erica8
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Post by erica8 on Jun 7, 2016 17:49:27 GMT
So I saw these really cool journals that used old books (like Dr. Seuss, Dick and Jane etc) and cut them, added pages and then used a binder to bind them. I know these binding machines (the cinch, zutter) have a learning curve.
Which do you think is the best for this type of project? What do you like/dislike about the one you have?
Thanks in advance for your help!!
Erica
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Post by papersilly on Jun 7, 2016 17:58:43 GMT
i bind a lot of books and hands down....THE CINCH binding machine is the best.
I have owned all the different kinds that have come out for the scrapbook crowd and one that was made for businesses. it started with the Bind It All. that thing was unstable and not very user friendly when it came to thicker materials. it punched less holes at a time.
When the Cinch came along (finally!), I immediately ditched my BIAs. the Cinch doesn't wobble. it punches more holes at one time. it has a ruler guide and a dial to adjust to the different wire sizes. it punches through chipboard and multiple sheets of paper with ease. I've owned every version of the Cinch and upgrade whenever they add something new to the machine. today I have the round hole and square hole versions.
you can buy the Cinch at Michaels and Hobby Lobby and I think you use a coupon on it. it's worth every penny and I will never go back to any other kind of binding machine.
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Post by Citygirl on Jun 7, 2016 18:56:14 GMT
Thank you for the info. I've had my eye on the Cinch FoREVER. I'm going to buy it this week!
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Post by bluecrafterperson on Jun 7, 2016 22:57:21 GMT
I have the round hole Cinch and stumbled upon this good buy, so I had to purchase the square hole Cinch from this web site. I am in no way connected to this web site, I just purchased the square hole Cinch and received it recently and thought it was a really good buy at $54.99. I don't remember the shipping but thought it was very reasonable. They mailed the Cinch out very quickly. pebblesinmypocket.com/?s=cinch&post_type=product(This is my first time posting on here, so I hope it is ok to post the above link. If not, I'll try to figure out if there is a way to remove it.)
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Post by emeraldfb on Jun 8, 2016 0:24:42 GMT
I have the Cinch too and really love it. I have the round hole from the 1st version and then later I also bought the square hole. It can punch through cardboards as well, so my books have sturdy book covers. Some might not like it since it's bigger, but it's much sturdier and it's very easy to use.
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Post by houston249 on Jun 8, 2016 0:32:31 GMT
I have the round hole Cinch and stumbled upon this good buy, so I had to purchase the square hole Cinch from this web site. I am in no way connected to this web site, I just purchased the square hole Cinch and received it recently and thought it was a really good buy at $54.99. I don't remember the shipping but thought it was very reasonable. They mailed the Cinch out very quickly. pebblesinmypocket.com/?s=cinch&post_type=product(This is my first time posting on here, so I hope it is ok to post the above link. If not, I'll try to figure out if there is a way to remove it.) Welcome! I am sure the link is fine. In fact, enabling is a trait many of us love to see here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 9:30:45 GMT
I love to bind old book covers and turn into new books. I agree with all the sentiments about the Cinch and I don't even own one. I do plan to buy one in the future. I have a Bind-it-All. I do really love it. The longer I have owned it the more I have fallen in love with it. I do agree with paper silly about the BIA wobbly issue. If your not careful you can get pinched by it. Guess how I know this. I dubbed it the Pinch-it-All. I love the small size. This is one of the reasons that I haven't bought a Cinch yet. The Cinch is huge. The Bind-it-All fits well with my other book binding tools. There is a learning curve to the BIA. I had it for years and it took me years to master it. I watched all the videos, read everything at Zutter's site but in the end I started using the Bind-it-All my way and it worked for me. I am dyslexic so I think that was part of the huge learning curve for me. When I want the round hole look I use my Crop-A-Dile. A lot more tedious but works for me at the moment. I am more into the square holes for machine binding than the round hole look. I also like to stitch my bindings too. bluecrafterperson- We all love being enabled here. Keep enabling. Big Welcome to you.
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Post by nitad on Jun 8, 2016 20:52:57 GMT
I've only ever used the Cinch since that's what I have so I can't speak to the other types. I do love my Cinch, I only have the round hole version, it's easy to use and I didn't find much of a learning curve with it at all. The instructions included are very clear and easy to follow.
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Post by AngieandSnoopy on Jun 9, 2016 15:19:17 GMT
I have the Pink Bind it All (2:1) and the Teal round hole Cinch (2:1). I held out and held out and yes, the month after I got the round hole Cinch, they announced the square hole... Since I own the BIA, round Cinch, Wiremate 3:1 and a plastic comb binder, I don't think I need one more. But don't tempt me with a rock bottom clearance price! I still like the tinier square holes the BIA punch better than the huge square holes the Cinch cuts. Both BIA & Cinch are good and have their pluses. I still think the BIA closes the wires better than the Cinch. I usually close the wires of ALL things I bind with the BIA. The BIA has a little tool thing that you slip into it so that you can cut holes closer to the edge. That is important if you want to wire bind cookbooks and music books and want to make sure you don't cut any of the text or music. Cinch cuts too far from the edge in most cases. The good thing is they use the same wires. Most of my wires were bought at Binding Depot, My Binding and I bought some coils for my 3:1 at Best Buy Binding. Most were bought at Binding Depot.com because they have good specials, have the best prices and specials on shipping. Not as much choice of color but I try to buy white so I can sprinkle alcohol ink to add some color and I have used Krylon on occasion. Binding Depot had a sale a few years ago and I got my favorite sizes and one size I wanted at regular price but cheap. I don't have to buy wires anymore, my top shelves have all the 2:1 wires for the BIA/Cinch and the 3:1 Wiremate wires and coils I could ever want. I even got a small box of Spiral-O wires to replace plastic combs, as it was my first binding machine. I honestly like my 3:1 Wiremate best but for some reason, they no longer make wires bigger than 9/16 inch and that just isn't big enough for most things. They do have huge (and I have some) coils but pages turn better with wires and give more stability to the book. I like that it cuts closer to the edge for music books. There was one place, no longer in business, that had bigger wires and I couldn't afford to get them until after they disappeared from the internet. The Wiremate cuts 11 inches at a time and binds the best. Just remember that if you order from those places that you want 2:1 wire for Bind-it-All and Cinch. NOT 3:1. Also the wires are 11 inches long NOT 12 inches like from BIA and Cinch. That isn't a problem, if you are doing something 12 inches, then you just start it so you have 1/2 inch on each side without holes. I have a silly amount of wires BUT when you figure out the much higher price for buying BIA or Cinch wires, I could have bought only a few packages of wires for each large box of wires I have. I live 80 miles from the nearest place that sells wires so it isn't an option for me to pick up wires with 40% off coupons. I only get there once, maybe twice a year and I have other things I want to use coupons for. Ok, more than you EVER wanted to know about wires but maybe this will help some of you make a decision.
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Post by woodysbetty on Jun 9, 2016 20:09:11 GMT
I have a BIA. Love the square holes and small size.....never tried the cinch, the size put me off as I don't do a lot of binding so the smaller profile fit my needs....
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Post by chrispeas on Jun 11, 2016 16:21:50 GMT
I started out with the BIA. Had to have the Cinch because it punched round holes. So now I have both. I have used my BIA to punch holes in acrylic sheets heated with my embossing gun. Worked great! While I like the Cinch, I still use my BIA to close the wires. I feel like I have more control with it. I also ordered a bunch of wires for the Co. mentioned above. Split it with two other gals. The Cinch doesn't really take up that much space. It has a clip to keep it flat. I store standing up.
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Post by ferblover on Jun 11, 2016 17:44:43 GMT
I used my Cinch for the first time yesterday (won't say how long I have had it..) and it was easy and wonderful. Like most things i would watch an online video before starting to kind of get the idea but it really was easy and the directions are pretty much all on the machine itself. I would prefer more spirals than clamp type closures but I might check out the binding sites mentioned above. The one I stumbled on is 2.5:1 pitch though not sure if that works for 2:1? Even my husband said after I showed him "oh hey can yo make me a gardening journal book, that is cool". Big win there!
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Post by AngieandSnoopy on Jun 12, 2016 2:11:29 GMT
I started out with the BIA. Had to have the Cinch because it punched round holes. So now I have both. I have used my BIA to punch holes in acrylic sheets heated with my embossing gun. Worked great! While I like the Cinch, I still use my BIA to close the wires. I feel like I have more control with it. I also ordered a bunch of wires for the Co. mentioned above. Split it with two other gals. The Cinch doesn't really take up that much space. It has a clip to keep it flat. I store standing up. All of the above AND I have also heated acrylic sheets with embossing gun and cut with the BIA.
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Post by AngieandSnoopy on Jun 12, 2016 2:13:33 GMT
I used my Cinch for the first time yesterday (won't say how long I have had it..) and it was easy and wonderful. Like most things i would watch an online video before starting to kind of get the idea but it really was easy and the directions are pretty much all on the machine itself. I would prefer more spirals than clamp type closures but I might check out the binding sites mentioned above. The one I stumbled on is 2.5:1 pitch though not sure if that works for 2:1? Even my husband said after I showed him "oh hey can yo make me a gardening journal book, that is cool". Big win there! Trust me, make sure you only use 2:1 for the BIA or Cinch. It isn't easy to use the wrong size and is never quite right. I have used 4:1 spirals with 3:1 holes but it puts too much pressure on the holes when it is the wrong thing.
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Peamac
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Post by Peamac on Jun 13, 2016 3:34:04 GMT
erica8- can you link the journals you mentioned? I love the idea of using old book covers for new journals!
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Post by papersilly on Jun 13, 2016 18:24:14 GMT
erica8 - can you link the journals you mentioned? I love the idea of using old book covers for new journals! I've done tons of journals this way too. totally easy. just carefully cut off the top and bottom covers of the books. if you don't like the raw edges, you can put washi tape over it to give it a cleaner finish. you can also modge podge the edges if you like the raw-but-sealed look. you gather the pages you want to use, hole punch them, and use the Bind it All, Cinch, or whatever to wire bind them.
lately I've been using the whole book cover to make journals. here is an example:
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