Rainbow
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Where salt is in the air and sand is at my feet...
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Jun 26, 2014 5:57:41 GMT
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 10, 2016 0:02:04 GMT
link Uh, no. And I didn't breastfeed in the bathroom either.
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Post by chirpingcricket on Jun 10, 2016 0:08:15 GMT
HOLY F***ING S***, was that restaurant owner on drugs?!?! I. ... Wow. My husband has Type I diabetes. I wish I had seen this sign in person. So not cool.
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Rainbow
Pearl Clutcher
Where salt is in the air and sand is at my feet...
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Jun 26, 2014 5:57:41 GMT
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 10, 2016 0:12:42 GMT
Crazy, isn't it?
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Post by OntarioScrapper on Jun 10, 2016 0:15:11 GMT
WTF? I can't stand loud eaters. Will he put up a sign to eat more quietly??!!
For fraks sake, you just deal with what bothers you. You know like most people do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 0:37:30 GMT
As a diabetic (and have used insulin), that's bullshit. I've been to meals many times with diabetics who are able to give themselves a shot without anyone even noticing and even if they did notice, what's the big deal. Next they will want someone who needs an EPI pen for an allergic reaction to skip off to the bathroom.
That said, DH worked with an insulin dependent diabetic. He was a real asshole about it. Not because he was diabetic or insulin dependent but because he was an asshole. Nightly he would spread all of his supplies out like he was getting ready to perform surgery (and seriously, that's NOT necessary) in the middle of the work area (aircraft mechanic so an incredibly dirty work area), and proceed to make a huge ass production about giving himself his shot. Every single night. He could have done it in a clean office, the clean restroom, or even the break room. But he choose to make sure that he commanded the attention of everyone by doing it right in the middle of filth, grease, dirt, bird guts, and jet fuel simply to get attention. Because that's the only possible reason someone would choose that. So you can pretty well bet that if he were in the middle of a restaurant, he would probably spread everything out on the table like a diabetic buffet and proceed to drop pants just to get a reaction from people.
Consideration goes both ways.
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Post by 950nancy on Jun 10, 2016 1:24:36 GMT
I'd like to hope that this guy realizes he has made a big mistake and corrects it. I would prefer to judge him on what he does after he realizes it was the wrong thing to do.
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Mystie
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Jun 25, 2014 19:53:37 GMT
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Post by Mystie on Jun 10, 2016 1:31:57 GMT
Come on. Every diabetic I've known is like a ninja with that needle! You'd have to be looking pretty hard to even be aware of what they were doing.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 10, 2016 1:36:37 GMT
I get it, it just wasn't cool to post a sign, but in the same token some people just don't like seeing others getting shots, much less so while they are eating. Their feelings shouldn't matter any less.
I think courtesy extends both ways, if a shit must be given do it discreetly (burning feather has the idea, my BF and a few relatives either go to the bathroom or can very discreetly and quickly do it at the table )
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Post by berty on Jun 10, 2016 1:55:46 GMT
I get it, it just wasn't cool to post a sign, but in the same token some people just don't like seeing others getting shots, much less so while they are eating. Their feelings shouldn't matter any less. I think courtesy extends both ways, if a shit must be given do it discreetly (burning feather has the idea, my BF and a few relatives either go to the bathroom or can very discreetly and quickly do it at the table ) I nominate you for best typo of the year!
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Post by elaine on Jun 10, 2016 1:59:00 GMT
I get it, it just wasn't cool to post a sign, but in the same token some people just don't like seeing others getting shots, much less so while they are eating. Their feelings shouldn't matter any less.I think courtesy extends both ways, if a shit must be given do it discreetly (burning feather has the idea, my BF and a few relatives either go to the bathroom or can very discreetly and quickly do it at the table ) Um, yeah they should. Their feelings matter less than the life or death of the diabetic. My heavens. And I thought this was a no-brainier.
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flute4peace
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Jul 3, 2014 14:38:35 GMT
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Post by flute4peace on Jun 10, 2016 2:31:21 GMT
I get it, it just wasn't cool to post a sign, but in the same token some people just don't like seeing others getting shots, much less so while they are eating. Their feelings shouldn't matter any less. I think courtesy extends both ways, if a shit must be given do it discreetly (burning feather has the idea, my BF and a few relatives either go to the bathroom or can very discreetly and quickly do it at the table ) I'm sorry but this just might be the best typo ever.
ETA: Sorry just noticed that this wasn't an original thought - ha.
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kirspend
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Jul 18, 2014 21:08:17 GMT
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Post by kirspend on Jun 10, 2016 2:34:52 GMT
Makes you wonder how the owner feels about checking blood sugar. All that icky blood!! Maybe my pump makes too much noise as it dispenses?
Would it be better to see the needle or get out of the paramedics way as they haul me out of the restaurant?
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 10, 2016 2:47:55 GMT
I get it, it just wasn't cool to post a sign, but in the same token some people just don't like seeing others getting shots, much less so while they are eating. Their feelings shouldn't matter any less. I think courtesy extends both ways, if a shit must be given do it discreetly (burning feather has the idea, my BF and a few relatives either go to the bathroom or can very discreetly and quickly do it at the table ) I nominate you for best typo of the year! OH MY GOD!!!! I'm so sorry!! I did not go back and read, my littles were talking to me and wanted a snack !! Lol
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 10, 2016 2:49:07 GMT
Oh my god I just read my post again and even with shit (typo) it is hilarious ! Oh my god!! Lol
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Post by beebee on Jun 10, 2016 3:02:42 GMT
As an insulin dependent diabetic, I would be livid. I don't make a fuss about many things, but I would make a fuss about this.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jun 10, 2016 3:19:49 GMT
What's worse, a comatose person in a busy restaurant or someone discreetly giving themselves a lifesaving insulin shot?
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Post by peano on Jun 10, 2016 4:10:56 GMT
I was an insulin-dependent gestational diabetes patient and now I give myself a growth hormone injection daily in the abdomen and I would not dream of doing it at a restaurant table in either situation. It seems rude and unseemly, because really, who wants to see my big ole belly. In general, I just find people in society these days have a general lack of discretion and boundaries, whether it's social media or issues like this.
You don't want to do it in the bathroom, do it in your car before you go in. I don't see what the big deal is, unless the person is going into shock or if the injection would protect against some immediately life-threatening condition.
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Jili
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Jun 26, 2014 1:26:48 GMT
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Post by Jili on Jun 10, 2016 6:12:42 GMT
As a diabetic (and have used insulin), that's bullshit. I've been to meals many times with diabetics who are able to give themselves a shot without anyone even noticing and even if they did notice, what's the big deal. Next they will want someone who needs an EPI pen for an allergic reaction to skip off to the bathroom. This is my dad. In the last year or so, he's been on a regimen where he has to have a shot a certain amount of time before a meal. I have seen him take a shot at a restaurant table many times. He uses an insulin pen and it's quick and easy. Not worth going to the bathroom, and I doubt anyone notices. As Mystie said, he's like a Ninja with the needle. I admit that I was a bit startled the first time I saw him do that, but it doesn't bother me. I'm just glad that he takes care of himself.
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craftykitten
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Jun 26, 2014 7:39:32 GMT
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Post by craftykitten on Jun 10, 2016 9:46:52 GMT
What's worse, a comatose person in a busy restaurant or someone discreetly giving themselves a lifesaving insulin shot? Years ago, before he got his pacemaker, my grandad collapsed at a restaurant and we had to call an ambulance. People complained that we had disturbed their lunch. Some people will complain about anything.
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Dalai Mama
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Jun 26, 2014 0:31:31 GMT
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Post by Dalai Mama on Jun 10, 2016 10:57:36 GMT
I get it, it just wasn't cool to post a sign, but in the same token some people just don't like seeing others getting shots, much less so while they are eating. Their feelings shouldn't matter any less.I think courtesy extends both ways, if a shit must be given do it discreetly (burning feather has the idea, my BF and a few relatives either go to the bathroom or can very discreetly and quickly do it at the table ) If they have necks capable of turning their heads to the side, or eyelids that can actually close, I'm going to say watching someone give the self an injection is a choice. No shits were given.
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iluvpink
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Jul 13, 2014 12:40:31 GMT
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Post by iluvpink on Jun 10, 2016 11:52:23 GMT
My dd has type 1 diabetes. She's on an insulin pump and has been for years so we don't have this issue. Though she does poke her finger to check her blood and does it at the table.
When she was on shots, we did do it at the table. I was not going to give her a shot in the freaking bathroom. Now there were a few times where we used the restroom lounge area because honestly it was easier for us and those are usually a bit separated from the stalls.
Most people are able to give shots very discreetly using insulin pens. However not all diabetics use insulin pens, but syringes and it's hard to be discreet with those. Before dd started on the pump she used syringes. Insulin pens couldn't give the very small doses that a small child needed. So I would have to pull out the syringe, the vial, draw up the insulin, tap to get out bubbles etc. Very obvious what is going on and people would see the needle if they were looking at us. Like I said, we did use lounges at times but most restaurants didn't have them so I would just do this at the table. Doing it before we came in to eat was out of the question as the amount was based on what she was eating and couldn't be given too far ahead given that you don't know how long it will take to get your food, how much a small child will eat etc.
Anyway, I tried not to make a big production out of it but I could only be so discreet and when it comes down to it, people just need to look the other way if it makes them uncomfortable. I found most of the time people would just look away. Occasionally small children would watch but most of the time parents would just tell them not to be nosey or I would hear them tell their child that my dd was getting medicine, no need to stare etc.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 10, 2016 14:13:52 GMT
I get it, it just wasn't cool to post a sign, but in the same token some people just don't like seeing others getting shots, much less so while they are eating. Their feelings shouldn't matter any less.I think courtesy extends both ways, if a shit must be given do it discreetly (burning feather has the idea, my BF and a few relatives either go to the bathroom or can very discreetly and quickly do it at the table ) If they have necks capable of turning their heads to the side, or eyelids that can actually close, I'm going to say watching someone give the self an injection is a choice. No shits were given. I get it, I really do and I've never said that they shouldn't do it. My BF and my mom are both diabetic so I know first hand what it entails. I know that neither my mom or BF would be garishly waving their stuff out at the tables--one goes to the bathroom the other is what debmast calls a needle ninja! What I'm saying is that there ARE people who really react to seeing needles badly--dead faint away, immediate nausea, dizzy (I know because both me and a sibling were this way!!). I'd pass out cold if I saw a needle! I certainly wasn't trying to say tough crap for the diabetic as Elaine has tried to paint a picture of me like I have no empathy or sense. I said that their feelings shouldn't matter any less, because I know, again from experience that (my mom & BF) those who have to give themselves insulin usually aren't out to make anyone else uncomfortable either.
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Post by Leone on Jun 10, 2016 15:36:54 GMT
Sorry, but I totally agree with the restaurant. I really dont like seeing it. Ive been on cruises and we are sitting around dressed up eating a lovely meal and the needle is brought out. Id also be offended if someone chose to breastfeed at the table. I want to enjoy my meal.
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craftykitten
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Post by craftykitten on Jun 10, 2016 16:12:49 GMT
Sorry, but I totally agree with the restaurant. I really dont like seeing it. Ive been on cruises and we are sitting around dressed up eating a lovely meal and the needle is brought out. Id also be offended if someone chose to breastfeed at the table. I want to enjoy my meal. I personally find it really offensive when people eat noisily and chew with their mouth open. However, I recognise that this is MY problem to deal with and it is not reasonable of me to ask them to eat somewhere else.
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flute4peace
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Jul 3, 2014 14:38:35 GMT
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Post by flute4peace on Jun 10, 2016 16:21:45 GMT
What's worse, a comatose person in a busy restaurant or someone discreetly giving themselves a lifesaving insulin shot? Years ago, before he got his pacemaker, my grandad collapsed at a restaurant and we had to call an ambulance. People complained that we had disturbed their lunch. Some people will complain about anything.
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Post by mimi3566 on Jun 10, 2016 16:46:44 GMT
As a diabetic (and have used insulin), that's bullshit. I've been to meals many times with diabetics who are able to give themselves a shot without anyone even noticing and even if they did notice, what's the big deal. Next they will want someone who needs an EPI pen for an allergic reaction to skip off to the bathroom. That said, DH worked with an insulin dependent diabetic. He was a real asshole about it. Not because he was diabetic or insulin dependent but because he was an asshole. Nightly he would spread all of his supplies out like he was getting ready to perform surgery (and seriously, that's NOT necessary) in the middle of the work area (aircraft mechanic so an incredibly dirty work area), and proceed to make a huge ass production about giving himself his shot. Every single night. He could have done it in a clean office, the clean restroom, or even the break room. But he choose to make sure that he commanded the attention of everyone by doing it right in the middle of filth, grease, dirt, bird guts, and jet fuel simply to get attention. Because that's the only possible reason someone would choose that. So you can pretty well bet that if he were in the middle of a restaurant, he would probably spread everything out on the table like a diabetic buffet and proceed to drop pants just to get a reaction from people. Consideration goes both ways. Sound like this guy is related to a co-worker of mine. She does the same thing in that she makes sure everyone in the office knows about it. The environment is fine in that it's an office so it's clean, but she has her own cubicle/cubby kind of tucked away and know one can see her unless you walk into her cubby, but she is such an attention seeker she feels the need to make sure everyone is aware of what she is doing.
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Post by mimi3566 on Jun 10, 2016 16:49:08 GMT
Sorry, but I totally agree with the restaurant. I really dont like seeing it. Ive been on cruises and we are sitting around dressed up eating a lovely meal and the needle is brought out. Id also be offended if someone chose to breastfeed at the table. I want to enjoy my meal. Sooo...what is a breast feeding mother supposed to do...go feed her baby in the bathroom....do you want to eat your meal in the bathroom?
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Post by secondlife on Jun 10, 2016 16:49:33 GMT
Sorry, but I totally agree with the restaurant. I really dont like seeing it. Ive been on cruises and we are sitting around dressed up eating a lovely meal and the needle is brought out. Id also be offended if someone chose to breastfeed at the table. I want to enjoy my meal. I think for me the thought process is... I tend not to eat in the bathroom or the car, so I don't expect babies to do that either. I do tend not to take care of non-emergency personal medical care at the table if I can avoid it, but the bathroom doesn't seem like the cleanest place to do that. I have a friend with diabetes and we eat out together a lot. I'm accustomed to her caring for her own needs now. She's a needle ninja and you don't even know what she's doing. she can test her sugar and inject her insulin so discreetly you have to be aware of it to be aware of it. I think I'm mostly in favor of people just doing what they need to do, and of course I think giving a nod to general discretion isn't the worst thing ever so maybe one needn't make a great display of oneself. But I don't see these things in and of themselves as unmannerly. Mostly I wish that people who had to fart would go to the restroom and do it rather than farting at table and disturbing everyone around them, and by that measure a nursing baby or a needle ninja has little relative impact in my estimation.
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Post by lbp on Jun 10, 2016 16:50:49 GMT
Good Grief! If you don't want to see someone give themselves a shot, DON'T LOOK! Ridiculous.
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Post by mimi3566 on Jun 10, 2016 16:55:05 GMT
Sorry, but I totally agree with the restaurant. I really dont like seeing it. Ive been on cruises and we are sitting around dressed up eating a lovely meal and the needle is brought out. Id also be offended if someone chose to breastfeed at the table. I want to enjoy my meal. I think for me the thought process is... I tend not to eat in the bathroom or the car, so I don't expect babies to do that either. I do tend not to take care of non-emergency personal medical care at the table if I can avoid it, but the bathroom doesn't seem like the cleanest place to do that. I have a friend with diabetes and we eat out together a lot. I'm accustomed to her caring for her own needs now. She's a needle ninja and you don't even know what she's doing. she can test her sugar and inject her insulin so discreetly you have to be aware of it to be aware of it. I think I'm mostly in favor of people just doing what they need to do, and of course I think giving a nod to general discretion isn't the worst thing ever so maybe one needn't make a great display of oneself. But I don't see these things in and of themselves as unmannerly. Mostly I wish that people who had to fart would go to the restroom and do it rather than farting at table and disturbing everyone around them, and by that measure a nursing baby or a needle ninja has little relative impact in my estimation. I agree with the discreet part. My daughter has breastfed all three of her children and it didn't take her long to learn how to be very discreet in doing it. I think most mothers are and I bet everyone has been in the vicinity of a mother nursing her baby and don't even realize it.
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