zella
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Post by zella on Jun 13, 2016 2:55:40 GMT
I've mentioned before that I've been ill with GI stuff. I'm having a really bad bout right now. I'm always told I "just" have irritable bowel, but I'm not buying it. I've looked at signs and symptoms of inflammatory bowel diseases, and they fit me except for not having blood in my stool. Is it possible to have IBD and not have the blood? I do ever have blood, but I know it's from hemorrhoids or a fissure.
I get terrible nausea, along with diarrhea that can be really bad (can't make it to the toilet in time), abdominal pain (the pain is diffuse, feels like my insides have been scraped raw). I also get a weird flushing rash on my face, neck, chest and upper back and I feel really hot. I don't vomit because I have a massive phobia (otherwise I would).
One thing that's been different in the last year and a half is that I've lost weight. Initially 35 lbs, then it was 40-45. This is just from feeling too ill to eat OR from a cause that hasn't yet been found. I did put back on a few pounds as I was doing better, but now I'm expecting I'll start losing again. Weight loss is common with IBD but virtually non-existent with IBS, so this is another reason the IBS diagnosis doesn't seem right.
This current episode began yesterday, when it was almost all nausea. Today I have all the above symptoms I mentioned above. Over the last 18 months I've had as many as 3-4 episodes in one week, and many times the episodes last multiple days. I don't have any foods that are always safe (i.e. won't make me feel much). I do know that corn (on the cob or popped) has a tendency to trigger pain and diarrhea, and I eat a very bland diet most of the time (unfortunately). The episodes come on with no warning, sometimes. And I never know when I'm going to feel ill.
My main goal in these times is to stay hydrated. I have a PICC line IV and had a bag of fluids earlier today (we do this at home).
I had an upper endoscopy done earlier this year and it was clear. I've been tested for gastroparesis. I've seen multiple GI drs in the last 18 months and none of them feel I have IBD. My own PCP has been out due to back surgery. She has stated this doesn't look like simple IBS. And let me tell you, it doesn't feel like something that simple either.
So can anyone shed some light on this for me? Could it be IBD without bleeding? Do these symptoms sound like IBD (or something else)? Also should mention I don't have a gallbladder or appendix, and my bloodwork over the last year has been almost entirely normal.
Thanks for your help.
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 13, 2016 3:03:14 GMT
I can't help but wanted to offer support. I have IBS too and have not had difficulty with it hardly at all since I went vegan. The veggies seem to make all the difference.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jun 13, 2016 3:13:24 GMT
Do you eat wheat and dairy? Have you been tested for Celiac? If you are underweight now what are you eating? Are you eating enough?
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Post by epeanymous on Jun 13, 2016 3:41:58 GMT
Have you had a colonoscopy? You didn't mention it, and that is I think how ulcerative colitis generally would be diagnosed.
I have UC, and I was diagnosed about 15 years ago. I had the symptoms you describe, pretty much all day every day, plus a ton of blood loss and dehydration. I saw a couple of doctors who said I was just a high-strung type-A twenty something woman, until I saw a gastroenterologist who did a colonoscopy and diagnosed me.
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Post by nlwilkins on Jun 13, 2016 4:32:43 GMT
I've had those symptoms before and it used to be pretty regular. Part of it was my lactose intolerence and but that did not explain it all. My face would get beet red and my mouth so dry that my tongue would get stuck to the roof of my mouth. Finally, my doctor put me on miralax to get thigs moving fast. I took it twice a day and that is what gave me back my life. There never was a diagnosis, just treatment that solved the problem. When the episodes would startl, my bowels would lock up, cramp and it would be hard to get anything moving again. Of course, until "things" started moving the pain and other symptoms would persist.
Now that I have had my gall bladder out, I don't take miralax anymore and I wonder if that is what was causing some of the issues. My gall bladder was so bad, that I went septic, yet did not have pain or other problems until the night that I had to go to the ER over it all.
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Post by hennybutton on Jun 13, 2016 4:53:49 GMT
If you haven't had a colonoscopy yet, insist on one. Don't take no for an answer. It's definitely warranted with your symptoms. The weight loss is particularly concerning. Not every IBD is accompanied by bleeding.
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jun 13, 2016 6:14:51 GMT
Ask to be tested for coeliac disease.
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Post by craftykitten on Jun 13, 2016 6:52:27 GMT
If you haven't had a colonoscopy yet, insist on one. Don't take no for an answer. It's definitely warranted with your symptoms. The weight loss is particularly concerning. Not every IBD is accompanied by bleeding. Yeah, that. What you are experiencing is not 'normal' and they need to find a cause. Hope you can get it sorted soon.
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Post by zella on Jun 13, 2016 7:04:16 GMT
Thanks, ladies.
I had a colonoscopy, but it was about 7 years ago. I can get one if I ask since our insurance pays for the screening colonoscopies every few years. I was having these issues when I had the prior test, but not nearly as severe and frequent; my colon was in tip-top shape, apparently. No sign of any disease. I've put off having another one because the prep is so hard on me, even doing the gatorade/miralax prep. But I think I am going to have to just do it.
I haven't been tested for celiac disease. I eat primarily vegetarian, with a little fish thrown in. I want to eat vegan, but it is really hard to do. However I don't and won't eat meat of any kind. I don't usually have trouble with constipation although I don't eat much produce (there are many veggies and possibly some fruits that are too hard on my digestive system if I'm feeling at all unwell). Today I was feeling better briefly and ate some plain crackers and cookies. Within half an hour I was far worse. At the rate things are going tonight, I probably won't eat tomorrow. And I'll probably need another bag of IV fluids.
As I'm typing this, it's just before midnight on Sunday. I desperately just want to sleep, but I'm still having waves of nausea plus feeling so hot and uncomfortable. And just to make it even worse my anxiety is flaring. DH is asleep beside me. I woke him up just now to get me some ice from downstairs. I hoped he'd stay awake with me, but he went straight back to sleep.
I've been doing so, so well emotionally. And I thought I was doing better physically. Right now I'm so discouraged. I hate feeling ill. And nausea is just the worst.
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Post by craftykitten on Jun 13, 2016 7:46:19 GMT
Sorry you feel so ill, I know it's awful. Do you drink peppermint tea? I used to find that helpful and soothing.
Some people with IBS and IBD find that a high-fibre diet with lots of veggies can make things worse. Going vegan is not always the answer.
I do think it's worth going back to the Dr, I'm sorry you've not had much luck. And I know you've had a lot of additional stress and I hate it when drs just say "it's because you're stressed" without really looking much further.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 8:48:46 GMT
I have IBS and frequent bouts of colitis. I agree with everyone saying to ask for a colonoscopy and maybe an endoscopy too. I found out parr of my problem is bleeding ulcers too. I get nauseated and when I start throwing up it's hard for me to stop. I don't know how you can control your body not to. In my experience with vomitting it would be like trying to impossibly control a sneeze. For me it's not doable. If I try to hold it in because nothing is around me to throw up in, it turns explosive.
Probiotics have helped me when I'm consistent. Also eliminating gluten and sugar helps a ton! I hope you feel better soon. Stress definitely triggers it for me. I missed my own grandma's memorial because I had a colitis attack and couldn't leave the bathroom.
I hope you feel better soon. Nausea is the worst.
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Post by lesserknownpea on Jun 13, 2016 9:21:54 GMT
I'm off wheat, dairy and meat. I find good probiotics to be s huge help.
But stress will bring it on in an instant.
Immodium and Xanax. My two best friends
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 10:11:25 GMT
I have registered just to be able to answer your question.
For almost 20 years Ulcerative Colitis was my diagnosis; I only had blood evidence twice in all that time, so yes, it's possible to have IBD and not have blood. However, the diagnosis is wrong; I have Crohn's Disease, always have, and because of that mistake they missed the signs and it almost killed me. Until the story below I'd had only two "flare ups" as the are known; my original one for diagnosis in 1998, and a second in 2005.
Starting in 2008 I had your symptoms; abdominal pain, felt red raw, food felt like glass all the way down from the moment of eating. I had gastroscopy/colonoscopy - nothing found. I had another colonoscopy in 2010 - no active disease they said, in remission. Like you, my bloodwork was normal, another reason they didn't believe me.
I tried all diets over the next 6 years. My symptoms worsened from nausea occasionally until in 2014 I was on anti-sickness meds all day, every day and had lost over 42lbs in that last year. I had constant pain but no blood. I could do nothing but sit on the sofa; I barely slept.
In January 2015 I went into hospital as an emergency after one doctor I saw said he could feel a mass in my abdomen. In the hospital they were sceptical; and I wasn't rolling around the bed screaming in pain.
Eventually, about four days later they gave me x-rays with some dye and a CT scan. Suddenly, they were all very solicitous.
They found an inflammatory mass in my bowel, where the small intestine joins the large intestine; a common place for such masses when you have Crohn's Disease, and not visible when I had colonoscopy, it doesn't go far enough, nor a gastroscopy because it's past the stomach - no man's land if you like. I'd been cultivating it for quite a while.
A week later I had surgery; 1 meter of small intestine was removed and the surgeon said it was a mess and wondered how it had been missed and how I'd lived with it for so long. Any longer, weeks probably, and I wouldn't be writing this.
Please, go get tests; ask for a scan, get them to prod and poke, even if it hurts. You have lived with it long enough, exactly as I did. I know in the USA you have to pay, but honestly, it's not worth the risk.
Eighteen months on I am still recovering; oh I'm much better, I can eat for one thing, and the Crohn's is quiet, but all those years thinking, "It's my diet/gluten/dairy/chocolate biscuits/stress/red meat..." was a waste.
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Post by raindancer on Jun 13, 2016 10:59:14 GMT
I agree. It sounds like crohns disease and my dh was also incorrectly diagnosed with UC. Also fruits and vegetables wreak even more havoc when he is in a flare. So your vegetarian diet may be hurting you without you realizing it.
He also just had 2 feet of small intestine removed in March. He was severely anemic even though he had not seen any blood, he was bleeding.
Where are you located? If you live in a mid to small size town I would strongly recommend traveling to a large city to find a great GI doc. I have found that in smaller cities all the GI docs, for example, won't contradict each other so a second opinion is worthless.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jun 13, 2016 16:17:06 GMT
You need a much bigger workup. Its impossible to tell you that you don't have IBD w/o a recent colonoscopy. Which motility tests they give you when they told you that you don't have gastroparesis? There a number of motility issues that you might have. You might need a gi at a major hospital to do a really in depth workup on your intestines and small bowel. Push for that. I wish you answers and recovery very soon.
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Post by keesha on Jun 14, 2016 1:05:22 GMT
Your story is mine. I had various symptoms from teen years on but escalated when in late 30's. Even though I had a younger sister with severe crohns (who was diagnosed and almost died from it at 13) it was never considered because "I wasn't bleeding". I didn't know better because my sister had heavy bleeding as a symptom so I believed what dr's were telling me. I now know that if it's in your colon you will have noticeable blood , mine however was entirely in my small intestine so that was not evident. The test that diagnosed me was an xray - upper GI with a small bowel follow thru. They had no trouble seeing the pipe was clogged and the barium I drank was struggling to get thru! Now CT scans are good enough to see this (so I am told). 1 month and alot of prednisone later I had surgery with the last 3 feet of my small intestine removed along with the appendix and illeo-cecal valve. First YOU ARE NOT CRAZY. I had so many misdiagnoses the year prior and "it's in my head" was included. I started to believe this! I could have written everything you did symptom-wise. Crohns is very difficult to diagnose and involves a lot of ruling things out. Repeated inflammation from flares results in scar tissue. Your small intestine is where you absorb key fat soluble vitamins (A, D, E, K,) & B12. Deficiencies in these cause a number of symptoms. Add that to the disease itself and of course you will sound like a hypochondriac when you go to the doctor. Luckily I had a primary care at my sickest that even after ruling out everything possible believed me when I said something is very wrong we need to keep going. She sent me to the gastro and pulled strings to get me in "early" (which was 2 months instead of 6 haha). He was an idiot but that's another story . He did a colonoscopy which showed nothing. I had to request every test he did and learned what to ask for on the internet. Of course he took all the credit for the diagnosis. I would be happy to share more if you like... just ask! doh - editing to add I have crohns
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Post by MsChiff on Jun 14, 2016 3:45:55 GMT
I have registered just to be able to answer your question. For almost 20 years Ulcerative Colitis was my diagnosis; I only had blood evidence twice in all that time, so yes, it's possible to have IBD and not have blood. However, the diagnosis is wrong; I have Crohn's Disease, always have, and because of that mistake they missed the signs and it almost killed me. Until the story below I'd had only two "flare ups" as the are known; my original one for diagnosis in 1998, and a second in 2005. Starting in 2008 I had your symptoms; abdominal pain, felt red raw, food felt like glass all the way down from the moment of eating. I had gastroscopy/colonoscopy - nothing found. I had another colonoscopy in 2010 - no active disease they said, in remission. Like you, my bloodwork was normal, another reason they didn't believe me. I tried all diets over the next 6 years. My symptoms worsened from nausea occasionally until in 2014 I was on anti-sickness meds all day, every day and had lost over 42lbs in that last year. I had constant pain but no blood. I could do nothing but sit on the sofa; I barely slept. In January 2015 I went into hospital as an emergency after one doctor I saw said he could feel a mass in my abdomen. In the hospital they were sceptical; and I wasn't rolling around the bed screaming in pain. Eventually, about four days later they gave me x-rays with some dye and a CT scan. Suddenly, they were all very solicitous. They found an inflammatory mass in my bowel, where the small intestine joins the large intestine; a common place for such masses when you have Crohn's Disease, and not visible when I had colonoscopy, it doesn't go far enough, nor a gastroscopy because it's past the stomach - no man's land if you like. I'd been cultivating it for quite a while.A week later I had surgery; 1 meter of small intestine was removed and the surgeon said it was a mess and wondered how it had been missed and how I'd lived with it for so long. Any longer, weeks probably, and I wouldn't be writing this. Please, go get tests; ask for a scan, get them to prod and poke, even if it hurts. You have lived with it long enough, exactly as I did. I know in the USA you have to pay, but honestly, it's not worth the risk. Eighteen months on I am still recovering; oh I'm much better, I can eat for one thing, and the Crohn's is quiet, but all those years thinking, "It's my diet/gluten/dairy/chocolate biscuits/stress/red meat..." was a waste. I have Crohn's and have a stricture in the same spot and they can see it on colonoscopy as I've been told a number of times that they can't go past because of the stricture. I don't know why your doctors couldn't see yours on colonoscopy. OP -- I don't have bleeding with my IBD. I also don't have the symptoms you describe. The only time I'm nauseous and vomiting is when I have a full or partial bowel obstruction (I've had more than a few). Like the others, I highly recommend you have a colonoscopy. And if that doesn't show anything, ask for a MRI or CT with contrast. In the interim, I recommend you keep a food diary and note how you feel after eating different foods; see if there is a pattern. Also, eat a low fiber diet. Fish, chicken/turkey or ground meat, eggs, yogurt, white rice, white pasta, mashed potatoes, soup, smoothies or well cooked or canned vegetables and fruit. No raw fruits and vegetables and limit (ideally avoid) spicy and acidic food. More small meals are better than few big meals. The idea is to make your colon work as little as possible to digest your food. I would also consider omitting gluten and dairy, although if you omit gluten now, they can't test you for celiac when they do your colonoscopy. I find probiotics help, although I've never found a GI doc that endorses them. It sounds like your colon is really sick and needs TLC. SaveSave
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Post by zella on Jun 14, 2016 20:14:13 GMT
I have IBS and frequent bouts of colitis. I agree with everyone saying to ask for a colonoscopy and maybe an endoscopy too. I found out parr of my problem is bleeding ulcers too. I get nauseated and when I start throwing up it's hard for me to stop. I don't know how you can control your body not to. In my experience with vomitting it would be like trying to impossibly control a sneeze. For me it's not doable. If I try to hold it in because nothing is around me to throw up in, it turns explosive. Probiotics have helped me when I'm consistent. Also eliminating gluten and sugar helps a ton! I hope you feel better soon. Stress definitely triggers it for me. I missed my own grandma's memorial because I had a colitis attack and couldn't leave the bathroom. I hope you feel better soon. Nausea is the worst. You clearly know my pain. Nausea is indeed the worst. I'd rather have pain every day. My daughter, interestingly, has difficulty stopping once she starts throwing up. That's been the case since she was a baby. I have developed very strong control mechanisms, I guess. It's so sad about missing your grandma's memorial. Other than probiotics does anything help you, or do you just have to live with it?
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Post by zella on Jun 14, 2016 20:22:23 GMT
I have registered just to be able to answer your question. For almost 20 years Ulcerative Colitis was my diagnosis; I only had blood evidence twice in all that time, so yes, it's possible to have IBD and not have blood. However, the diagnosis is wrong; I have Crohn's Disease, always have, and because of that mistake they missed the signs and it almost killed me. Until the story below I'd had only two "flare ups" as the are known; my original one for diagnosis in 1998, and a second in 2005. Starting in 2008 I had your symptoms; abdominal pain, felt red raw, food felt like glass all the way down from the moment of eating. I had gastroscopy/colonoscopy - nothing found. I had another colonoscopy in 2010 - no active disease they said, in remission. Like you, my bloodwork was normal, another reason they didn't believe me. I tried all diets over the next 6 years. My symptoms worsened from nausea occasionally until in 2014 I was on anti-sickness meds all day, every day and had lost over 42lbs in that last year. I had constant pain but no blood. I could do nothing but sit on the sofa; I barely slept. In January 2015 I went into hospital as an emergency after one doctor I saw said he could feel a mass in my abdomen. In the hospital they were sceptical; and I wasn't rolling around the bed screaming in pain. Eventually, about four days later they gave me x-rays with some dye and a CT scan. Suddenly, they were all very solicitous. They found an inflammatory mass in my bowel, where the small intestine joins the large intestine; a common place for such masses when you have Crohn's Disease, and not visible when I had colonoscopy, it doesn't go far enough, nor a gastroscopy because it's past the stomach - no man's land if you like. I'd been cultivating it for quite a while. A week later I had surgery; 1 meter of small intestine was removed and the surgeon said it was a mess and wondered how it had been missed and how I'd lived with it for so long. Any longer, weeks probably, and I wouldn't be writing this. Please, go get tests; ask for a scan, get them to prod and poke, even if it hurts. You have lived with it long enough, exactly as I did. I know in the USA you have to pay, but honestly, it's not worth the risk. Eighteen months on I am still recovering; oh I'm much better, I can eat for one thing, and the Crohn's is quiet, but all those years thinking, "It's my diet/gluten/dairy/chocolate biscuits/stress/red meat..." was a waste. Thank you so, so much for doing this. I'm barely eating anything right now. Yes, it does include wheat, but no dairy for several days. Bland foods are all I can tolerate and many of those are wheat. I also tell myself that entire nations (e.g. France) consume huge amounts of wheat and they aren't all sick. If I cut out everything that might be bad, I'll be stuck with only drinking water, I think. Cause even ginger ale and the ginger lozenges I've been sucking on have sugar. Are you on any medication now? Oh, and we have excellent insurance and met our deductibles for the year a long time ago, so the part we have to pay is small; so no problems there, thank goodness.
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Post by zella on Jun 14, 2016 20:26:28 GMT
I agree. It sounds like crohns disease and my dh was also incorrectly diagnosed with UC. Also fruits and vegetables wreak even more havoc when he is in a flare. So your vegetarian diet may be hurting you without you realizing it. He also just had 2 feet of small intestine removed in March. He was severely anemic even though he had not seen any blood, he was bleeding. Where are you located? If you live in a mid to small size town I would strongly recommend traveling to a large city to find a great GI doc. I have found that in smaller cities all the GI docs, for example, won't contradict each other so a second opinion is worthless. I avoid all fruits and veggies when I'm in a flare like this. Even when I'm not, I'm a very picky eater, so not a typical vegetarian diet at all. I live outside of Seattle. I've been going to the GI department of one of the major hospitals. I'm seriously considering trying one of the other ones because I feel as though I just keep getting the run around. I was actually hospitalized, finally, early this year (though we almost had to beg for that), which is when I had the endoscopy, but still no answers or truly helpful treatment (other than the suggestion of getting a PICC line so I could do fluids at home).
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Post by zella on Jun 14, 2016 20:32:15 GMT
You need a much bigger workup. Its impossible to tell you that you don't have IBD w/o a recent colonoscopy. Which motility tests they give you when they told you that you don't have gastroparesis? There a number of motility issues that you might have. You might need a gi at a major hospital to do a really in depth workup on your intestines and small bowel. Push for that. I wish you answers and recovery very soon. Thank you. The motility study I had was a standard one, I gather. I was given eggs with a radioactive tracer, and they took a scan at something like 1, 2 and 3 hours after eating. As I said above, this actually WAS at a major hospital, one that boasts awards, top ten/100 lists, things like that. I think because I don't fit easily into a category they don't take me seriously. That's my thinking, anyway.
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Post by keesha on Jun 14, 2016 20:38:33 GMT
zella have you had a CT scan with contrast?
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Post by zella on Jun 14, 2016 20:40:14 GMT
Your story is mine. I had various symptoms from teen years on but escalated when in late 30's. Even though I had a younger sister with severe crohns (who was diagnosed and almost died from it at 13) it was never considered because "I wasn't bleeding". I didn't know better because my sister had heavy bleeding as a symptom so I believed what dr's were telling me. I now know that if it's in your colon you will have noticeable blood , mine however was entirely in my small intestine so that was not evident. The test that diagnosed me was an xray - upper GI with a small bowel follow thru. They had no trouble seeing the pipe was clogged and the barium I drank was struggling to get thru! Now CT scans are good enough to see this (so I am told). 1 month and alot of prednisone later I had surgery with the last 3 feet of my small intestine removed along with the appendix and illeo-cecal valve. First YOU ARE NOT CRAZY. I had so many misdiagnoses the year prior and "it's in my head" was included. I started to believe this! I could have written everything you did symptom-wise. Crohns is very difficult to diagnose and involves a lot of ruling things out. Repeated inflammation from flares results in scar tissue. Your small intestine is where you absorb key fat soluble vitamins (A, D, E, K,) & B12. Deficiencies in these cause a number of symptoms. Add that to the disease itself and of course you will sound like a hypochondriac when you go to the doctor. Luckily I had a primary care at my sickest that even after ruling out everything possible believed me when I said something is very wrong we need to keep going. She sent me to the gastro and pulled strings to get me in "early" (which was 2 months instead of 6 haha). He was an idiot but that's another story . He did a colonoscopy which showed nothing. I had to request every test he did and learned what to ask for on the internet. Of course he took all the credit for the diagnosis. I would be happy to share more if you like... just ask! doh - editing to add I have crohns Thank you so much, and yes, please do share more. Was nausea a big problem for you? What if any treatment are you on now? I actually am B12 deficient, but that may be due to a medication I'm taking. You can PM me if you like, if you'd rather share more that way.
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Post by zella on Jun 14, 2016 20:40:39 GMT
zella have you had a CT scan with contrast? Yes, about a year ago.
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Post by zella on Jun 14, 2016 20:47:30 GMT
I have Crohn's and have a stricture in the same spot and they can see it on colonoscopy as I've been told a number of times that they can't go past because of the stricture. I don't know why your doctors couldn't see yours on colonoscopy. OP -- I don't have bleeding with my IBD. I also don't have the symptoms you describe. The only time I'm nauseous and vomiting is when I have a full or partial bowel obstruction (I've had more than a few). Like the others, I highly recommend you have a colonoscopy. And if that doesn't show anything, ask for a MRI or CT with contrast. In the interim, I recommend you keep a food diary and note how you feel after eating different foods; see if there is a pattern. Also, eat a low fiber diet. Fish, chicken/turkey or ground meat, eggs, yogurt, white rice, white pasta, mashed potatoes, soup, smoothies or well cooked or canned vegetables and fruit. No raw fruits and vegetables and limit (ideally avoid) spicy and acidic food. More small meals are better than few big meals. The idea is to make your colon work as little as possible to digest your food. I would also consider omitting gluten and dairy, although if you omit gluten now, they can't test you for celiac when they do your colonoscopy. I find probiotics help, although I've never found a GI doc that endorses them. It sounds like your colon is really sick and needs TLC. SaveSaveI won't eat meat. I try to eat eggs occasionally, but honestly I don't like them much. I'm eating so little right now, it's all low fiber. Spicy and acidic food holds no appeal (I do miss coffee. . . haven't had one since this flare started). In the past as I've kept note I've not been able to find a food trigger or pattern at all other than the aforementioned corn. When I'm really bad, ANY food can make me feel more ill. I'm trying to remember to take my probiotics. I have a good quality brand and I keep it in the fridge; tend to forget it when I'm not going into the fridge to eat, lol!
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Post by keesha on Jun 14, 2016 23:02:49 GMT
Nausea was a huge problem. It was so bad at times I would have rather had excruciating pain! I believe it's from being dehydrated and the stomach acids and bile backing up. In the years before I was diagnosed I would not eat or as little as possible to cope with symptoms. That bowel rest was just enough to calm things down. Over the years the scar tissue built up, created the narrowing strictures and eventually completely blocked it to the point I couldn't drink water without throwing up. I had the surgery a few days later. I did have 2 doses of Remicade prior to surgery. That was when it was very new. I have been on every med available and have stopped short at doing Humira. I had side effects from everything to that point and for me I felt I was trading one set of symptoms for the ones caused by the medications. If my weight was so low I couldn't use fasting for bowel rest and symptom relief I would consider meds. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I don't have that issue right now. Much to my dr's dismay I am not on any meds.I do feel the crohns is not as severe as it was when I was younger(I am 55). I have been using diet (Specific Carb Diet) as much as possible and it helps greatly. I never found any one food that was a trigger or that made things worse when you are really feeling bad.Like you said-when you are sick it all is bad! Simple carbs though are the worst at all times. Cut out sugar and grains, focus on clean protein and cook vegies (no starch vegies like potatoes though) really well. Unsweetened applesauce is nice to have in those little individual cups. I make my own greek yogurt every week. I am not eating grains but I used to eat the Ezekiel bread toasted with some butter. I used to not eat meat -- but soy is out and I do feel better eating some meat. Watch out for probiotics - there are some that can make you feel worse. I will look for the info on that. I know I bought some expensive ones and had to throw them out. I seem to have flares in the spring and fall. I have read that seasonal allergens can trigger inflammation which can trigger crohns. I used to attribute the October flares to Halloween candy If your B12 is low insist on injections. I give myself a shot every month. If it's low it's because your body isn't absorbing so supplements aren't reliable. There is a protocol to build it back up (shot every day-week-then go to monthly). When that was low (discovered post surgery for me) I would lose balance and fall while walking, drop things, lose bladder control spontaneously, had serious short term memory loss--it's amazing what that small amount of vitamin does. I hope this wasn't too rambling and some of it helps!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 21:22:50 GMT
I wish I had better answers, nothing really helps right now. I'm staying with my cousin and his family and I'm just trying to adapt. Like instead of spaghetti, I had the noodles with butter and Parmesan cheese. I can't handle anything acidic. I do better without gluten. I've had way too much bread lately.
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Post by roberta on Jun 16, 2016 3:39:33 GMT
There is a condition that a very very small % of patients get when they have their gallbladder removed. It is called bile salt diarrhea. The GI tract is unable to adjust to the bile going directly into the intestine, instead of being stored in the gallbladder and then going into the GI tract. It can be treated with Colestipol tabs (or Questran powder). Some believe that patients with IBD/IBS are more likely to get it. The diarrhea will occur 24-72 hours after eating fatty foods (or eating something somewhat fatty but not with other non-fatty foods) the usual diarrhea meds have ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT on the diarrhea once it is present. It can be very painful and there is no blood. It seems to come out of nowhere. You can feel fine and it quickly manifest. Whenever the Intestines are "in distress" it is not unusual for there to be nausea and vomiting. It is a system and the n/v is just part of the system reacting to the distress. (I have simplified it here).
there is also the possibility of food allergies.
You mentioned an endoscopy but have they also done a colonoscopy?
if your doctors have not considered these, then you may want to discuss them with your MD and see if it is a possibility for your situation.
(I did not read every post here so I apologize if this was already mentioned.)
good luck with this!
i would strongly recommend that you keep a food diary and an "output" diary for a few weeks to see if you can find a pattern to this. It might help.
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Post by roberta on Jun 16, 2016 3:54:27 GMT
Crohns sounds like a possibility.
After reading all the posts it does not sound like BSD but perhaps you have several things going on. A friend of mine has Reflux, IBS, BSD and diverticulosis. It can get pretty confusing what is causing a flare up at times!
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