Trump doesn't pay his bills?

I'm not a Trump supporter by any stretch but I don't totally disagree with him on this. As a business person should he have to pay someone who doesn't do their job or does a crappy job? I think most people (especially successful business people who remove any emotion) would say no. He has the money to handle any court costs so if he doesn't feel he should pay then that's his right to refuse payment and take his chances of being sued. Now personally it sounds like this has happened a lot with him, but he does a lot of transactions so without seeing percentages of overall transactions it's hard to say.

However the thing is that he has the money to tell the contractors ho ahead sue me, which would bury them. What if the contractor did the job he was hired to do and was told tough shit, I think it's crappy?

If you're unhappy with someone's work, you return it, you talk to them about it, you ask them to fix it, or you take them to court. You don't just decide not to pay them but carry on using their "inferior" product as if it were just A-OK.

That is what Donald Trump does, and he gets away with destroying small businesses because he's rich, powerful, and doesn't care whom he hurts. That's not "good business," it's just a way to make money on the backs of little people.

I totally agree, if the contractor did the job he was hired for as the contract stated and was agreed upon, he should be paid as trump agreed to. But trump is saying that's not what happened. 

Bankruptcy also involves not paying one's bills - Trump also has plenty of experience with that. That some people think that Trump would solve our country's economic challenges makes me LOL.

In the general population, I would agree with you, but for this particular guy, with his history, I totally believe it's intentional. After all, he brags about how his "bankruptcy" filings are good business practices, no matter how many people get screwed.

I really, really, really don't think of myself as a Trump supporter, but as it stands, I will be voting for Trump over Hillary so I guess this question is for me as well.

I don't like a lot about Trump. I won't make excuses for him. It's possible that some of the suits against him are because he is such a big target, but I do believe that suits are brought against him with legitimate grievances as noted in the article linked.

I have a moral objection to profiting from the gambling of others. I don't think it's "just business." Casinos are made for the sole purpose to exploit the weaknesses of others, IMO. Not to mention what the casinos did to the homes and neighborhoods in Atlantic City... 

So, even if he had continued to run these successfully, I would have my own personal strikes against him... but to actually bankrupt multiple casinos? In Atlantic City? SMH. It is incredulous.


And still, I think he's a better option than Hillary or Bernie. Or Joe Biden, if the DNC goes into total circus mode and nominates him.


We've had a LOT of serious changes made within our country over these past 7+ years. There's been a huge swing to the political left and that means that we are due for our momentum to swing back to the right because that's what pendulums do.

Our citizenry is divided in two. Any further movement to the left will be countered by a swing to the right at some point. I'd rather it happen now, when the effects can still be moderately in the middle than at some later point, when we really risk deepening this divide even further.


There was an article linked on another thread that said even if you don't agree with whomever the Democrat party nominates, you need to vote for that candidate because the party values were too important to let fall to the Republicans. And people on that thread agreed with the article.

So, here it is in reverse. I do not agree with the Republican nominee, but I think we need a different perspective from that of the Democrat Party.




At this point, it's really not about the candidate any longer. It's about the party in general. My vote in this election will be against the continued, unabated pull of this country to the left.

 

You're right, my eyes kinda glazed over throughout some of that article and I didn't read the whole thing.  Once ordered by the court he should absolutely pay and frankly I think the courts should be able to garnish whatever to get the debt paid. 

Trump's MO is to ignore payments owed and outlast anyone that sues him. From the linked article:

In courtroom testimony, the manager of the general contractor for the Doral renovation admitted that a decision was made not to pay The Paint Spot because Trump “already paid enough.” As the construction manager spoke, “Trump’s trial attorneys visibly winced, began breathing heavily, and attempted to make eye contact” with the witness, the judge noted in his ruling.

In this case, the judge has ordered the Florida Doral resort to be foreclosed and the proceeds used to pay The Paint Spot. Of course, Trump is appealing. All this is over $30,000.

DH is an electrical contractor and there are developers he will not work with because of their reputation for not paying. 

This is not why Trump has been through four bankruptcies. He racks up a great deal of debt to build a business and then restructures it in bankruptcy. Trump Taj Mahal, Trump Plaza, his casinos, and his resorts. One, two, three, four.

Chapter 11 bankruptcy has absolutely nothing to do with not liking how the work is done. It is about ditching debt.

Yes, it is different. The Don does it only to get out of paying. Even his general contractor signs off on the job, but the Don says no, not paying. He's a cheat plain and simple. Getting rich off of the little guy. 

Why would you say someone did not do the job correctly but say you want to work with them again? 

But that's not what happened. Apparently Trump agrees to a price, then, after the fact, decides how much he's actually going to pay. Read the posts and the articles about it, and then decide.