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Post by Meri-Lyn on Jun 10, 2016 16:59:11 GMT
Sorry, but I totally agree with the restaurant. I really dont like seeing it. Ive been on cruises and we are sitting around dressed up eating a lovely meal and the needle is brought out. Id also be offended if someone chose to breastfeed at the table. I want to enjoy my meal. Oy vey!!!!
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 10, 2016 17:04:19 GMT
Come on. Every diabetic I've known is like a ninja with that needle! You'd have to be looking pretty hard to even be aware of what they were doing. Our nephew was just visiting and is insulin dependent. I can honestly say the only time I saw the insulin was when he asked where he could store it in the fridge. I never saw the needles at home or when eating out. He had them with him at all times and ninja quick is a great way to describe how he takes care of injecting himself.
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Post by Merge on Jun 10, 2016 18:03:50 GMT
Sorry, but I totally agree with the restaurant. I really dont like seeing it. Ive been on cruises and we are sitting around dressed up eating a lovely meal and the needle is brought out. Id also be offended if someone chose to breastfeed at the table. I want to enjoy my meal. As long as they're not squirting insulin or breast milk on your food, I fail to see how those things would prevent you from enjoying your meal.
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Post by elaine on Jun 10, 2016 18:06:56 GMT
Sorry, but I totally agree with the restaurant. I really dont like seeing it. Ive been on cruises and we are sitting around dressed up eating a lovely meal and the needle is brought out. Id also be offended if someone chose to breastfeed at the table. I want to enjoy my meal. As long as they're not squirting insulin or breast milk on your food, I fail to see how those things would prevent you from enjoying your meal. For the win! the mental image of that made me literally LOL!
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 10, 2016 18:21:24 GMT
I'd much rather give myself a shot as discreetly as I could at a table in the CLEAN, MORE SANITARY dining area of a restaurant than going to the restroom to do it.
Good lord, if people don't want to even touch the toilet handle or the bathroom door handle with their bare hand, why on earth would we expect / require someone to INJECT themselves and risk transmitting some unknown pathogen into their body in such a place??
Do people equate a diabetic injecting themselves with insulin (an invasive medical procedure that needs sanitary conditions) with someone shooting up with meth, or what??
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Post by milocat on Jun 10, 2016 18:23:43 GMT
Needles make me squeamish. I always close my eyes the whole time, even when my kids got immunized and I was holding them. But I think this is wrong. If I had a friend who were diabetic I would ask them to warn me so I could turn my head away. I wouldn't banish them to the bathroom.
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Post by peano on Jun 10, 2016 19:30:06 GMT
Breastfeeding at the table in a restaurant is perfectly fine; the baby is eating and that's what you're supposed to do at a restaurant. Injecting insulin, (unless a life-threatening emergency) applying antibiotic cream and a bandaid, or any other medical thing should not be performed at the table. If you suffer from the Pea Heebie-Jeebies over bathroom germs, inject in your car.
Combat oversharing. Find some boundaries.
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Post by kirspend on Jun 10, 2016 19:42:09 GMT
What you don't get @peano, is that injecting insulin HAS TO BE DONE with EACH MEAL. It's not something the diabetic can choose to do or not do without DIRE CONSEQUENCES!
Trust me, they would much rather not have to have anything to do with needles! Having this illness sucks!!!
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Post by Freefallfast on Jun 10, 2016 19:45:20 GMT
At every event my sisters MIL attends she manages to make certain everyone at the table sees her waving her needles as she talks with her hands.
I'm a "feint at the sight of needles" person.
I have learned to never sit near her. Only took one time passing out to learn that lesson. I now rarely engage as I think she waits for me to be looking at her then BAM there's the needle!
I think I offended her by my eyes rolling in the back of my head and slumping over. She was huffy about her right to do as she pleased and when she pleased as far as her needle waving.
Couldn't care less about the ninja diabetic shot givers but she is an ass about it.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jun 10, 2016 19:50:28 GMT
I was an insulin-dependent gestational diabetes patient and now I give myself a growth hormone injection daily in the abdomen and I would not dream of doing it at a restaurant table in either situation. It seems rude and unseemly, because really, who wants to see my big ole belly. In general, I just find people in society these days have a general lack of discretion and boundaries, whether it's social media or issues like this. You don't want to do it in the bathroom, do it in your car before you go in. I don't see what the big deal is, unless the person is going into shock or if the injection would protect against some immediately life-threatening condition. I have never seen anyone give themselves an injection in public so I don't know what the process is. I have seen the needle disposal boxes in restrooms so I guess I just thought people prefer the privacy of a stall and that is why they are in the restroom. My sister fainted when our other sister got her ears pierced. So she would be on the floor before she could turn her head.
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Post by azredhead on Jun 10, 2016 19:52:13 GMT
Oh dear! I carry Dh's stuff in my purse in case he needs it. He'll pick me up and we'll head to date night on the weekend.Sometimes it's along wait. If he does have to check or can't get some where he can , we try to be pretty descreate about it. I can't believe a resturaunt would put a sign up! Or even notice that's what they were doing. Yea usually the shots the are in the belly are in the leg... Dh does his in the belly so he can hide it if he needed too.. I should add now he's much more mangaged so he not nearly as low so he doesn't scare me like he used to.
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Post by mellyw on Jun 10, 2016 19:57:35 GMT
Sorry, but I totally agree with the restaurant. I really dont like seeing it. Ive been on cruises and we are sitting around dressed up eating a lovely meal and the needle is brought out. Id also be offended if someone chose to breastfeed at the table. I want to enjoy my meal. Surprisingly, I'm sure the person giving the shot wanted to enjoy their meal also, instead of, you know, keeling over. I feel fairly certain that would have really interrupted your meal. There is so f*cking way I'd ever advice giving a shot in a public bathroom. Take 2 seconds & think that one out from the diabetics view. A place filled with germs that some will only flush the toilet with their foot, but hey, I can't handle the sight of a needle, so get in there & INJECT your body near the germs. I'm not unsympathetic to those with needle phobias. Believe it or not, my niece was highly needle phobic, like freak out when she had to get a shot. Diagnosed at 6 with Type 1 diabetes, & her, my sister & one brother, all needle phobic, had to get past it. And they did, only with needles having to do with diabetes mind you. But you do what you have to to survive. My FIL, DD, Niece are Type 1's, so I've been around it forever. But I'll admit I've never run across anyone who acts like some of you are posting. The urge to give a good smack for that behavior would be overwhelming. What an odd think to seek attention over.
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Post by berty on Jun 11, 2016 1:33:39 GMT
I nominate you for best typo of the year! OH MY GOD!!!! I'm so sorry!! I did not go back and read, my littles were talking to me and wanted a snack !! Lol Don't be sorry. I know it wasn't on purpose, but it's hilarious! Thanks for the much needed laugh.
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Post by peano on Jun 11, 2016 1:58:59 GMT
What you don't get @peano, is that injecting insulin HAS TO BE DONE with EACH MEAL. It's not something the diabetic can choose to do or not do without DIRE CONSEQUENCES! Trust me, they would much rather not have to have anything to do with needles! Having this illness sucks!!! I do get it as I was an INSULIN-DEPENDENT GESTATIONAL DIABETES PATIENT as I stated in my first post. I managed to dine out many times without injecting at the table. Again, if someone is having a life-threatening crisis, that is a different matter.
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Post by mellyw on Jun 11, 2016 2:57:13 GMT
What you don't get @peano, is that injecting insulin HAS TO BE DONE with EACH MEAL. It's not something the diabetic can choose to do or not do without DIRE CONSEQUENCES! Trust me, they would much rather not have to have anything to do with needles! Having this illness sucks!!! I do get it as I was an INSULIN-DEPENDENT GESTATIONAL DIABETES PATIENT as I stated in my first post. I managed to dine out many times without injecting at the table. Again, if someone is having a life-threatening crisis, that is a different matter. So am I right in assuming you only needed insulin for a couple months? Because I don't think you can compare that to someone who has to give shots for years & years. My DD is 22, & has been Type 1 since she was 9. That's a lot of time hanging out in the bathroom, car or wherever some think she should go to not offend.
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Post by chirpingcricket on Jun 11, 2016 3:00:22 GMT
Sorry, but I totally agree with the restaurant. Sorry, but you totally need to get over yourself. My husband's life is way more important than your unreasonably delicate sensibilities.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 3:17:58 GMT
For me, I don't object, but find it very awkward and a little rude, and that's because of the bodily fluid issue. The injections don't bother me, but the finger pricking does. I worked in the medical field and I lived through the AIDS crisis in an urban place; I don't ever want a stranger's blood near me unless I am gloved and masked, maybe especially when people are eating. Blood is definitely not a public bodily fluid IMO.
So that's the difference for me, the potential pathogens and if I see someone lay a bloody alcohol wipe next to their plate, well, I'm out.
Breastmilk, breastfeeding and boobs at the table, all fine. That's food.
I just wanted to try and explain. I wouldn't say a word to anyone about it, under pretty much any circumstances. And I don't expect people to go to the bathroom for this task if that's not safe or unclean (which let's face it, it isn't really) - but the table is not the perfect place for it either.
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Post by mellyw on Jun 11, 2016 6:15:10 GMT
I have one more post on this topic & I'm out. It's a topic too close to home for me.
For those who don't like to see the needles for whatever reason, you do realize that this disease kills, right? We lost my FIL at 45, somewhat expected because he lived thru early years of just starting to understand Type 1, but still much too young. He never met his 3 grandchildren, & he would have been an incredible Grandfather.
And 1.5 years ago, we lost my 24 year old Niece. My heart is still broken, she was my god child, niece, just beloved beautiful girl.
I live with the knowledge that the only child I was able to have, is having her life cut short due to Type 1. There's no way around it, the advances are remarkable, but the disease takes a toll no matter what.
So maybe, just maybe, you could think of that shot you may happen to see, as a life giving device & not something gross or that should be done in unsanitary conditions because for a split second of your life, you are uncomfortable.
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Post by leftturnonly on Jun 11, 2016 7:54:51 GMT
From the top of the article linked... Come on. Every diabetic I've known is like a ninja with that needle! You'd have to be looking pretty hard to even be aware of what they were doing. My dd has type 1 diabetes. She's on an insulin pump and has been for years so we don't have this issue. Though she does poke her finger to check her blood and does it at the table. When she was on shots, we did do it at the table. I was not going to give her a shot in the freaking bathroom. Now there were a few times where we used the restroom lounge area because honestly it was easier for us and those are usually a bit separated from the stalls. Most people are able to give shots very discreetly using insulin pens. However not all diabetics use insulin pens, but syringes and it's hard to be discreet with those. Before dd started on the pump she used syringes. Insulin pens couldn't give the very small doses that a small child needed. So I would have to pull out the syringe, the vial, draw up the insulin, tap to get out bubbles etc. Very obvious what is going on and people would see the needle if they were looking at us. Like I said, we did use lounges at times but most restaurants didn't have them so I would just do this at the table. Doing it before we came in to eat was out of the question as the amount was based on what she was eating and couldn't be given too far ahead given that you don't know how long it will take to get your food, how much a small child will eat etc. Anyway, I tried not to make a big production out of it but I could only be so discreet and when it comes down to it, people just need to look the other way if it makes them uncomfortable. I found most of the time people would just look away. Occasionally small children would watch but most of the time parents would just tell them not to be nosey or I would hear them tell their child that my dd was getting medicine, no need to stare etc. BTDT beginning when dd was 1, and still using needles today. No insulin pens. The only time we really did the testing and shots "on display" was when she was in elementary school. That decision was made conscientiously as it was an important learning experience for her classmates to see and far from being grossed out, other children were always fascinated to watch. Anything done at a restaurant table was/is done so discreetly even diners at a next table would never notice. (Though she goes to some trouble to not do this around other people. Kudos to her for being so considerate.) At every event my sisters MIL attends she manages to make certain everyone at the table sees her waving her needles as she talks with her hands. That could be mighty uncomfortable to be around. My sister fainted when our other sister got her ears pierced. So she would be on the floor before she could turn her head. Blood is definitely not a public bodily fluid IMO. I have family who can faint at the sight of blood. It's an autonomic response that they have absolutely no control over. I totally get where you both are coming from! Yeah, yeah, yeah.... insulin dependent diabetics need to test and give insulin when they are out amongst the public. It can be done discreetly at a table and if not, I do think other people should be considered and this should be done somewhere other than a dining area. This is not something that should be forced upon other people while they are trying to eat because it really does physically affect other people. Funny. All these years dealing with this on a daily basis and I thought this was just simple common sense.
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Post by gar on Jun 11, 2016 9:01:54 GMT
Sorry, but I totally agree with the restaurant. I really dont like seeing it. Ive been on cruises and we are sitting around dressed up eating a lovely meal and the needle is brought out. Id also be offended if someone chose to breastfeed at the table. I want to enjoy my meal. I'm not at all sure why you think those two things are mutually exclusive. Why would someone feeding a baby spoil your meal enjoyment? I get that some people feel that feeding should be done discreetly but that doesn't explain why it would put you off your food.
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