freebird
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Post by freebird on Jun 8, 2016 16:22:42 GMT
I have a NO SOLICITING sign right on my door and I've had 2 this week trying to sell me makeup and jewelry. The jewelry kids are always from thailand or thereabouts and it's always a "mission trip". The make up guy came twice in a month... same guy. Second time I told him that I said no the last time!! They always act offended when I say no thank you.
I'm in a foul gd mood today so how do I shut this bullshit down before I have to ask you guys for bail.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 8, 2016 16:25:56 GMT
Talk in a made up language.
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freebird
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Post by freebird on Jun 8, 2016 16:36:12 GMT
Talk in a made up language. lol.. Yeah, but I don't even want them to come in the door honestly.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 8, 2016 16:37:39 GMT
Right, but unless you're standing outside asking what they want, they are probably going to come in.
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Post by mrssmith on Jun 8, 2016 16:38:20 GMT
Are there any solicitation ordinances in your town? If so, you could point these out to these individuals (if the ordinances provide any type of protection for business owners).
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~Lauren~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Jun 8, 2016 16:44:33 GMT
I probably get snotty and say "can you read or are you just rude?"
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The Birdhouse Lady
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Jun 8, 2016 17:19:29 GMT
Get a bigger sign?
I swear some people are so dense that probably still wouldn't work.
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on Jun 8, 2016 17:20:42 GMT
People like this do not care about your sign. They see it, read it and then come on in anyway. While I wouldn't be straight up rude to them, the first thing I would say is, "Sorry, we do not accept ANY solicitations." If they persist, then get rude. It just comes hand in hand with running a business. Don't get upset about it, just know it's going to happen and decide that you will not let it get to you.
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NoWomanNoCry
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Post by NoWomanNoCry on Jun 8, 2016 17:21:35 GMT
Start barking at them...they will think you're crazy and leave lol
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Post by scrapsotime on Jun 8, 2016 17:39:25 GMT
Start selling to them. They walked in the door of your business. Don't respond to any of their sales talk just counter with your own.
The only ones my husband doesn't mind are the restaurants close by that bring samples to drum up business. lol
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Post by Menjiness on Jun 8, 2016 17:47:50 GMT
I don't answer the door even if it is wide open, same with the window. I will walk right by it and ignore. There is a sign and I chose to ignore you.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 8, 2016 18:36:02 GMT
Start selling to them. They walked in the door of your business. Don't respond to any of their sales talk just counter with your own. The only ones my husband doesn't mind are the restaurants close by that bring samples to drum up business. lol That's a REALLY good idea!
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Post by kamper on Jun 8, 2016 19:32:17 GMT
Are there any solicitation ordinances in your town? If so, you could point these out to these individuals (if the ordinances provide any type of protection for business owners). ^^^This^^^^ The fine for not having a permit and soliciting was $10k for the first offense in the town I use to live in. You can bet that these outfits don't have permits.
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Post by ametallichick on Jun 8, 2016 20:19:02 GMT
Start selling to them. They walked in the door of your business. Don't respond to any of their sales talk just counter with your own. We have a window cleaning business and when my dh was answering phones while in the field, he would do this: "oh, you need a window cleaner?" "You need an estimate?" "How many windows do you have?" They would be so confused they would just hang up! I answer the phone now, which is good because I can block the call. If I were you (OP) I would get rude. If you have told them not to come in, it's go time!
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 8, 2016 20:24:15 GMT
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Post by Scrapper100 on Jun 8, 2016 20:43:05 GMT
I hate when the person admits they saw the sign but somehow thought they were special enough that I would be interested -urg. It's bad enough at home but a business that's nuts.
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Post by anniefb on Jun 8, 2016 20:43:34 GMT
Talk in a made up language. I like this one
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freebird
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Post by freebird on Jun 8, 2016 20:48:38 GMT
Start selling to them. They walked in the door of your business. Don't respond to any of their sales talk just counter with your own. The only ones my husband doesn't mind are the restaurants close by that bring samples to drum up business. lolI wouldn't complain about those. No one around here is that clever I swear. Hard to get businesses to network here AT ALL or try anything new and creative. Sometimes my town is just very meh.
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Post by Merge on Jun 8, 2016 21:07:00 GMT
I wonder if these are the kids who get dropped off in an area for the day and are required to sell so much in a day in order to eat that night, or some such. There are stories about that here with door-to-door solicitors.
I'd call the police non-emergency number and tell them you're concerned about the kids' welfare. If it's a scam, the police probably already know about it and can tell you as much. Or if they don't know, maybe there's something they can do to get these folks out of town.
No disrespect to the 'Ville, but it seems an odd place for a group from overseas to take a mission trip.
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freebird
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Post by freebird on Jun 8, 2016 21:44:30 GMT
I wonder if these are the kids who get dropped off in an area for the day and are required to sell so much in a day in order to eat that night, or some such. There are stories about that here with door-to-door solicitors. I'd call the police non-emergency number and tell them you're concerned about the kids' welfare. If it's a scam, the police probably already know about it and can tell you as much. Or if they don't know, maybe there's something they can do to get these folks out of town. No disrespect to the 'Ville, but it seems an odd place for a group from overseas to take a mission trip. I know, right? There's not much mission work in selling jewelry. Or maybe they're selling jewelry to take a mission. I don't know, honestly, their english is always very broken. I had a SECOND one come in about an hour ago. A police car went by and all the traffic was pulled over. I heard a door shut (this is on a road with no parking) and I looked out to see a guy get out of a van and walk off. A few min later this second kid comes in. Of course my dogs have decided to bark their head off at anyone that's brown or brownish (we're working on this behavior) so it was hard to talk to him but basically I wasn't as polite, told him I told his friend no earlier and no soliciting was allowed here. All he got was that someone else was here, asked me 3 times. Seemed upset and left. So you're probably on to something.
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Post by mlynn on Jun 8, 2016 21:55:21 GMT
They may have no idea what solicitor means. Or they may think it refers to prostitution.
I think it has more to do with chutzpah. If they honor your sign, they gain nothing. So if they do not honor it they have nothing to lose and potentially something to gain. They probably need only a small percentage of people to buy to be making it worth their while. I remember hearing years ago that mass mailings only need 1 in many hundreds of people to respond in order to make a profit. It is all a numbers game.
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Post by librarylady on Jun 8, 2016 22:21:15 GMT
Fortunately our city has an ordnance that the organization must get a permit. Ask to see the permit. No permit = call to police.
Additionally, our city has a list of locations to which one must NOT solicit--even with a permit. I am registered on that list and will call.
Most of the time I just do not answer the door. If I do, I immediately ask for permit and the list....tell them to find our address on the list and leave my porch.
In your case, since you have a business and they get in--ask for the permit and then offer to call the police because they are there. if someone is dropping the kids off--90% of the time those organizations are shady, so I'd report them also.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 8, 2016 22:52:08 GMT
Try signs with multiple languages??
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freebird
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Post by freebird on Jun 8, 2016 22:58:43 GMT
Fortunately our city has an ordnance that the organization must get a permit. Ask to see the permit. No permit = call to police. Additionally, our city has a list of locations to which one must NOT solicit--even with a permit. I am registered on that list and will call. Most of the time I just do not answer the door. If I do, I immediately ask for permit and the list....tell them to find our address on the list and leave my porch. In your case, since you have a business and they get in--ask for the permit and then offer to call the police because they are there. if someone is dropping the kids off--90% of the time those organizations are shady, so I'd report them also.
I called public safety and found out they are required to have a permit, so from this point on, I'm going to ask for that when they walk in the door.
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Post by Lexica on Jun 8, 2016 23:16:26 GMT
They may have no idea what solicitor means. Or they may think it refers to prostitution. I think it has more to do with chutzpah. If they honor your sign, they gain nothing. So if they do not honor it they have nothing to lose and potentially something to gain. They probably need only a small percentage of people to buy to be making it worth their while. I remember hearing years ago that mass mailings only need 1 in many hundreds of people to respond in order to make a profit. It is all a numbers game. I have seen this several times. My parents had a sign up on their front door at home when I was a teen. I would answer the door to people selling everything from insurance, coupon books, car washes, and magazines, etc. I would point to the sign and the number of people, mostly young adults, but several that were in their 30s at least, had no idea what the sign meant. One kid got all huffy with me and said I would probably get better results with a sign that said, "No Sales People" instead of the "too fancy" No Solicitors sign. It is sad, but true. SaveSave
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 9, 2016 2:42:21 GMT
They may have no idea what solicitor means. Or they may think it refers to prostitution. I think it has more to do with chutzpah. If they honor your sign, they gain nothing. So if they do not honor it they have nothing to lose and potentially something to gain. They probably need only a small percentage of people to buy to be making it worth their while. I remember hearing years ago that mass mailings only need 1 in many hundreds of people to respond in order to make a profit. It is all a numbers game. I have seen this several times. My parents had a sign up on their front door at home when I was a teen. I would answer the door to people selling everything from insurance, coupon books, car washes, and magazines, etc. I would point to the sign and the number of people, mostly young adults, but several that were in their 30s at least, had no idea what the sign meant. One kid got all huffy with me and said I would probably get better results with a sign that said, "No Sales People" instead of the "too fancy" No Solicitors sign. It is sad, but true. SaveSaveOkay then, perhaps one like this might work: ABSOLUTELY NO SOLICITING We have found Jesus we love our vacuum we know who we are voting for we gave at the office and my kid is selling all the same crap you are! Or maybe this one. WELCOME SOLICITORS! This household (workplace) charges $20 per minute to listen to sales pitches, religious messages and any other speech you are offering today. THESE FEES ARE PAYABLE IN ADVANCE. You hereby acknowledge your agreement to the terms above by knocking on the door or ringing the doorbell. Thank you!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 2:54:33 GMT
Fortunately our city has an ordnance that the organization must get a permit. Ask to see the permit. No permit = call to police. Additionally, our city has a list of locations to which one must NOT solicit--even with a permit. I am registered on that list and will call. Most of the time I just do not answer the door. If I do, I immediately ask for permit and the list....tell them to find our address on the list and leave my porch. In your case, since you have a business and they get in--ask for the permit and then offer to call the police because they are there. if someone is dropping the kids off--90% of the time those organizations are shady, so I'd report them also.
I called public safety and found out they are required to have a permit, so from this point on, I'm going to ask for that when they walk in the door.
In our town, they get a yellow card on a lanyard when they get their permit and they have to wear it around their neck. It makes them easy to identify. And ignore. You are in a bit of a sticky situation since you are a business - you can't really scream at someone who approaches the door with a clipboard or box of stuff because it very well could be a customer. And you can't have a really bitchy sign because again - customers. But it sounds like you can cut them off quickly if they don't have a permit. Be prepared for them to tell you why they don't need it or to go ahead with their sales pitch anyway. At which point I would pick up the phone and say "do you want to call the city to get a permit or do you want me to call and report you?" And then I would say "fucker" in my head.
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Post by Peamac on Jun 9, 2016 12:40:24 GMT
I'd say they don't know what the sign means. In many countries, a solicitor is like a lawyer and they are obviously not "lawyering" when they come in to sell. Maybe simplify the sign so they get the idea.
We just got back from another cross-country road trip and in one state, the signs said "$10,000 fine for throwing trash on the highway" instead of just "$10,000 fine for littering" like all the other states had. Apparently not everyone knows what "littering" means.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 14:36:05 GMT
I can only imagine how annoying that gets!
Here's one I saw last week: I'm at the vet with my 2 sick cats. A mom walks in with her 9-ish year old daughter. All dressed up and holding a clipboard. The kid wants to be in a PAGEANT and is hitting up my vet to contribute money! Ballsy! They've never met my vet. Just walked in off the street. Then it gets odder: they say the money isn't for the kid to attend, it's for the pageant people to put on the pageant. Wtf. I could not believe that my vet gave them money. She was not happy. But she did it. And there we sit waiting for our appointment...... Some people have huge balls.
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 9, 2016 19:02:50 GMT
ABSOLUTELY NO SOLICITING We have found Jesus we love our vacuum we know who we are voting for we gave at the office and my kid is selling all the same crap you are! I think I'd change it to we found Satan to fend of the religious knockers.
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