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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 20:09:21 GMT
So today pastor said we need to be more giving. Then he got off on to hoarding. Then he got on ugly clocks and things our kids would not want. Then he really got off track and said no one was going to want our photos. And dh elbowed me.
Guess this goes on the what did you get rid of this week thread.
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Post by craftykitten on Jun 12, 2016 20:11:25 GMT
Really? I hope you said something to him afterwards. Photos - and scrapbooks - are a wonderful legacy.
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Post by scrapaddict702 on Jun 12, 2016 20:14:07 GMT
And they say the church leaves judgment up to "god".
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Post by Elsabelle on Jun 12, 2016 20:17:53 GMT
That's so sad. My entire family has always loved pictures and looking through them and reminiscing. We might not be able to do that someday with pictures posted on Facebook.
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Post by freeatlast on Jun 12, 2016 20:31:59 GMT
So today pastor said we need to be more giving. Then he got off on to hoarding. Then he got on ugly clocks and things our kids would not want. Then he really got off track and said no one was going to want our photos. And dh elbowed me. Guess this goes on the what did you get rid of this week thread. Your husband or the pastor? LOL |
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Post by pelirroja on Jun 12, 2016 20:33:54 GMT
I think your pastor is dead wrong about the photos: everyone always says they'd grab their photos if there was only one thing they could retrieve in a house fire. Your pastor needs to read the thread of amanda's passing (abragg). I'm reasonably certain Amanda's husband and her 7 year old son will be very grateful that she scrapbooked their family story.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 21:11:39 GMT
I don't know where you are located but down here in the south we have a sayin' for such as this:
"Now he's gone from preach in' to meddlin'."
Was his thought based in scripture? I'm thinking not.
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Post by lisacharlotte on Jun 12, 2016 21:31:16 GMT
Is this a typical sermon? If so, I'd be finding another church. I agree with @sdeven.
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 12, 2016 22:24:27 GMT
That's a shame really. I know plenty f folks who feel like he does. One of them inspired me to toss a box of every letter and card I ever got into the dumpster and I've regretted it ever since. While I certainly could have purged a bunch over time I have wanted to go back many times and read letters from my relatives that are gone now and others. That one box was no bigger than a box of clothes or fabric or dishes.
My kids can toss my stuff when I'm gone but it still brings me pleasure and no one but them knows what they want at the time they have to get rid of it.
I saw an episode of Tiny House Nation and the folks lost their home in a wild fire. They grabbed sentimental items and framed photos. Everything else was pretty much replaceable. Then there was the episode of the same show where the host told the lady to get rid of her children's babyhood stuff. She may not always live in a tiny house and her kids may want that stuff someday. I think she could have saved a few things and not had to give it all up for choices she is making now.
There is a difference between hoarding and minimalism. Yes it is great to clean out - I'm trying to do the same, but once the pastor starts using the pulpit to tell me what my kids will not want so I should toss it is his opinion and not the inspired word.
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Post by grammadee on Jun 12, 2016 22:32:16 GMT
So today pastor said we need to be more giving. Then he got off on to hoarding. Then he got on ugly clocks and things our kids would not want. Then he really got off track and said no one was going to want our photos. And dh elbowed me. Guess this goes on the what did you get rid of this week thread. Your husband or the pastor? LOL Ha ha! I like your thinking! Seriously, though, where was he going with this? If we give up our hoard, how exactly will that help the world? Why would God care? I can see if we have too many clothes or too much furniture and we give that to people who have none, that makes sense. I can see if we quit printing photos, perhaps that would save some of the world's resources. But if "nobody wants" the stuff we have collected over the years, then what is the godliness in giving it up? And if our scrapbooks bring a little joy to ourselves, to our families now and later, how can that be a bad thing? I think your paster has a sad lonely life. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 22:56:07 GMT
Actually, he is a fun, positive person and he is a decent photographer. Posts some photos on facebook. He just kind off got off on a rabbit trail, I think after the hoarders thought.
He and his wife like garage sales and she (or they) have LOTS of collections. Maybe he was preaching to himself!
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 13, 2016 0:30:25 GMT
"Now he's gone from preach in' to meddlin'." That's an awesome phrase! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 2:24:45 GMT
Just one of the hundreds of reasons I'm glad I got away from this stuff. Hoarding could be seen as an issue worth sermonizing about. But photos and scrapbooks generally, nope.
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Post by LisaDV on Jun 13, 2016 2:57:03 GMT
So today pastor said we need to be more giving. Then he got off on to hoarding. Then he got on ugly clocks and things our kids would not want. Then he really got off track and said no one was going to want our photos. And dh elbowed me. Guess this goes on the what did you get rid of this week thread. Your husband or the pastor? LOL I just snorted! LOL. |
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Post by LisaDV on Jun 13, 2016 3:00:20 GMT
"Now he's gone from preach in' to meddlin'." I like that saying. I think pastors often time try to relate to normal lives or their own lives. If he's a photographer, I'm sure he was talking about himself, especially if he does a lot of scenery shots and not memory making ones. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 13, 2016 3:09:06 GMT
That's so sad. My entire family has always loved pictures and looking through them and reminiscing. We might not be able to do that someday with pictures posted on Facebook. Our neighbor friend was just lamenting about this yesterday. She isn't married and has no kids. She said she really likes looking through her photos on Facebook and is kind of sad she never prints any of them anymore. I told her that's why I scrapbook. She said, "Yes, but who would want them when I'm gone?" I said, "I don't care about that. I make them for ME. My kid can have them when I'm done with them or when I'm gone and she probably will want them. But even if she doesn't, it doesn't lessen my enjoyment of making them or looking back through them myself." |
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Post by scrapnnana on Jun 13, 2016 12:02:50 GMT
I don't know where you are located but down here in the south we have a sayin' for such as this: "Now he's gone from preach in' to meddlin'." Was his thought based in scripture? I'm thinking not.  Personally, not only was your preacher "meddlin' " as she said, but I suspect that he didn't have a sermon prepared and just spoke off the cuff. He might have had a point in mind when he started, but it sounds like it went downhill after he got going. |
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 13, 2016 12:05:11 GMT
That's so sad. My entire family has always loved pictures and looking through them and reminiscing. We might not be able to do that someday with pictures posted on Facebook. Our neighbor friend was just lamenting about this yesterday. She isn't married and has no kids. She said she really likes looking through her photos on Facebook and is kind of sad she never prints any of them anymore. I told her that's why I scrapbook. She said, "Yes, but who would want them when I'm gone?" I said, "I don't care about that. I make them for ME. My kid can have them when I'm done with them or when I'm gone and she probably will want them. But even if she doesn't, it doesn't lessen my enjoyment of making them or looking back through them myself." That is why I pretty much immediately edit and order my photos. I went to my son's activity yesterday, came home, uploaded the pics of people and then ordered the ones I am going to want to scrap. I used to order and scrap all of them but now I am selective because I know I can't scrap everything before I die. I can get a 2 page spread done of an event but 25 or 30 photos of random people? No. |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 13, 2016 13:37:18 GMT
myboysnme I wish I could do it like you do. I need to get faster with my editing / cropping process. That is what slows me down to the point that I don't want to do it right away. I probably would get more pages done if I had photos ready to go but I never do. Then when I have a scrapping day planned I end up having to do a marathon editing session which makes it even worse because I'm rushing, trying to find sketches that match up with my photos and getting frustrated when things don't work the way I want them to. 
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 14:03:36 GMT
I don't see any need to speculate about the preacher's life--that's equally rude.
If you are a believer in the Bible, there's a Bible passage--1 Samuel 7--that speaks of establishing a physical reminder of God's goodness in our lives. Following a battle against his enemies, Samuel erected an Ebenezer stone to remind those who saw it that God had helped them overcome.
In some ways, a scrapbook could be used as a similar marker in your life--a reminder of God's goodness in our lives.
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Post by grammadee on Jun 13, 2016 14:44:31 GMT
Actually, he is a fun, positive person and he is a decent photographer. Posts some photos on facebook. He just kind off got off on a rabbit trail, I think after the hoarders thought. He and his wife like garage sales and she (or they) have LOTS of collections. Maybe he was preaching to himself! Thanks for clarifying this. I didn't mean to be mean about him. Just a little defensive about my scrapping activities, I guess! |
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 13, 2016 15:24:28 GMT
So today pastor said we need to be more giving. Then he got off on to hoarding. Then he got on ugly clocks and things our kids would not want. Then he really got off track and said no one was going to want our photos. And dh elbowed me. Guess this goes on the what did you get rid of this week thread. I hope you mean you got rid of your minister. What a jerk.
I got rid of a minister once. I even pulled my kids out of confirmation and we found a new church. He actually said the ills of the world were because mothers worked outside the home!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 21:43:31 GMT
He actually said the ills of the world were because mothers worked outside the home! That's a VERY common mindset in MANY, MANY churches/pastors I've visited or had the sadness to view online. It's never the fault of plastics, pesticides, lead in the water, PCBs in the caulk, GMOs, hormones in chickens, antibiotics in beef... Nope. The problems in the culture (poverty, illiteracy, violence, etc) are the fault of women going to work (as if women didn't fill up the factories of the late 19th and early 20th centuries). The frame of reference of those holding this belief is mainly the brief 10-15 years after WWII when middle class women generally went back home after the war and things were PERFECT (if you weren't poor, a minority, gay, a woman interested in something other than suburban motherhood, physically disabled...). |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 7:49:36 GMT
elaynef- I think that is the funniest sermon. Poor man must be dreading garage sale season. Wonder if his children tell him what I tell my Mom "Those are your treasures, not mine. I don't want to inherit them!" My Mom keeps insisting I want her little mice collection. No, I really don't, lol. Skipping_stones- "Now he's gone from preach in' to meddlin'." That is going to be my new quote! I laughed so hard when I read that. I live next door to a Baptist church. Actually two doors down from the church. The minister of the church is just an old curmudgeon that thinks he owns the block I live on. The only properties on the block are the home he owns but rents out, my home and his church. He comes over to our yard and complains about our trees. There is nothing wrong with our trees. He just hates trees. He has cut down all the trees on his property. He wants me to cut down my big maple tree that has been around since the Native Americans called my yard their home.  This year my husband planted two more trees and he has some baby maple trees he's raising, lol. The church is very sweet. He is just an elderly man set in his ways. Next time he comes over & I am going to tell him your quote.  ! |
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Post by woodysbetty on Jun 15, 2016 10:48:00 GMT
Your husband or the pastor? LOL I just snorted! LOL. Me too!!! |
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Post by scrapaddie on Jun 16, 2016 2:31:05 GMT
So today pastor said we need to be more giving. Then he got off on to hoarding. Then he got on ugly clocks and things our kids would not want. Then he really got off track and said no one was going to want our photos. And dh elbowed me. Guess this goes on the what did you get rid of this week thread. Please don't get rid of your Dh just because of this!!! He can be educated!! : |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 11:31:32 GMT
elaynef- I think that is the funniest sermon. Poor man must be dreading garage sale season. Wonder if his children tell him what I tell my Mom "Those are your treasures, not mine. I don't want to inherit them!" My Mom keeps insisting I want her little mice collection. No, I really don't, lol. Skipping_stones- "Now he's gone from preach in' to meddlin'." That is going to be my new quote! I laughed so hard when I read that. I live next door to a Baptist church. Actually two doors down from the church. The minister of the church is just an old curmudgeon that thinks he owns the block I live on. The only properties on the block are the home he owns but rents out, my home and his church. He comes over to our yard and complains about our trees. There is nothing wrong with our trees. He just hates trees. He has cut down all the trees on his property. He wants me to cut down my big maple tree that has been around since the Native Americans called my yard their home. This year my husband planted two more trees and he has some baby maple trees he's raising, lol. The church is very sweet. He is just an elderly man set in his ways. Next time he comes over & I am going to tell him your quote. ! Yes. So far, he only has 1 grandchild. He is very happy that this grandson has promised to take charge of their Christmas tree ornaments. I think he has a very long way to go with all their collections. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 11:37:32 GMT
So today pastor said we need to be more giving. Then he got off on to hoarding. Then he got on ugly clocks and things our kids would not want. Then he really got off track and said no one was going to want our photos. And dh elbowed me. Guess this goes on the what did you get rid of this week thread. Please don't get rid of your Dh just because of this!!! He can be educated!! : Not getting rid of dh. Without him, I would probably not be sbing. He is my photographer. And he is very supportive of my habit/hobby. He was even fairly tolerant when I first started and was cutting his pics into weird shapes. He did explain, however, that he had very carefully composed the scene that I had just taken scissors to. |
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Post by buggirl47 on Jun 16, 2016 20:14:18 GMT
Hoarding is sooo different than pictures or memory items. my BIL just passed 3 weeks ago. he was single, never married, no kids. he has over 10 boxes so far of just papers. bills from his mothers (from 1990, 91, etc) for insurance, pg&e, etc. she passed away in jan 97. that is a hoarder. can't get rid of anything. scrapbooking can make us hoarders if we are unable to get rid of stuff just to keep for that one special page but I have learned to start going through stuff and get rid of those items I will not be using in next 3-4 months. slow process but is worth it as I donate tons of bags to places.
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Post by buggirl47 on Jun 16, 2016 20:16:09 GMT
Please don't get rid of your Dh just because of this!!! He can be educated!! : Not getting rid of dh. Without him, I would probably not be sbing. He is my photographer. And he is very supportive of my habit/hobby. He was even fairly tolerant when I first started and was cutting his pics into weird shapes. He did explain, however, that he had very carefully composed the scene that I had just taken scissors to. Oh my gosh. you made me LOL at work. I was cutting a picture of my 8 month old son with sunglasses on into a hexagon at the beginning. my husband blew up. how dare I cut out the hotel mirror and dresser that was in the picture so at the beginning I made 2 copies. one to go into a photobox to never be seen again by hubby and one in to my albums that would be looked at for years. LOL |
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This year my husband planted two more trees and he has some baby maple trees he's raising, lol. The church is very sweet. He is just an elderly man set in his ways. Next time he comes over & I am going to tell him your quote. 
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