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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 17:34:31 GMT
The words aren't used because I need to, they just come to mind sometimes and since they don't mean anything special to me I just use them as I might any other swear-type words. I'm rarely in the company of anyone religious (I can only think of a few people who might consider themselves religious) so it's very rarely an issue. Yes, the UK is rather more a secular society than the US. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of people I have frequent contact with who are religious and go to church. One is another school mum and the other a co-worker. Terms like hell, OMG, JC, are used without any conscious reference to religion at all here. Honestly I never gave such terms any thought at all until I started frequenting 2ps. What fruitysuet and Gar said. I don't use the OMG myself I usually say Oh my goodness, but I think that's more out of habit than a conscious decision not to say it. I don't class holy as a religious word either. ( I do go to church,not weekly but I do go) I very often say holy moly. But I would never in a million years say the f, c or the b word and I'd find it quite offensive if someone used it in my company, the c would be the pinnacle of a potty mouth IMO. I can't recall hearing anyone using the c word. I have heard youngsters,if I'm out somewhere in public using the f word. I just tut loudly! I quite often say sugar if something has gone wrong/broken. I mutter idiot under my breath at another driver. I used to sometimes say bloody hell but I soon stopped that when DD was about 3 and I heard her say " I can't get this bloody dress on this dolly" I'll be honest I had to go out the room to laugh, it was quite funny listening to this angelic 3 year old, not just saying it but she knew exactly where to use it in a sentence. I chose to ignored and not make a big thing of it,she obviously didn't know that it was a swear word.Bringing it to her attention would have made a big thing of it IMO. I never heard it any more.
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Post by gar on Aug 2, 2014 18:01:48 GMT
Why use words that aren't needed if they aren't conveying something either informational or emotional? So why not use Zeus or Thor or Mohammad? Since they don't mean anything either I see no reason to change.I don't think I particularly use swearing to convey anything informational....its more a release of frustration and the old favourites usually come to mind and do the job quite well
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Post by dulcemama on Aug 2, 2014 18:22:28 GMT
Interesting. It's considered pretty mild where I live. I wonder if there are areas of the U.S. where it is a major swear.
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Post by Native New Yorker on Aug 2, 2014 18:25:32 GMT
freak what the flippetydoodah! oh my word
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Post by anxiousmom on Aug 2, 2014 19:43:25 GMT
However, if someone curses habitually or can't get through a conversation without using expletives or blackguards, I quickly find myself avoiding that person. I've also passed on hiring otherwise qualified employees because they clearly had a potty mouth that came through even in the interview process. I think that I am, gosh, I don't want to say smart enough because I don't want to imply that I am smarter than anyone else-because I am SO not...but for lack of a better term, I am smart enough to know how to use speech appropriate to the circumstances. The language/word choice I would use for an interview is going to be vastly different than the language/word choices I would make for conversations with friends. I can cuss to make a sailor blush. But that does not mean that I do all the time, or even some of the times and pretty much have enough self-control to know the difference.
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Post by femalebusiness on Aug 2, 2014 20:06:40 GMT
I can out cuss a sailor. The really nice thing about getting old is that I can just let it fly now. I don't have to hold back because of impressionable kids or office manners and I rarely care what others think of me anymore. There is a freedom that comes with age. I know it must say something negative about me but I just love the word Fuck.
The funny thing is that I have several friends that would never say that word around anyone but me. They are comfortable with me because they have heard me use it. I corrupted them. I am pretty much the same all the time so it doesn't occur to me to curb my language around anyone.
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Aug 2, 2014 20:19:18 GMT
I tend to have a potty mouth always have and I'm sure I always will. I try and watch it around some social settings though but when I would get pissed off at work I would say "son of a biscuit!!" Instead of "son of a bitch" everyone would laugh and be like "we know she is mad when she is letting the biscuits fly"
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Post by BarbaraUK on Aug 2, 2014 20:24:42 GMT
Yes, the UK is rather more a secular society than the US. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of people I have frequent contact with who are religious and go to church. One is another school mum and the other a co-worker. Terms like hell, OMG, JC, are used without any conscious reference to religion at all here. Honestly I never gave such terms any thought at all until I started frequenting 2ps. What fruitysuet and Gar said. I don't use the OMG myself I usually say Oh my goodness, but I think that's more out of habit than a conscious decision not to say it. I don't class holy as a religious word either. ( I do go to church,not weekly but I do go) I very often say holy moly. But I would never in a million years say the f, c or the b word and I'd find it quite offensive if someone used it in my company, the c would be the pinnacle of a potty mouth IMO. I can't recall hearing anyone using the c word. I have heard youngsters,if I'm out somewhere in public using the f word. I just tut loudly! I quite often say sugar if something has gone wrong/broken. I mutter idiot under my breath at another driver. I used to sometimes say bloody hell but I soon stopped that when DD was about 3 and I heard her say " I can't get this bloody dress on this dolly" I'll be honest I had to go out the room to laugh, it was quite funny listening to this angelic 3 year old, not just saying it but she knew exactly where to use it in a sentence. I chose to ignored and not make a big thing of it,she obviously didn't know that it was a swear word.Bringing it to her attention would have made a big thing of it IMO. I never heard it any more. And I rethought saying 'bloody hell' when my DD was about 5 - on the walk to school we had to cross a busy road and my DD said 'the road is bloody busy today'.......to a policeman waiting to cross the road with us who was talking to her!! Both of us were hard pushed not to laugh but nobody made a big thing of it and that was that.
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Aug 2, 2014 20:28:31 GMT
Interesting. It's considered pretty mild where I live. I wonder if there are areas of the U.S. where it is a major swear. Funny, it ranks pretty high on my bad word scale for some reason. I have no idea why. My mother was a swearer and that was one she would throw at us once in a while (never the f-word, but that one she would - go figure). When I got older and found out what it meant, I used to laugh under my breath - she was basically insulting herself, kwim?
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Post by uksue on Aug 2, 2014 20:29:14 GMT
My Irish friend got me saying 'sugar' instead of sh*t,which works well, and billboards instead of boll**cks, which is taking a while to become a habit! Many Brits say 'bloody hell' and it's considered quite mild, at least where I live and amongst my fiends and family.
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Post by scrappington on Aug 2, 2014 21:05:13 GMT
I say freak instead. So freak that freak this. Freak off. I work at a construction place. I sound like a trucker. There are certain places though I refrain. Freak is my go too
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Post by my3freaks on Aug 2, 2014 21:59:10 GMT
Balls! is one of my favorite. I have a terrible potty mouth. I blame it on my Dad being a truck driver. Douche is probably my most used. My husband, v who says his share of cuss words threatened to get a toilet brush for my mouth the other night. Our kids are teenagers, and I don't censor myself enough! Melanie
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Post by kristalina on Aug 3, 2014 0:15:19 GMT
Why use words that aren't needed if they aren't conveying something either informational or emotional? So why not use Zeus or Thor or Mohammad? why? for me it's habit. Zeus/Thor/Mohammad wouldn't pop into my mind. I was raised by a bunch of foul-mouthed people, so those are the words that are in my head! I'm guessing you were raised by some pretty religious ones, so those are the words in your head. (of course I'm speculating. You could have been raised atheist for all I know and found religion independently of your parents.)
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Post by mdoc on Aug 3, 2014 0:26:17 GMT
When I was little, every time my mother wanted to curse, swear or beat her children (there were 6 of us, and we were brats), she would instead take a deep breath and say "Christopher Columbus discovered America in 1492." A very strange substitute for the F-Bomb, but you can be sure her children knew from a very young age when Columbus arrived in America.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 0:27:34 GMT
I don't use the F word but have been known to refer to someone as a twat. Should really try to get rid of that word.
In place of OMG I would normally say Oh my wordless Wednesday. I have no idea where I even got that from.
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Post by BeckyTech on Aug 3, 2014 2:50:31 GMT
I like that, I'll have to remember that. I use freak as well. I'm not sure how to say this without coming across as "holier than thou", but to be honest what got me out of the heavy duty cussing mode years ago was when I was with my sister one day when she was driving. I realized that I thought it was a rather not very classy/attractive trait to me and resolved to clean up my mouth. <shrug> To each their own, I don't cringe or shrink when I'm with a cusser, but I think more creative expressions are fun.
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Post by mcscrapper on Aug 3, 2014 2:54:06 GMT
Fork! Sheet! Beach! My mom's and my favorite....Son of a beach! Sheet!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2014 3:07:48 GMT
Why use words that aren't needed if they aren't conveying something either informational or emotional? So why not use Zeus or Thor or Mohammad? why? for me it's habit. Zeus/Thor/Mohammad wouldn't pop into my mind. I was raised by a bunch of foul-mouthed people, so those are the words that are in my head! I'm guessing you were raised by some pretty religious ones, so those are the words in your head. (of course I'm speculating. You could have been raised atheist for all I know and found religion independently of your parents.) I can't recall ever hearing anyone in my extended family (grandparents, parents, cousins) ever cursing for any reason. Part of my family is conservative Christian. Dad's side of the family... religion was a topic forbidden by his dad. I don't know what that side of the family believes even though I see dad's sisters regularly. I have never heard anyone from that side curse either. I have a distinct feeling the ghost of grandparent's passed would rise up to correct the mess. I've just always wondered why so much of the chosen curse words were related to Christianity instead of Greek, Roman, Norse religions. And why sex to express anger? To me it feels like an encouragement of a rape culture. I understand if you grew up hearing it all the time it is what is in your head. What is in the head is what pops out of the mouth (out of the heart the mouth speaks is how to Bible expresses it) But do you ever think about the broader ramifications of what is being expressed?
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Post by kristalina on Aug 3, 2014 6:07:32 GMT
Yes, that is why I asked the original question. When you say broader ramifications, do you mean offending someone or something bigger, like committing a sin?
I wanted to know if I were unwittingly offending someone with my language. I'm more likely to use my filter if I know that I'm being offensive.
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Post by tincin on Aug 3, 2014 9:35:22 GMT
I am no help myself, have a horrible potty mouth but my kids are adults and I try to behave myself in public. I must say you've been offered some great substitutes.
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Post by gar on Aug 3, 2014 9:51:58 GMT
why? for me it's habit. Zeus/Thor/Mohammad wouldn't pop into my mind. I was raised by a bunch of foul-mouthed people, so those are the words that are in my head! I'm guessing you were raised by some pretty religious ones, so those are the words in your head. (of course I'm speculating. You could have been raised atheist for all I know and found religion independently of your parents.) I can't recall ever hearing anyone in my extended family (grandparents, parents, cousins) ever cursing for any reason. Part of my family is conservative Christian. Dad's side of the family... religion was a topic forbidden by his dad. I don't know what that side of the family believes even though I see dad's sisters regularly. I have never heard anyone from that side curse either. I have a distinct feeling the ghost of grandparent's passed would rise up to correct the mess. I've just always wondered why so much of the chosen curse words were related to Christianity instead of Greek, Roman, Norse religions. And why sex to express anger? To me it feels like an encouragement of a rape culture. I understand if you grew up hearing it all the time it is what is in your head. What is in the head is what pops out of the mouth (out of the heart the mouth speaks is how to Bible expresses it) But do you ever think about the broader ramifications of what is being expressed? For better or worse, I just don't analyse it that much. I don't go around swearing in my day to day conversations but if I stub my toe or someone cuts me up in traffic a swear word will be used without any ramifications imo. I very rarely use the F word, and if I do it's not out loud in public so I don't think my use of it has any ramifications. In society as a whole? That's a whole 'nother discussion
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Post by phoenixcov on Aug 3, 2014 13:06:51 GMT
Bloody oath we do!! You just reminded me, a friend that I grew up with always used to say "Bloomin heck" instead of "Bloody hell" ! Is it true that for the Brits, saying bloody hell is as bad as the F word? Bloody hell is tame compared to the F word. My personal fav is "sodding hell". As Gar mentioned around here Bollocks and arse are frequently used. Filter on when driving with passengers and filter totally off when alone.
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Post by edie3 on Aug 3, 2014 13:20:07 GMT
My favorite non cussing phrase is mother of pearl.
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Post by anxiousmom on Aug 3, 2014 13:22:19 GMT
My favorite non cussing phrase is mother of pearl. This is one of my favorite "in public" curses. LOL
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Post by edie3 on Aug 3, 2014 13:25:17 GMT
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Post by anxiousmom on Aug 3, 2014 13:38:02 GMT
You know, I have no clue where I picked it up. But it could very well be. My boys loved spongebob.
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Post by Zee on Aug 3, 2014 14:36:18 GMT
I'd look up solutions for how to deal with road rage so you can learn to be more patient and not say a word. Oh come on. You don't drive so you really don't get it. It's frustrating and annoying a lot of the time and probably the most common place for swearing. That doesn't mean she has "road rage" that she needs to seek help for.
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Post by Zee on Aug 3, 2014 14:47:02 GMT
Have you thought about why you swear and if the words you use really do convey your purpose for swearing? I have to admit to coming into this topic as a near teetotaler to swearing. I live in an area where swearing isn't generally considered socially acceptable and my preferred circle of friends are even more likely to not swear. At work is it considered unprofessional and can be reason for disciplinary action. I can go years between my swearing outbursts (which the word of choice happens to be fricative) Extreme displeasure, like when a driver cuts in so close I have to slam on my brakes, gets a primitive sound that is a cross between a growl and an mmmmm that comes through clenched teeth. I expect idiot drivers so they don't ruffle me often. Lololold Are you clutching your great-great-grandmother Astor's pearls in one hand and a Social Register in the other as you type? Must make it difficult. I hope your "Circle" are enjoying an achingly sharp cheddar and a glass of your finest sherry while you all genteely discuss the doings of the day, whose maid had to be let go for stealing the silver, whose professor husband ran off with his grad student, etc. *titter*
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Post by msliz on Aug 3, 2014 15:34:15 GMT
Sometimes I just use a long string of crap crap crap crap crappety crap crappin CRAP !
And, as a pre-diabetic, shshshshshSUGAR and FUdge are actual bad words.
But most of the time I just rely on the classics.
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Post by bellemac on Aug 3, 2014 15:58:36 GMT
Bloody oath we do!! You just reminded me, a friend that I grew up with always used to say "Bloomin heck" instead of "Bloody hell" ! Is it true that for the Brits, saying bloody hell is as bad as the F word? Do'nt know about other Brits but we Scots swear like troopers.
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