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Post by caro on Jun 17, 2016 13:57:35 GMT
What?  Why would they be charged with anything? I'm sorry but I don't understand this at all. It was an unimaginable accident. Even Nancy Grace talked about being on that same beach when her twins were two and being right at waters edge. She never once thought about a gator. I cannot imagine the pain these parents feel. |
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Jun 17, 2016 14:01:07 GMT
What? Why would they be charged with anything? I'm sorry but I don't understand this at all. It was an unimaginable accident. Even Nancy Grace talked about being on that same beach when her twins were two and being right at waters edge. She never once thought about a gator. I cannot imagine the pain these parents feel. Because our society thinks someone has to be to blame. Accidents don't just happen. Even on here many people said the parents should have known there was a chance of gators in the water. BTW - I do not think any charges should be brought. The parents did nothing wrong. They will be reliving this nightmare the rest of their lives. Prayers for them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 14:02:43 GMT
Due diligence is doing an investigation of any accident and coming to a conclusion. While in the investigation process there is still a chance in case they come across more evidence, etc. While that conclusion may seem like it should have been known the whole time, there still has to be a conclusion made once the investigation is complete. This clears the innocent party and documents it. I guess I just watch too many crime/accident shows though because to me this is standard procedure.
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Post by scorpeao on Jun 17, 2016 14:04:27 GMT
I can't imagine them being charged either. I understand there was a "no swimming" sign, but I wouldn't consider feet in the water swimming...if gators were that much of a danger they should have that information posted as well. I'm not from Florida, so I had NO idea that gators roam the streets in search of ponds. And, being WDW, I would think that Disney would have gator abatement programs in place to ensure their lagoons were gator free. Furthermore, why isn't there staff posted around the lagoons to tell people to warn people? Heck, they have staff that will kick me out of the park if I merely spit on the ground. Now, the mother whose kid fell into the gorilla enclosure at the zoo? SHE should be charged!
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Jun 17, 2016 14:07:24 GMT
Due diligence is doing an investigation of any accident and coming to a conclusion. While in the investigation process there is still a chance in case they come across more evidence, etc. While that conclusion may seem like it should have been known the whole time, there still has to be a conclusion made once the investigation is complete. This clears the innocent party and documents it. I guess I just watch too many crime/accident shows though because to me this is standard procedure. This makes sense. I am guessing many times what at first may have seemed like an accident proved to be something else. |
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Post by pierkiss on Jun 17, 2016 14:11:32 GMT
Good. There's nothing to charge them with!!!
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 17, 2016 14:17:09 GMT
What? Why would they be charged with anything? Because our society thinks someone has to be to blame. BTW - I do not think any charges should be brought. The parents did nothing wrong. They will be reliving this nightmare the rest of their lives. Prayers for them. ITA. The mere thought that they could be charged would just be insult on top of injury. |
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Post by Nink on Jun 17, 2016 14:25:04 GMT
Like the poster above said. While they probably know it was just a very tragic accident, they still have to investigate and interview eyewitnesses etc to cover the bases. I've seen stories where things look like a tragic accident, but then come to find out, nope.
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 17, 2016 14:41:46 GMT
Due diligence is doing an investigation of any accident and coming to a conclusion. While in the investigation process there is still a chance in case they come across more evidence, etc. While that conclusion may seem like it should have been known the whole time, there still has to be a conclusion made once the investigation is complete. This clears the innocent party and documents it. I guess I just watch too many crime/accident shows though because to me this is standard procedure.  It is part of the process. When this horrible story first broke, MANY were questioning where the parents were and assuming some sort of negligence. The way the news reports the investigation conclusions implies the parents were actively under investigation, but I don't think that was ever the case. SaveSave |
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Post by MichyM on Jun 17, 2016 16:25:03 GMT
I have stayed out of this, but I agree. Why would it even be considered. I am so grateful I'm done raising my child, I would hate to have the entire internet/world judging me after a tragic accident. Sheesh.
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Post by grinningcat on Jun 17, 2016 16:26:49 GMT
I don't think there should be charges laid, it was definitely an accident but I will admit to side-eyeing anyone who goes in the water where "no swimming" signs are posted. But even with that, there's no charges to be had, even though investigators did have to do their due diligence.
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Post by ChicagoKTS on Jun 17, 2016 16:37:17 GMT
There has to be a routine investigation into any accident resulting in a death to definitively decide it was an accident. It's just the way things are done. The authorities can't assume anything is an accident without gathering facts, witness statements, evidence, etc. I doubt anyone thought it was anything other than a horrible, tragic accident but until you cross the tees and dots the eyes, the case cannot be closed.
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Post by papersilly on Jun 17, 2016 16:55:34 GMT
for the same reason they do autopsies when the cause of death is clear----due diligence. people are just doing their jobs and following procedure even if they know the outcome of that investigation. people know it was an accident and the investigation isn't targeting the parents in hopes of finding something. it's just procedure. it's the media that like to stir the pot. sensationalism sells.
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Post by creativegirl on Jun 17, 2016 17:11:05 GMT
Because our society thinks someone has to be to blame. Accidents don't just happen. Even on here many people said the parents should have known there was a chance of gators in the water. We do that as an odd self-soothing mechanism."Well it wouldn't happen to ME because..." It has nothing to do with the parents in question and everything to do with our own fears. Doesn't make it any less hurtful to them to have accusations thrown about though. I have a two year old myself and this story makes my blood run cold. I am petrified by the thought of something happening to my child in the blink of an eye like this. While a big part of me wants to believe that if I'm diligent enough, I can protect my daughter from anything...I know it could happen to any of us. I don't blame the parents (at least from what I know, I don't think there's anything wrong with respectfully carried out due diligence to make sure that's the case though). |
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Post by Really Red on Jun 17, 2016 18:06:49 GMT
Outside of this board, I haven't heard of one person I know who thinks the parents were at all at fault. Everyone is horrified by what happened.
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Post by anniefb on Jun 17, 2016 18:10:02 GMT
Due diligence is doing an investigation of any accident and coming to a conclusion. While in the investigation process there is still a chance in case they come across more evidence, etc. While that conclusion may seem like it should have been known the whole time, there still has to be a conclusion made once the investigation is complete. This clears the innocent party and documents it. I guess I just watch too many crime/accident shows though because to me this is standard procedure. This makes sense. I am guessing many times what at first may have seemed like an accident proved to be something else. Sadly yes. |
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Post by mzza111 on Jun 17, 2016 18:11:13 GMT
I will admit to side-eyeing anyone who goes in the water where "no swimming" signs are posted. I've never been to WDW and this is just from what I've read on the other thread.
Why are there "no swimming" signs but people can rent and ride a jetski on that lagoon? That makes absolutely no sense to me. A person could fall off a jetski and essentially be "swimming" in the water. So either you can go in the water or not but you (general "you" and WDW for that matter) can't have it both ways and then wonder why someone lets their kid stick their feet in the water.
If I read the other thread wrong and you can't jetski in that lagoon...then disregard the above post. 
I also am 100% shocked that WDW did not have alligator warning signs. In my opinion that makes them totally liable.
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Post by iluvpink on Jun 17, 2016 18:45:56 GMT
I will admit to side-eyeing anyone who goes in the water where "no swimming" signs are posted. I've never been to WDW and this is just from what I've read on the other thread.
Why are there "no swimming" signs but people can rent and ride a jetski on that lagoon? That makes absolutely no sense to me. A person could fall off a jetski and essentially be "swimming" in the water. So either you can go in the water or not but you (general "you" and WDW for that matter) can't have it both ways and then wonder why someone lets their kid stick their feet in the water.
If I read the other thread wrong and you can't jetski in that lagoon...then disregard the above post.
I also am 100% shocked that WDW did not have alligator warning signs. In my opinion that makes them totally liable.
You can jet ski there (and other water sports). This link from WDW's page shows people jet skiing right in front of that beach. disneyworld.disney.go.com/recreation/personal-watercraft/ |
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Post by bluesafyre on Jun 17, 2016 18:52:50 GMT
Maybe you can't swim there because people jet ski in there and there is the chance you can get hit.
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Post by Prenticekid on Jun 17, 2016 19:03:17 GMT
What? Why would they be charged with anything? I'm sorry but I don't understand this at all. It was an unimaginable accident. Even Nancy Grace talked about being on that same beach when her twins were two and being right at waters edge. She never once thought about a gator. I cannot imagine the pain these parents feel. The incident still needs to be investigated. Even unimaginable accidents may have a reason - parents/guardians could be drunk; young children left alone; etc. |
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Post by stingfan on Jun 17, 2016 20:25:19 GMT
I think it's more to verify that the parents didn't do something criminal - like push the child in and intentionally feed him to an alligator. Think Susan Smith...
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jun 17, 2016 21:02:56 GMT
Haven't they already had the worst imaginable punishment?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 21:12:57 GMT
Haven't they already had the worst imaginable punishment? |To be fair though Annie they would investigate the circumstances of his death here too, The difference would be the media wouldn't splash the news that they were doing so across the front page and the police/coroner would go about their work quietly in the background, gathering the evidence of what happened etc. The police or the media wouldn't " announce" that there would be no charges either. |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Jun 17, 2016 21:17:15 GMT
Haven't they already had the worst imaginable punishment? |To be fair though Annie they would investigate the circumstances of his death here too, The difference would be the media wouldn't splash the news that they were doing so across the front page and the police/coroner would go about their work quietly in the background, gathering the evidence of what happened etc. The police or the media wouldn't " announce" that there would be no charges either. Agreed. |
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Post by *KAS* on Jun 17, 2016 22:18:17 GMT
I have stayed out of this, but I agree. Why would it even be considered. I am so grateful I'm done raising my child, I would hate to have the entire internet/world judging me after a tragic accident. Sheesh. I would assume that the unexpected death of a toddler is always investigated, as a precautionary measure. I actually think that's a good thing, although I'd think/hope these parents wouldn't be charged. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Jun 17, 2016 22:23:43 GMT
No they should not.
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Post by peabay on Jun 17, 2016 22:58:55 GMT
Outside of this board, I haven't heard of one person I know who thinks the parents were at all at fault. Everyone is horrified by what happened. Same. |
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Post by rickmer on Jun 17, 2016 23:35:13 GMT
Why are there "no swimming" signs but people can rent and ride a jetski on that lagoon? That makes absolutely no sense to me. A person could fall off a jetski and essentially be "swimming" in the water. So either you can go in the water or not but you ( general "you" and WDW for that matter) can't have it both ways and then wonder why someone lets their kid stick their feet in the water. i think that people can be (relatively) safe be on jet skis in that water, from a gator standpoint vs brain eating amoebas i guess. i gather gators aren't sharks and don't swim in deep water to attack prey. those parents should not be charged... i am glad they did their investigation thoroughly, as they should. i have not spoken to anyone in real life that judges them either. if you have never looked away from your child for a single second, then i guess perhaps you can judge. |
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Why would they be charged with anything? 
It is part of the process. When this horrible story first broke, MANY were questioning where the parents were and assuming some sort of negligence. The way the news reports the investigation conclusions implies the parents were actively under investigation, but I don't think that was ever the case.
