finaledition
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Post by finaledition on Jun 11, 2016 14:10:24 GMT
Had to sleep on this one to form an opinion. What a powerful episode. I'm finding it hard to say "I loved it" when it clearly showed the brutalities of war even in victory. So I'm just going to say I have a great deal of respect for last night's episode and leave it at that for now. Since it's early, I'll stay away from anything specific. The opening scene really sets the tone for the episode. And "mark me", the strategy scenes at the beginning were interesting (thought it gave good insight into the dynamics of the players), but probably my least favorite. The battle scene was extraordinary. The reunions-tender, particularly loved Fergus last night. And seeing how if I wrote anything else, I'd be giving away too much, I'll stop there.
3 more episodes and so much more to cover.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 14:19:24 GMT
I'm downloading it now and will be back to discuss after I watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2016 18:36:15 GMT
Wow is all I can say. I thought this episode did a great job of showing some of the realities of what J & C are facing. How I wish the Prince would have gotten a little more of a clue. The scene before the battle where J leaves C-reminded me of when my DH went to Iraq the last time. He gave me his wedding ring, kissed me, and walked away.
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Post by momx1 on Jun 12, 2016 3:25:13 GMT
Wildcatmom, I can't imagine what that moment was like. I've got a couple of pictures of my dad telling my mom and I bye before leaving for deployment in Korea. Even though I know he returned I still get emotional looking at the pictures. This weeks episode left me sad for many reasons. The death of Angus and the realization that history has not changed. A victory at Prestonpans means a resounding defeat at Culloden, history has not been changed. I think they played this sense of gloom and dread very well. There was the momentary joy of victory, but overall this sense of dread. Maybe that's because as a book reader I know Soon Claire and Jamie will be separated for 20 years. Years that bring trial and tribulation, especially for Jamie. While there are moments of happiness they are still hard years for both of them.
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QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jun 12, 2016 12:33:20 GMT
This episode was very slow for me. Then when Jamie was concerned about the Prince staying to the rear during the battle, I thought, Hey, let him get killed and then we can all stop having an uprising and just go home. That was an appealing thought, but I guess too simplistic. I suppose it's no good for Claire to just suggest we all don't go down the road to Culloden? momx1, I am a non book reader who always reads the spoilers on these threads because I don't mind knowing what will happen on this show. Your second spoiler sounds like the worst thing that could happen to the show! Not sure I want to watch if it becomes 2 totally different shows, The Claire Show and The Jamie Show. I want to see The Claire AND Jamie Show!
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Jun 12, 2016 14:41:33 GMT
I think I am going to have to stop reading these threads! I keep thinking I'm reading a spoiler but this episdoe only to get a book spoiler. I am planning on reading the books this summer so I might just have to catch up with you all!!!
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finaledition
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Post by finaledition on Jun 12, 2016 16:47:33 GMT
@wildcatmom the scene with Claire and Jamie before the battle was heartbreaking to watch. I can't imagine having to be in those shoes, like you, and trying to keep it together. I watched the episode again last night, I liked it even more the second time. I think sometimes when I watch knowing that something big is going to happen, I'm so focused on that something big that I don't appreciate all the details in other scenes leading up to that event. So my second viewing took my already positive review probably a step higher. There were some amazing things that took place in epidsode 210. I think for all the grief that book readers give about the adaptation and leaving stuff out, the way the show has made up for it- developing secondary characters like Dougal, Rupert and Angus has been so awesome. I didn't think I'd be shedding a tear over Angus, but there I was- tears flowing. And they were flowing not just for the loss of the character, but the death of the friendship between Rupert and Angus. The sense of dread and foreshadowing in this episode made me so uneasy for the last few episodes. I really feel that since the return from France, each episode has been building on one another toward a climatic ending. Each week is getting harder to watch. To address the spoilers on this thread-I know I jump the gun early by getting this thread up before most people have watched it. I just like to get my thoughts out after I watch and even with a spoiler alert I try to keep things as vague as possible. As for the book spoilers, I am a book reader (haven't finished the last 2), so I do know that sometimes our knowledge of what is to come is hard to separate from what's going on in the show. Perhaps we can continue to use the spoiler feature, but place the words SHOW or BOOK above the actual spoilers to prevent this from happening in the future? Please don't stop ktdoesntscrap , I enjoy reading responses from book readers and non book readers alike. For instance, as a non-book reader were you thinking that something was going to happen to Fergus last night? QueenoftheSloths BOÔK SPOILER There is a major jump in time in Voyager. We are going to see this time jump at the end of this season. Jamie and Claire will be together and in the books we get a summary (well, several chapters) of their time apart. Just keep in mind that there are 9 books so far in the Outlander series, and each book Jamie and Claire are together. So next week Diana Gabaldon is the writer of episode 211. This news came out at the beginning of the season, but it seems more intriguing to me now since we know they cannot follow the book-there's too much and it's been written that several big scenes will not be included-the death in episode 210 was a departure from the book, they started the season different than in the book, etc... All this to say, Diana is going to have to make some tough adaptation choices. Nobody knows her work better than she does, but now, given time constraints, the framing of the season, the adaptation choices previously made, I am so looking forward to seeing what she comes up with.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jun 12, 2016 17:24:27 GMT
I haven't had time to watch yet. But I'm glad that if they are going off the book so much next wk that Diana is the one doing the writing about it. She will remain faithful to the book series.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jun 12, 2016 18:23:40 GMT
Starting to think Outlander the show just isn't for me. I enjoyed season 1 but season 2 has just been boring. There's only been one episode that I have enjoyed so far the rest have basically put me to sleep. I keep reminding myself that book 2 was really hard for me so it makes sense that I wouldn't like season 2 of the show. Still though, I had high expectations for last night's episode and I just found it boring. Once the season is over I may go back and rewatch from season 1 and see if things are a little more interesting when they aren't so spaced out over weeks.
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Sue
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Post by Sue on Jun 12, 2016 19:49:22 GMT
I loved last nights episode. The battle scenes were amazing. And how they manage to do those without someone actually getting hurt is quite an accomplishment. Show And Angus' death seriously made me cry. I'll miss his mischievous personality and humor on the show. Such a great character. And, once again, I find the love and care that Claire demonstrates toward Fergus to be so maternal and sweet. I look forward but also dread the next three episodes.
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QueenoftheSloths
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jun 12, 2016 20:55:06 GMT
To address the spoilers on this thread-I know I jump the gun early by getting this thread up before most people have watched it. I just like to get my thoughts out after I watch and even with a spoiler alert I try to keep things as vague as possible. As for the book spoilers, I am a book reader (haven't finished the last 2), so I do know that sometimes our knowledge of what is to come is hard to separate from what's going on in the show. Perhaps we can continue to use the spoiler feature, but place the words SHOW or BOOK above the actual spoilers to prevent this from happening in the future? Please don't stop ktdoesntscrap , I enjoy reading responses from book readers and non book readers alike. For instance, as a non-book reader were you thinking that something was going to happen to Fergus last night? QueenoftheSloths BOÔK SPOILER There is a major jump in time in Voyager. We are going to see this time jump at the end of this season. Jamie and Claire will be together and in the books we get a summary (well, several chapters) of their time apart. Just keep in mind that there are 9 books so far in the Outlander series, and each book Jamie and Claire are together. Thank you for the book spoiler, that makes me feel better.
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Post by peasapie on Jun 12, 2016 21:09:04 GMT
Starting to think Outlander the show just isn't for me. I enjoyed season 1 but season 2 has just been boring. There's only been one episode that I have enjoyed so far the rest have basically put me to sleep. I keep reminding myself that book 2 was really hard for me so it makes sense that I wouldn't like season 2 of the show. Still though, I had high expectations for last night's episode and I just found it boring. Once the season is over I may go back and rewatch from season 1 and see if things are a little more interesting when they aren't so spaced out over weeks. Did you read the books, and if so, did you like them? I didn't like the book (I only read the first one) but I like the series better. I was thinking that maybe if you did like the books a lot, the series might not seem as good to you. SaveSave
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Post by chaosisapony on Jun 12, 2016 21:43:39 GMT
Starting to think Outlander the show just isn't for me. I enjoyed season 1 but season 2 has just been boring. There's only been one episode that I have enjoyed so far the rest have basically put me to sleep. I keep reminding myself that book 2 was really hard for me so it makes sense that I wouldn't like season 2 of the show. Still though, I had high expectations for last night's episode and I just found it boring. Once the season is over I may go back and rewatch from season 1 and see if things are a little more interesting when they aren't so spaced out over weeks. Did you read the books, and if so, did you like them? I didn't like the book (I only read the first one) but I like the series better. I was thinking that maybe if you did like the books a lot, the series might not seem as good to you. SaveSaveYes, I read and liked all of the books and I really enjoyed the first season of the show. I generally like tv adaptations of books and I'm not someone that gets hung up on "that's not what was in the book!" Save
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Post by Basket1lady on Jun 14, 2016 15:25:06 GMT
It was a busy weekend and I'm just getting to my computer. It's so much easier to type on a key board vs the iPad! No rants from me this week. The episode was pretty much what I had expected. Lots of war stuff, which I usually skim over when I'm reading. But I think they did a good job showing what the Jacobites were working with and the attitude of Prince Charles. I loved the Dougal scenes, not for the brutality they showed, but for what they showed of Dougal. A War Chief, getting the job done. We can respect Dougal for his bravery in battle, but know in the end he's still an @ ss. And I loved when Jamie told Prince Charles that he didn't think Claire would follow his orders to help the British soldiers first. Very telling! Here is the always entertaining Connie Verzak's account of the episode. Scotland Now Link-Episode 10-PrestonpansAnd here's is Outlander Community's in depth look at the episode. I can't believe the entire battle was filmed in a tent! Very impressive. Outlander Community-Episode 10-Prestonpans
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Post by Basket1lady on Jun 14, 2016 15:33:18 GMT
QueenoftheSloths, have no fear. It's still the Claire and Jamie show. chaosisapony, there are a lot of readers who didn't like the book Dragonfly in Amber. So it could be that you will like the third season/Voyager more. For a lot of people, that's their favorite book. There is A LOT that happens in Voyageur! finaledition, I agree. I'm waiting for the big stuff to happen and miss a lot of the little things. I like to rewatch the episodes too. And the good thing about this season is that I don't have to wait for the kids to be gone or in bed. I wouldn't watch the first season with my kids--the sex was just too graphic for even older teens, IMO.
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