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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 0:01:11 GMT
Is there a labour standards in the state? There are laws here about workers working alone. Reporting that route could get them heavily fined where I am.
Yes, there are labor laws -- both federal and state level, but none about working alone. Actually it can be seen as gender discrimination if you state that only a male can work alone.
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Post by Eddie-n-Harley on Jun 7, 2016 0:08:17 GMT
I was very concerned for her safety. Sadly, we live in an era where random shootings are becoming commonplace. I emailed Denny's corporate office explaining the situation, but I haven't heard back from them. WWYD? I'm not sure, but I think Denny's locations may be owned by franchisees? If it's not out of the way, you might go back and get the business card of the owner (I think they're usually sitting at the register) and give that person a call or an email... Even if it isn't the owner, it's going to be one of the upper managers who either should have been responding to the waitress's calls, or they know who SHOULD HAVE been responding.
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Post by grammanisi on Jun 7, 2016 0:24:20 GMT
What would the police do? Normally the police have emergency contact numbers, which might have been different from the numbers the waitress had.
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Post by Spongemom Scrappants on Jun 7, 2016 0:54:08 GMT
I work part-time for a jewelry store. Several years ago - when I was a relatively new employee there - I got a call on my cell phone in the middle of the night.
The jewelry store had been broken into and the police were called by the alarm company. They could not reach the owners at the numbers they had and even sent a squad car to their address only to find no one lived there. The police went through paperwork there and found my number as an employee and called me at 3 am. The officer asked me to come in and take responsibility as I was the only one they could reach (the police could not leave as the store was no longer secure due to the break-in).
I gave them the cell number I had for the owners and told them the neighborhood I knew them to live in, but they confirmed they had tried both with no success.
I refused to come in as there was no way I was taking responsibility for an unsecured jewelry store in the middle store in the middle of the night as a mere part-time employee.
Later that morning when we all did get to work, I discovered the owners had never updated their address with the alarm company or police after moving! In fact, although aggravated by the break-in, they seemed supremely unworried by the stunning lack of proper follow-through with what I considered to be an emergency.
I feel for that poor employee left alone at night. She was really between a rock and hard place. I hope her management responds better than mine did and initiates a proper plan for what should happen if that ever occurs again.
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Post by berty on Jun 7, 2016 2:25:11 GMT
At this point I think I'd call corporate and if I got nowhere there I'd head to social media. That's the best way to get their attention. These days businesses seem to respond quicker if you involve their Facebook page.
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Post by berty on Jun 7, 2016 2:31:59 GMT
I probably would have put a huge closed sign on the door and waited in my car. ETA: I would have had a huge piece of their silk chocolate pie and then put the sign up and waited in my car. My local Denny's stopped serving pies because they weren't selling enough. I'm still in mourning over their coconut cream one.
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Post by txdancermom on Jun 7, 2016 2:53:36 GMT
I feel for the employee, but I would have done the same in her position. And bless you for checking up on her. Management needs to know that there is a problem.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 7, 2016 3:10:09 GMT
At this point I'd be emailing corporate until they responded. If it were my restaurant, the manager or managers would be fired because providing staff continuity IS their job. Frankly a huge part of their job. And if they can't do their job then why pay them.
Last night, if it were in my town i would have called police non emergency number. They would have increased patrols, done what they could. They are pretty good here about things like that. However if it were actually in a high crime area then frankly the police wouldn't really have the time to deal with it.
If it were my child she would be giving notice.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 7, 2016 4:32:01 GMT
I probably would have put a huge closed sign on the door and waited in my car. ETA: I would have had a huge piece of their silk chocolate pie and then put the sign up and waited in my car. My local Denny's stopped serving pies because they weren't selling enough. I'm still in mourning over their coconut cream one. Ha! I think I was confusing VI for Denny's. They are right next to each other.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 4:38:11 GMT
At this point I'd be emailing corporate until they responded. If it were my restaurant, the manager or managers would be fired because providing staff continuity IS their job. Frankly a huge part of their job. And if they can't do their job then why pay them. Last night, if it were in my town i would have called police non emergency number. They would have increased patrols, done what they could. They are pretty good here about things like that. However if it were actually in a high crime area then frankly the police wouldn't really have the time to deal with it. If it were my child she would be giving notice. The police non-emergency number is not usually staffed 24 hours/day.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 7, 2016 10:06:57 GMT
At this point I'd be emailing corporate until they responded. If it were my restaurant, the manager or managers would be fired because providing staff continuity IS their job. Frankly a huge part of their job. And if they can't do their job then why pay them. Last night, if it were in my town i would have called police non emergency number. They would have increased patrols, done what they could. They are pretty good here about things like that. However if it were actually in a high crime area then frankly the police wouldn't really have the time to deal with it. If it were my child she would be giving notice. The police non-emergency number is not usually staffed 24 hours/day. Ours is. It goes to a 24 hour switchboard. You learn odd things on scout tours of the police station. Lol I guess they could choose not to answer it, but it will show up in the dispatch center.
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Post by raindancer on Jun 7, 2016 10:41:17 GMT
My dad was a cop and he would have not left her alone, being the father of daughters.
Can you imagine if she told some sick Pervy drunk guy she was there alone and closed? (Because in my town Dennys was always full of yuck drunks in the middle of the night)? She could easily be the vicTim of assault or rape in those circumstances. I agree that the police should be called. She had no way to secure the building or get ahold of someone who could and she was by virtue of being a woman alone in the middle of the night at high risk of being harmed
That sucks. I hope that she was ok and that there is a satisfactory resolution. And to the PP who said she doesn't get paid enough, for sure! Two nights she doesn't get tips either. So she is possibly working for 2-3 bucks an hour to secure an unlocked business alone all night with no way to protect herself. Not worth it.
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Post by Jamie on Jun 7, 2016 10:45:59 GMT
I think at that point, if I were the waitress, I'd call 911. Let them beat up on the management. 911 for what? That's for life and death emergencies. Her life wasn't in danger. Her co-workers didn't show up for work. She was hired to work and so she stayed but I assume she was unable to work the kitchen and serve food by herself. I don't think it's against the law for a female to work by herself at night is it? Why exactly would 911 have to be called? 911 in my city isn't just for life and death. Don't know if that's the case everywhere, but maybe it is for this location as well. maybe the police would have a contact or possibly be able to send someone out so that poor girl wasn't sitting there all alone in a bad neighborhood
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Post by mallie on Jun 7, 2016 11:11:22 GMT
1. That woman needs to go out and get a new job. Asap.
2. I would be contacting corporate to ask about staffing policies. I find it impossible to believe a large company like Denny's would not have minimum staffing standards of two or more at all times. Because of the possibility not only of robbery, but employee theft. It is also a huge liability for a retail/restaurant to have only one person duty. Aside from the potential for theft and violence, there is also the issue of accidental workplace injury. If she fell and hit her head and there was no one there to cAll for aid, for example, the company's liability is much greater. (Which I know because it happened to me and my boss who refused to have a second person on duty got in trouble, as well as the organization for not ensuring proper staffing numbers were achieved.)
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 7, 2016 12:13:34 GMT
Brilliant! I am too old to think of social media - that seems to get attention in a hurry. And announce to the world that this Denny's location has the doors unlocked while it's currently unstaffed ? Yep, that'll get some attention quick! I don't think she'd be foolish enough to give the location - I hope!
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 7, 2016 12:15:08 GMT
I think at that point, if I were the waitress, I'd call 911. Let them beat up on the management. 911 for what? That's for life and death emergencies. Her life wasn't in danger. Her co-workers didn't show up for work. She was hired to work and so she stayed but I assume she was unable to work the kitchen and serve food by herself. I don't think it's against the law for a female to work by herself at night is it? Why exactly would 911 have to be called? I disagree. 911 is to report problems as well as for emergencies. In my community, there is no non-emergency line. They will tell you to call 911.
I think a woman alone in a restaurant at night is dangerous. My opinion.
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Post by STBC on Jun 7, 2016 13:44:51 GMT
I can't believe that the two other employees left her there alone! I can't believe there wasn't a manager on duty. The last shift manager should have stayed until another manager came in to take over at the very least. I'm not sure, but I think Denny's locations may be owned by franchisees? Not all locations are franchised. We have two in town and one is a corporate-owned location. I definitely would have contacted Corporate and most likely the police to let them know about the situation.
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Post by flute4peace on Jun 7, 2016 14:19:03 GMT
I don't know what I would have done, but if I was her in that situation, I think I would be calling the manager of the restaurant and demanding either they would be coming to the restaurant with me, or I might call the police and ask them about the safety of such a situation. Perhaps?? There are probably people who work in gas stations, etc. who work by themselves in the middle of the night, but I'm assuming they have some training on what to do if anything bad happens because it's part of their job to be alone-- and hopefully they have a way to lock the door if necessary. For there to NOT be something like that in this case is pretty horrible, in my opinion. ------------------------------------------------- Now that I've talked myself through that whole scenario, I think if I was a customer like you were, I would probably e-mail or call corporate about it. Because I really do think it's a (bad) management issue for that restaurant (hopefully it's not a corporate policy!), and hopefully (maybe?) my contacting the corporate office could help fix that. She couldn't reach the manager and she knows the situation is unsafe. What would you expect the police to do? Stay there with her to ensure she's safe, and send a unit to management/co-worker's house to get their butts out of bed. It would also protect her from liability should there be a robbery or things turning up missing.
I wouldn't have thought twice about calling the police. In fact, it would have been the first thing I did, and then stayed with her until they arrived.
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Post by littlemama on Jun 7, 2016 14:40:09 GMT
Is there a labour standards in the state? There are laws here about workers working alone. Reporting that route could get them heavily fined where I am.
Yes, there are labor laws -- both federal and state level, but none about working alone. Actually it can be seen as gender discrimination if you state that only a male can work alone.
Actually, in my state there are laws about working alone - for younger workers only. Implemented after a teen was murdered closing down a pizza place alone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 14:48:38 GMT
I think she should have invited 30 of her friends and family to keep her company with a $1 all you can eat special...best to take some money for it.
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Post by melanell on Jun 7, 2016 15:25:04 GMT
I probably would have put a huge closed sign on the door and waited in my car. ETA: I would have had a huge piece of their silk chocolate pie and then put the sign up and waited in my car. That's a good idea. A nice compromise if she felt unable or unwilling to just leave the restaurant open. She'd be there for her shift, be able to keep an eye on things (and call the police if anything went wrong, because she certainly shouldn't try to confront anyone herself), and still be in a safer situation than sitting out on the step alone.
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Post by melanell on Jun 7, 2016 15:32:18 GMT
911 for what? That's for life and death emergencies. Her life wasn't in danger. Her co-workers didn't show up for work. She was hired to work and so she stayed but I assume she was unable to work the kitchen and serve food by herself. I don't think it's against the law for a female to work by herself at night is it? Why exactly would 911 have to be called? I agree that it isn't an emergency, but perhaps it could turn into one. Exactly. I have called 911 twice for situations that could turn into emergencies. I know the non-emergency number for my own local area, but I don't know it for everyplace I happen to go. Once I called because some truck ahead of me on a 4 lane highways had managed to lose 2 mattresses and some assorted lumber all over the road. You had people going 60, 70 miles an hour and then out of no where all this stuff was everywhere and people were slamming on brakes and trying to change lanes at the very last second. It was definitely a situation where someone could get hurt or killed, even if no one was hurt yet. A police car sitting out ahead of the mess with flashing lights would be all that was necessary to have drivers slow down and be more cautious until it was cleaned up. I called another time because I was in a car that broke down smack in the middle of an expressway. We could not leave the vehicle safely, and we were sitting ducks until someone arrived. We called AAA for a tow truck, but called 911 to request a police cruiser. And that's exactly what they did. They sent an officer to block our lane a bit down from us with flashing lights until we were safely cleared from the area.
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Post by melanell on Jun 7, 2016 15:33:21 GMT
She couldn't reach the manager and she knows the situation is unsafe. What would you expect the police to do? Stay there with her to ensure she's safe, and send a unit to management/co-worker's house to get their butts out of bed. It would also protect her from liability should there be a robbery or things turning up missing.
I wouldn't have thought twice about calling the police. In fact, it would have been the first thing I did, and then stayed with her until they arrived.
Same here. The police in our are would have absolutely shown up.
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Post by melanell on Jun 7, 2016 15:36:45 GMT
Before calling 911 I'd try to call the alarm company (assuming they have one), they would have emergency contact information (likely more than what the waitress had access to). I wonder if she would have had this number, though. Unless they had a sign outdoors with the number on it, I can't see that being info they would have given a waitress as standard info for her to know, kwim? I worked in a few different public places in my life, and I didn't even know the alarm company at all for all but one of them, never mind had a number available or knew where to find the number. (I also didn't know where the alarms were for all but one place.) The one place was a very small locally owned business that was always staffed by only one person, so when I was that person I did have to set the alarm, so in that case I knew all about the alarm and the company. But the larger places where there were layers of management above me? I had no clue.
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Post by berty on Jun 7, 2016 20:32:24 GMT
My local Denny's stopped serving pies because they weren't selling enough. I'm still in mourning over their coconut cream one. Ha! I think I was confusing VI for Denny's. They are right next to each other. That's ok. In my mind, as long as I don't have to bake it all pie is good pie - no matter where it's from.
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Post by jenjie on Jun 7, 2016 21:46:34 GMT
I am really interested in this story and hope we get a follow-up. i want to know who fell asleep at the post and what the outcome is.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 7, 2016 23:10:17 GMT
I am assuming that several people didn't show up to work or call in to let the manner know they wouldn't be coming in. I would imagine that at least three to four people would be needed for the night shift. I can see it happening. Stuff happens. You just need to know the plan.
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