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Post by 3jaysanc on Jun 6, 2016 14:38:22 GMT
20minofaction
I am so sorry that your son can't eat his favorite foods and only " eats only to exist". I am so sorry that you think your son being incarcerated is "a steep price to pay for only 20 minutes of action" I was the victim of a man's "20 minutes of action" when I was 13 years old. In broad daylight. 20 minutes (approximately) was enough time to: -be choked unconscious -have my virginity taken -forever have the smell of freshly cut grass at the very least make me nauseated and at the very worst be a trigger for nightmares. -made me doubt my worth as a person, enough so that attempting suicide seemed the answer -turned a straight A student into a student that barely graduated high school because of the depression, loss of sleep and absolute belief that it/I just wasn't worth it. In approximately 20 minutes this man was able to hit, choke and rape me. I say approximately because I went in and out of consciousness. Forgive me if I wasn't really keeping track of the time. Tight, multi colored, stone wash jeans were popular then, I was wearing a pair. Forgive me, they must have been too tight. At that point, I had never kissed a boy but forgive me for being the seductress that drove a man to rape. To crush my mouth with his while choking me and grinding into me. Forgive me, I must have had a part in causing this to happen to me because I never reported it. I hid bruises, wore sunglasses, refused to go to school resulting in a huge blowout with my mother, I bled but I wasn't on my period, I was sore (it hurt to use the restroom) I started taking long showers and staying up at night so I could sleep through the day. My mother was not the most involved parent. She ignored all of the changes and blamed it on teenage angst. I walked three blocks from where I was raped with red eyes, grass in my hair, darkening bruises around my neck, blood running down my leg inside my jeans, in broad daylight. Some far off part of my mind said that someone would see me and they would help me. That person would start the process that I was too afraid to start. Someone would take care of me. But that walk... it was like I was invisible. That must be why he did it. I was so insignificant that he could do this and no one would see that it happened, no one would see Me. I was worthless. Forgive me, until then I didn't know I was worthless. I am almost 40. 27 years later, reading about this case, reading the letter from the victim to the rapist was enough to be a trigger. I have had nightmares for 2 nights. 20 minutes and 27 FUCKING YEARS LATER. 20 minutes. 27 YEARS. Forgive me but I DON'T GIVE A SHIT HOW THIS NEGATIVELY AFFECTS YOUR SON. Forgive me if I think that 6 months jail time because he was a Stanford student and potential Olympic swimmer is just another damn violation of his victim and every person who has been a victim to someone like him. I was violated mentally, physically and emotionally. I am not the same person I was before that. I will never be the person I could have potentially been if that had not happened. That person is as good as dead as if I had been successful in my suicide attempt. “A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him. … I think he will not be a danger to others,” the judge said, citing Turner’s youth and lack of criminal record, the Guardian reported. He is a rapist. He took something that is not visible, can't be quantified and the result of which has immeasurable effects for years. That's enough of a danger for me.
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Post by TankTop on Jun 6, 2016 14:43:44 GMT
The judge "thinks" he won't be a danger. Give me a break. What will you "think" when he assaults again because he got away with it once before?
I am so sorry for all that has happened to you. I am sorry for the pain, the feelings of guilt and worthlessness, and I'm sorry for the loss of innocence.
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Post by basketdiva on Jun 6, 2016 14:48:15 GMT
Instead, Turner received only six months in jail and three years of probation after a judge worried that a stiffer sentence would have a “severe impact” on the 20-year-old.
And what about the severe impact on the young woman's life??? Judge needs to never be allowed to sit in on sexual assult cases ever again.
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Post by katybee on Jun 6, 2016 14:53:12 GMT
This whole case makes me sick. Affluenza at its worst. I feel like we're all being punked and this is actually just a plot line from Law and Order SVU.
OP: I'm sorry for all you went through.
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Post by scrapperal on Jun 6, 2016 14:55:12 GMT
I am sorry for all that has happened. I don't know what to say, but I couldn't read and run.
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Post by 3jaysanc on Jun 6, 2016 14:55:29 GMT
The judge "thinks" he won't be a danger. Give me a break. What will you "think" when he assaults again because he got away with it once before? I am so sorry for all that has happened to you. I am sorry for the pain, the feelings of guilt and worthlessness, and I'm sorry for the loss of innocence. Thanks. Writing this out and a good, angry cry has worked wonders. I don't live in that kind of pain every day but I don't ever get to forget. I am just at a loss when it comes to this case.
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Post by pierkiss on Jun 6, 2016 14:56:42 GMT
This story absolutely sickens me. 6 months for rape because the judge didn't want to "severely impact this rising stars life". What a bunch of absolute bullshit. This man is a rapist and he needs to be treated as such. And that letter from his father!?!?!? Omg, I cannot even begin to wrap my head around that. I want him to have to serve an appropriate jail sentence along with his horrible son. I know that can't happen, but I want it to. OP, I am so sorry for what you have gone through.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 6, 2016 14:56:47 GMT
I read the letter the victim wrote to the rapist this morning.It is worth reading. This is such a travesty of justice and I can imagine what it is like to have to go through it all again as a victim, because of this kind of BS. I am sorry 3jaysanc that you had to go through that horrible experience.
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Post by 3jaysanc on Jun 6, 2016 14:58:12 GMT
I read the letter the victim wrote to the rapist this morning.It is worth reading. This is such a travesty of justice and I can imagine what it is like to have to go through it all again as a victim, because of this kind of BS. I am sorry 3jaysanc that you had to go through that horrible experience. It took me a couple of tries to get through that letter. But I agree, it is definitely worth reading.
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Post by trollie on Jun 6, 2016 14:58:52 GMT
The judge "thinks" he won't be a danger. Give me a break. What will you "think" when he assaults again because he got away with it once before? I am so sorry for all that has happened to you. I am sorry for the pain, the feelings of guilt and worthlessness, and I'm sorry for the loss of innocence. Thanks. Writing this out and a good, angry cry has worked wonders. I don't live in that kind of pain every day but I don't ever get to forget. I am just at a loss when it comes to this case. Would you be willing to write a letter to this judge? Clearly he does not understand the gravity of this man's crime. It might not change the outcome of this case, but could affect others. I'm so sorry for what happened to you.
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Post by pierkiss on Jun 6, 2016 14:59:05 GMT
Instead, Turner received only six months in jail and three years of probation after a judge worried that a stiffer sentence would have a “severe impact” on the 20-year-old.And what about the severe impact on the young woman's life??? Judge needs to never be allowed to sit in on sexual assult cases ever again. No, this judge needs to be disbenched. He's up for reelection this year. I seriously hope the people in his district are paying attention and put all of their outrage to use and vote this guy off the bench. And I'm hoping that another lawyer has the balls to run against an established judge to get him out (as usually sitting judges run unopposed).
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 6, 2016 14:59:09 GMT
Holy shit! I'm so so so sorry! I wushu could give you a hug!!!
That judge is a supreme asshole.
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Post by Montannie on Jun 6, 2016 15:00:23 GMT
OP, you are a courageous woman!
The story is a disgusting example of rape culture in the US. I read both letters this morning. The probation officer in the case has some serious explaining to do, also. I wonder if the PO is a man?
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Post by scraphappy0501 on Jun 6, 2016 15:00:44 GMT
(((Hugs to you OP))) I couldn't read and not post. I am so sorry for all that you have gone through. You are a very strong woman and never forget that.
This whole case makes me sick to my stomach and the father's statement just adds to that. If there ever was a time I wanted to beat the stupid out of someone this is that time. Both the son and the father are a complete waste of oxygen. I believe there is a special place in hell for people like that.
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Post by scraplette on Jun 6, 2016 15:03:13 GMT
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Post by 3jaysanc on Jun 6, 2016 15:03:26 GMT
Thanks. Writing this out and a good, angry cry has worked wonders. I don't live in that kind of pain every day but I don't ever get to forget. I am just at a loss when it comes to this case. Would you be willing to write a letter to this judge? Clearly he does not understand the gravity of this man's crime. It might not change the outcome of this case, but could affect others. I'm so sorry for what happened to you. I like this idea. It is proactive, especially in a time that I feel particularly helpless. I won't be able to write or describe what happened as eloquently as the victim did in her letter to the rapist but it is certainly worth the effort.
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Post by Merge on Jun 6, 2016 15:07:19 GMT
I am so sorry. This whole case is a travesty. I hope the judge is not re-elected to his seat.
One wonders, if the defendant was a young black man from a junior college or no college at all, if the sentence would have been much harsher.
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Post by sueg on Jun 6, 2016 15:07:59 GMT
I like this idea. It is proactive, especially in a time that I feel particularly helpless. I won't be able to write or describe what happened as eloquently as the victim did in her letter to the rapist but it is certainly worth the effort. What you wrote in your first post is very eloquent and powerful. I am so sorry you had to go through that, and that this case has brought it back so strongly to you. I was stunned when I read the father's and the judge's comments on this case. It just reinforces that there really is a 'culture of rape' out there, and does nothing to stop young men thinking this is OK behaviour.
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Post by shevy on Jun 6, 2016 15:11:41 GMT
And what makes it worse is how the media portrays it. His Stanford swimming photo is used, not his mug shot. The Washington Post talks of his swimming abilities. This is a second level of victimization that each victim goes through. Those things have nothing to do with the violence that he did perpetrated on that victim.
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Post by trollie on Jun 6, 2016 15:12:50 GMT
There is a change.org petition asking for this judge's removal: Petition
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 15:15:08 GMT
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Post by shevy on Jun 6, 2016 15:17:12 GMT
That Washington Post article is being vilified all over the internet today. Unbelievable! Makes me so angry. It should be. It is horrible.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jun 6, 2016 15:19:25 GMT
So sorry to read of your hideous experience OP.
He is a rapist and should serve his time. The fact that he is a champion swimmer has nothing to do with the price of kippers, but there seems to be some sort of hidden message that this should entitle him to behave the way he did.
No. Rape is rape, however you dress it up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 15:19:27 GMT
I am so sorry this happened to you....you are brave to share that with us....
This judge needs to be removed...I just signed the petition.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 6, 2016 15:22:42 GMT
Thank you for sharing your story op. The only silver lining I see is that he's not permitted to return to Stanford and his conviction is against the USA Swimming code of contact preventing him from participating in the Olympic trials. At least some organizations don't excuse rapists.
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Post by gryroagain on Jun 6, 2016 15:33:50 GMT
Her statement is breathtakingly beautiful. I cried.
I am wishing very nasty things on that judge and criminal at this moment.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 6, 2016 15:36:15 GMT
I just read her entire statement. She is brilliant and amazing and I hope that this reaches epic proportions.
What he did, his lawyer did, and then the judge--criminal at best.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 15:40:14 GMT
I sit right next to you on the bench. I am almost afraid to read the victim statement and afraid of what memories it will unearth (that I have been able to barely bury after 26+ years)
It is appalling... both the judge's sentencing AND the fathers statement of 20 minutes.....
I desperately hope he loses any appeals -- lack of remorse from both him and his father should be considered. Neither seemed to have learned anything from this!
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Post by mamastone on Jun 6, 2016 15:40:40 GMT
I'm so sorry for what happened to you. You are so courageous to share it here, thank you. (((Hugs)))
That whole situation is so tragic - for the poor girl, the miscarriage of justice, and the fact that affluenza is running so rampant.
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Post by RosieKat on Jun 6, 2016 15:41:11 GMT
Would you be willing to write a letter to this judge? Clearly he does not understand the gravity of this man's crime. It might not change the outcome of this case, but could affect others. I'm so sorry for what happened to you. I like this idea. It is proactive, especially in a time that I feel particularly helpless. I won't be able to write or describe what happened as eloquently as the victim did in her letter to the rapist but it is certainly worth the effort. Frankly, I think what you have already written was perhaps more eloquent. I hear the pain much more so in what you wrote. Thank you for your bravery in sharing that horrific event and how it has shattered your peace for far, far too long.
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