I do in this instance. Speech without action may piss me off, but that's it. I don't feel this compulsion some of you feel to go after the parents, the school or anyone else merely because a group of idiot kids make objectionable comments.
The head of the NAACP in that area thought it was handled appropriately:
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Post by peasapie on Jun 6, 2016 19:40:29 GMT
It is sad, but not at all surprising. There are a lot of weird people in this world. Look at that trial with the policeman who was supposedly fantasizing about torturing someone, but they argued it was a fantasy he wasn't going to act on. Nothing surprises me anymore. My only consolation is to believe that most people are good.
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Post by cade387 on Jun 6, 2016 19:43:28 GMT
I never said to go after the school. Who said that?
The school is taking it upon themselves to do something about it, even though it didn't happen on school grounds. I appreciate that. It seems appalling that this is becoming more common and people can post videos saying just about anything and it doesn't even turn heads any more. It is more about that this is becoming more and more ok in society. It is disappointing.
I hope these kids are getting some education about the meaning of what they are saying. That words have meaning. A lot of other folks aren't held responsible for their words, so I hope in this case they are held accountable to someone, even if it is their parents.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 6, 2016 19:50:13 GMT
I've debated about writing this but I think I'm going to and take the consequences:
While I don't agree with everything that people can / will say-- or post on the internet-- what I DO agree with is their right to say them as long as what they say or post doesn't break any laws.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 6, 2016 19:52:28 GMT
Here's a quote from your post. First, whatever has lead you to believe these kids were "raised" to think this way? I guarantee you that parents do not control what their teenagers think or say.
Second, what do you think should be done? As I said before, what else should we do to people who say things we think are heinous?
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 6, 2016 19:55:17 GMT
The fact that it's 2016 and there are still people who think this way. It's relevant because kids need to know that it's not okay to spew this shit. They need to know what you put out there on social media does not go away. They need to know actions do have consequences. There's nothing wrong with discussing this story. Couldn't this be applied to almost every political thread because it's obvious Hillary is going to win? We could ask the why question all day long on this board about what we think is relevant. It's easy enough to stay out of threads that we don't care about. Instead of putting everyone down, select the thread, choose mark as read forever and it's even easier to ignore. ETA: This is a message board. We discuss things Ad nauseam that are pointless. Shopping carts, kitten heels, sidewalk cupcakes.... The kids have already been punished. I don't see that this was the point of the thread. Just people shaking their heads that there are *some* teens that are truly that ignorant.
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Post by mellyw on Jun 6, 2016 19:57:16 GMT
I've debated about writing this but I think I'm going to and take the consequences: While I don't agree with everything that people can / will say-- or post on the internet-- what I DO agree with is their right to say them as long as what they say or post doesn't break any laws. I'll help you out crimsoncat to add my own controversy. I saw this story, last week maybe? And as soon as I saw where these idiots were from, thought, sounds about right for the area. I haven't lived there in the greater Detroit area in 27 years, & I knew, just knew as I started reading that I'd all ready pinpointed the area this happened. Sad to say that some things don't change.
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Post by cade387 on Jun 6, 2016 20:01:17 GMT
Here's a quote from your post. First, whatever has lead you to believe these kids were "raised" to think this way? I guarantee you that parents do not control what their teenagers think or say. Second, what do you think should be done? As I said before, what else should we do to people who say things we think are heinous? I've answered it several times. If you don't want to read that isn't my problem.
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Post by cade387 on Jun 6, 2016 20:01:54 GMT
The fact that it's 2016 and there are still people who think this way. It's relevant because kids need to know that it's not okay to spew this shit. They need to know what you put out there on social media does not go away. They need to know actions do have consequences. There's nothing wrong with discussing this story. Couldn't this be applied to almost every political thread because it's obvious Hillary is going to win? We could ask the why question all day long on this board about what we think is relevant. It's easy enough to stay out of threads that we don't care about. Instead of putting everyone down, select the thread, choose mark as read forever and it's even easier to ignore. ETA: This is a message board. We discuss things Ad nauseam that are pointless. Shopping carts, kitten heels, sidewalk cupcakes.... The kids have already been punished. I don't see that this was the point of the thread. Just people shaking their heads that there are *some* teens that are truly that ignorant. How have the kids been punished? I haven't seen anything saying anyone has been punished?
But it is my point - why are some people really this ignorant?
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 6, 2016 20:06:36 GMT
How have the kids been punished? "Immediately after being made aware of the situation, South administration began contacting students and families (and) making appropriate decisions regarding consequences for those involved, including student separations from school," the e-mail said. It went on to say that the majority of students "do not accept and will not tolerate such bigotry." It sounds like they were from the story. We don't know the details. It would be nice to know the exact consequences, but I doubt the district will say unless there is lots of pressure.
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 6, 2016 20:08:58 GMT
You walk a very fine line when you start to punish people for saying things that are not inciting riot or harm and that involve no action.
The first amendment protects heinous words.
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