momto4kiddos
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Post by momto4kiddos on Jun 16, 2016 12:48:29 GMT
I can't seem to find a video for what i'm looking for (probably my wording.) Anyway I have a pattern that I want to make, but I don't know how to change colors for it correctly. Basically it's changing colors every two stitches...
So the first part is ribbing - 2 stitches would be knit in gray, but the 2 purls need to be in blue. knit 2 gray, purl 2 blue, knit 2 gray, purl 2 blue around.
So how do I carry the yarn across? I know how to lock the yarn in so as not to get holes, but going across 2 stitches is going to leave yarn across the backs, which i'd think is not preferred. Can anyone give advice or find a video? Would appreciate the help, thanks.
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Post by STBC on Jun 16, 2016 12:58:50 GMT
The yarn just goes across the back...look up Fair Isle knitting. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 13:01:05 GMT
VeryPink Knits on Youtube had some good videos on Fair Isle knitting. link |
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Post by Rhondito on Jun 16, 2016 14:54:24 GMT
You pick up the new color from under the first color. This secures the yarn in the back. Make a practice swatch to get used to it.
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Post by elaine on Jun 16, 2016 15:00:07 GMT
Are you sure that the ribbing also alternates colors? It is very rare to have fair isle ribbing. The yarn carried behind the back would limit the stretch of the ribbing unless your strands across the back were very loose when the garment was not being worn - and then that would cause other problems like snagging.
I have never seen fair isle ribbing before - only in the body of the work (usually stockinette). The ribbing is always single-colored in every fair isle pattern I have seen.
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Post by elaine on Jun 16, 2016 15:04:53 GMT
Or are you talking about Brioche Stitch Knitting? That produces a ribbed fabric with two colors.
A link to your pattern will help.
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Post by sueg on Jun 16, 2016 15:13:56 GMT
Are you sure that the ribbing also alternates colors? It is very rare to have fair isle ribbing. The yarn carried behind the back would limit the stretch of the ribbing unless your strands across the back were very loose when the garment was not being worn - and then that would cause other problems like snagging. I have never seen fair isle ribbing before - only in the body of the work (usually stockinette). The ribbing is always single-colored in every fair isle pattern I have seen. It is actually not uncommon to have 2 colored ribbing in Fair Isle - it is generally known as 'corrugated ribbing' and isn't meant to stretch like regular ribbing.  |
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Post by sueg on Jun 16, 2016 15:15:43 GMT
You pick up the new color from under the first color. This secures the yarn in the back. Make a practice swatch to get used to it. I have never done that with Fair Isle knitting, only Intarsia - where you have blocks of color, and don't strand across the entire row. In Fair Isle (stranded) you should have one color on top and one underneath - it gives greater stretch, looks neater and helps with 'color dominance' issues. |
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Post by Rhondito on Jun 16, 2016 15:19:32 GMT
You pick up the new color from under the first color. This secures the yarn in the back. Make a practice swatch to get used to it. I have never done that with Fair Isle knitting, only Intarsia - where you have blocks of color, and don't strand across the entire row. In Fair Isle (stranded) you should have one color on top and one underneath - it gives greater stretch, looks neater and helps with 'color dominance' issues. That's not how I was taught nor how I do it, and I've been knitting for 30+ years. Save |
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Post by sueg on Jun 16, 2016 15:20:14 GMT
I have never done that with Fair Isle knitting, only Intarsia - where you have blocks of color, and don't strand across the entire row. In Fair Isle (stranded) you should have one color on top and one underneath - it gives greater stretch, looks neater and helps with 'color dominance' issues. That's not how I was taught nor how I do it, and I've been knitting for 30+ years. SaveSo have I. It is also how any book on Fair Isle I have read explains how to do it, and how it was shown in the Craftsy FI course I watched. |
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Post by elaine on Jun 16, 2016 15:31:47 GMT
Are you sure that the ribbing also alternates colors? It is very rare to have fair isle ribbing. The yarn carried behind the back would limit the stretch of the ribbing unless your strands across the back were very loose when the garment was not being worn - and then that would cause other problems like snagging. I have never seen fair isle ribbing before - only in the body of the work (usually stockinette). The ribbing is always single-colored in every fair isle pattern I have seen. It is actually not uncommon to have 2 colored ribbing in Fair Isle - it is generally known as 'corrugated ribbing' and isn't meant to stretch like regular ribbing. Beautiful sweater! I don't often knit fair isle, so don't have as much experience as you do. I guess I have only been drawn to simpler patterns with single color ribbing. Most of my fair isle has been mittens and socks.  |
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Post by sueg on Jun 16, 2016 15:36:47 GMT
It is actually not uncommon to have 2 colored ribbing in Fair Isle - it is generally known as 'corrugated ribbing' and isn't meant to stretch like regular ribbing. Beautiful sweater! I don't often knit fair isle, so don't have as much experience as you do. I guess I have only been drawn to simpler patterns with single color ribbing. Most of my fair isle has been mittens and socks. It is not my sweater! This is a pattern by Alice Starmore, who is an older knitter who was born and brought up on Fair Isle. She has written many books on Traditional Scottish knitting, but particularly Fair Isle styled stranded knits. Her patterns are exquisite, and usually have at least 10 colors in them. I've knit a few Fair Isle sweaters in my time, but haven't been brave enough to tackle an AS! |
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Jun 16, 2016 15:47:27 GMT
Are you sure that the ribbing also alternates colors? It is very rare to have fair isle ribbing. The yarn carried behind the back would limit the stretch of the ribbing unless your strands across the back were very loose when the garment was not being worn - and then that would cause other problems like snagging. I have never seen fair isle ribbing before - only in the body of the work (usually stockinette). The ribbing is always single-colored in every fair isle pattern I have seen. It is actually not uncommon to have 2 colored ribbing in Fair Isle - it is generally known as 'corrugated ribbing' and isn't meant to stretch like regular ribbing. I have done 1 X 1 rib fair isle, but not 2 X 2. To the OP, do you knit continental or throw? I think the easiest way to do what you're describing is to hold each color in one hand--throw with one, and pick with the other. |
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Post by sueg on Jun 16, 2016 15:51:58 GMT
I have done 1 X 1 rib fair isle, but not 2 X 2. To the OP, do you knit continental or throw? I think the easiest way to do what you're describing is to hold each color in one hand--throw with one, and pick with the other. I've done both - you do need to be a bit careful with 2x2, so as not to pull the floats too tight. I agree with holding one color in each hand - I am usually an English style 'flicker', but can do enough Continental for stranded work. It actually helps that my Continental is a bit looser than my regular style, as it helps keep my floats nice and loose. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 16:03:46 GMT
I agree with holding it in two hands. I'm an English knitter, but I can knit with a strand in each hand like nobody's business, but drop that right strand to try to knit Continental and all of a sudden my left hand becomes stupid.
I believe I've read somewhere that 3 is the maximum amount of stitches you should float a strand.
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Post by sueg on Jun 16, 2016 16:08:26 GMT
I believe I've read somewhere that 3 is the maximum amount of stitches you should float a strand. I've read up to 5, but it depends a bit on the yarn weight - I'd float over more stitches in fingering than in worsted for example. Not floating over too many stitches is the reason you get so many little 'in between' patterns and stitches in some of the larger stranded designs, like snowflakes and bigger flowers. |
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Post by momto4kiddos on Jun 16, 2016 17:00:40 GMT
www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/kinosHere's a link to the pattern. It's called Kinos. I'm going to go back through the responses and get reading and will come back later to see if there is any more advice. Thanks! Editing to add: The sweater ribbing looks just like what i'm trying to do. I was concerned about floating the yarn over the 2 stitches and had wondered if there was a better way. Hopefully the pattern helps visual my issue, lol.
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Post by KiwiJo on Jun 16, 2016 17:40:13 GMT
www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/kinosHere's a link to the pattern. It's called Kinos. I'm going to go back through the responses and get reading and will come back later to see if there is any more advice. Thanks! Editing to add: The sweater ribbing looks just like what i'm trying to do. I was concerned about floating the yarn over the 2 stitches and had wondered if there was a better way. Hopefully the pattern helps visual my issue, lol. There is no problem floating the yarn over 2 stitches - floats are often longer than that. You could ask about it though, on the Tecniques forum on Ravelry; there are so many expert knitters there who love helping others. You may also get replies from others who have knitted that pattern. it looks a great pattern! What colours are you using? Looking at the projects I see that some have used lots of colours and others just 2 or 3 - they are all stunning! |
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Post by elaine on Jun 16, 2016 19:57:38 GMT
www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/kinosHere's a link to the pattern. It's called Kinos. I'm going to go back through the responses and get reading and will come back later to see if there is any more advice. Thanks! Editing to add: The sweater ribbing looks just like what i'm trying to do. I was concerned about floating the yarn over the 2 stitches and had wondered if there was a better way. Hopefully the pattern helps visual my issue, lol. Cute pattern!! If you look on the pics of it on her (the designer) blog, you can see the floated yarn in the cuffs:  ![]() |
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