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Post by jovifan on Jun 17, 2016 19:55:07 GMT
I've read... take a Liver Tonic, such as Livatone Digestive Enzyme Supplement Possibly Vitamin D
But just wanted feedback from the peas, as you cant always trust what you read on the internet. Shocking, I know.
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Post by beachbum on Jun 17, 2016 19:59:34 GMT
Nothing different than anyone else - I just take a multivitamin and some calcium and vitamin D supplements. I don't eat any differently after getting rid of the gall bladder either.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 20:00:49 GMT
Huh, none. Had my gallbladder out a long time ago, and no doctor has ever told me to take special supplements.
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Post by jovifan on Jun 17, 2016 20:05:21 GMT
This is part of the article I got my info from:
People without a gallbladder are more prone to digestive problems and liver problems; they can even form stones within the ducts of the liver. The risk of developing a fatty liver is also greater in people without a gallbladder. Some herbs and nutritional supplements are extremely beneficial if you don’t have a gallbladder
First of all it’s important to realize that you developed a gallbladder problem in the first place because you had an unhealthy liver. If your liver is not healthy, it will make poor quality bile. The bile will be prone to forming sludge and stones. Just whipping the gallbladder out doesn’t solve that problem, and in fact sludge and stones can form within the liver, compromising its function.
Here are some vital tips to follow: •Keep your intake of dairy products and grains to a minimum or avoid them altogether. Dairy products (milk, cheese, ice-cream, yoghurt) worsen all cases of gallbladder disease, liver disease and they are very difficult to digest. Food intolerance is a common cause of gallbladder problems, and there is research that links gluten intolerance with gallstones. A good reason to keep your intake of grains low is to reduce the risk of developing a fatty liver. There is an easy to follow eating plan in my book Fatty Liver: You Can Reverse It. •Take a good quality liver tonic such as Livatone. The herbs St Mary’s thistle, dandelion root and globe artichoke leaves all increase bile production and bile flow. Taurine is an amino acid necessary for bile production. This should help to make you feel more comfortable after a meal, and should reduce the risk of stones forming inside your liver. •Eat some good fats and avoid the bad fats. Your doctor may have recommended you follow a low fat diet after having your gallbladder removed. This is not necessary and in fact it is harmful. Your body desperately needs good fats and I recommend you include moderate quantities of extra virgin olive oil, avocados, coconut milk and oil, nuts and seeds in your diet. •Take a good quality digestive enzyme supplement. The natural bile salts in this product will help you digest fats and fat soluble vitamins more thoroughly. •You may need a vitamin D3 supplement. People with compromised liver or digestive function are often vitamin D deficient. Exposure of your skin to the sun’s UVB rays enables your body to manufacture vitamin D. However, this process occurs in your liver and kidneys. People with a sluggish liver often do not manufacture vitamin D adequately. Therefore it’s a good idea to get a blood test and take a supplement. 5000 IU of vitamin D3 is a safe and effective dose for most people, but it’s best to be guided by your own doctor. •Include some bitter and sour foods in your diet. They should help to improve your digestion and make it easier to tolerate good fats in your diet. Suitable bitter and sour foods include lemons, limes, radicchio lettuce, chicory, endive and dandelion leaves. These leaves are fairly easy to grow at home if you are lucky enough to have your own veggie patch.
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Post by craftykitten on Jun 17, 2016 20:09:40 GMT
I would look for actual medical advice rather than someone who is trying to sell a book. I am deeply suspicious of some of those recommendations.
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Post by scrapngranny on Jun 17, 2016 20:13:00 GMT
My DH had his gallbladder out 4 years ago and nobody told him to take any supplements. He did have pancreatitis last year caused by stones in his bile duct. He had an ERCP to remove the stones, but we always wonder if more will form.
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Post by jovifan on Jun 17, 2016 20:13:23 GMT
I would look for actual medical advice rather than someone who is trying to sell a book. I am deeply suspicious of some of those recommendations. And that's exactly why I asked....ha. Thank you!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 20:17:03 GMT
Yeah, I'd have to visit the source and look around. From what I read in the stuff you quoted, it sounds like they're selling Livatone or books, or maybe both.
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Post by hannahruth on Jun 17, 2016 20:26:50 GMT
My gall bladder was removed 20+ years ago and no one has ever mentioned taking any type of supplement and I have never had any liver issues or anything else in relation to its removal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 20:31:43 GMT
Mines been gone 7/8 years, can't remember exactly. I've never taken anything and I don't feel any different without it. I don't eat anything different either just a good well balanced diet as I did before its removal.
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Post by jovifan on Jun 17, 2016 20:34:11 GMT
OK, thanks for the input. I have continued to have digestive issues since mine was out. Indigestion being the main one. :/
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Post by vspindler on Jun 17, 2016 20:41:30 GMT
I was never told to do anything different.
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Post by coaliesquirrel on Jun 17, 2016 21:09:27 GMT
Mine's been gone a year and no one ever suggested I do anything differently or take anything in particular to make up for the lack of a gall bladder.
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Post by craftykitten on Jun 17, 2016 21:20:30 GMT
OK, thanks for the input. I have continued to have digestive issues since mine was out. Indigestion being the main one. :/ Interesting, because I have gallstones and they keep threatening me with surgery but my main symptom is indigestion. I just try and eat carefully, and I do avoid very fatty/fried foods. Peppermint tea is amazing though, as hot as I can bear it. Really helps.
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Post by jayfab on Jun 17, 2016 21:24:23 GMT
I would look for actual medical advice rather than someone who is trying to sell a book. I am deeply suspicious of some of those recommendations. Yup, exactly what I was thinking. I've had mine out for 7 years now and I take no supplements because if it. But the only thing I avoid is sucralose. (sudden bathroom issues)
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Post by The Birdhouse Lady on Jun 17, 2016 21:27:48 GMT
OK, thanks for the input. I have continued to have digestive issues since mine was out. Indigestion being the main one. :/ I had mine removed 2 years ago. I was glad to be rid of that little devil! However the last 8 months I have had a lot of heartburn and I mean a lot. I have done several courses of Prilosec. My husband wants me to back to the doctor but I haven't yet.
I was not told to take any supplements either.
I did take milk thistle several years ago for liver health. My numbers came back wonky and I was told about it. I haven't taken it in a long time though.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 17, 2016 21:29:05 GMT
I had my gallbladder out almost 15 years ago now, and I don't recall them ever telling me anything special about supplements. And I've never had any deficiencies show up in any of my blood testing...
ETA:
"...you developed a gallbladder problem in the first place because you had an unhealthy liver. If your liver is not healthy, it will make poor quality bile...." hahaha!! Yeah, they're trying to sell their book and supplements.
eta2: there's a number of other things wrong with the information you posted from that article-- according to WebMD, they don't know exactly what causes gallstones. And "The development of nonalcoholic fatty liver disease is intimately associated with and is probably caused by obesity and diabetes" (from medicinenet.com), not from grain intake. Unless they mean that increased grain intake goes along with an increased weight... since I was previously obese (I'm only "overweight" now, yay!!), I've seen a bariatric specialist for months now and she's never said anything about my liver other than losing weight is good for it. (and she knows I've had my gallbladder out)
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jun 17, 2016 22:22:54 GMT
I am surprised no one has asked this, but WHERE did you get the info from that you posted? what site? or book?
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Jun 17, 2016 23:00:53 GMT
The author of the book "Fatty Liver- You Can Reverse It" is the same woman who developed the "Livatone" capsules... surprise, surprise!! (NOT!)
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Post by anniefb on Jun 18, 2016 2:29:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 2:34:09 GMT
Had mine out four years ago and was never told to take anything. I also had some digestive problems even after my gallbladder was taken and the tests showed that I also suffer from GERD so, I take 40mg of Protonix a day for that. I also started taking a probiotic that has really helped my digestive system.
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Post by lovetodigi on Jun 18, 2016 2:36:30 GMT
I had mine out over 5 years ago and don't take any special supplements, nor have I changed what I eat.
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Post by jovifan on Jun 18, 2016 2:43:33 GMT
Thanks for all the info!
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Post by roberta on Jun 18, 2016 9:42:28 GMT
Just want to add that a very few people develop GI problems after the gallbladder is removed. About 3-4% get diarrhea and of those about 1-2% get long term chronic problems.
Always consider the source of medical and nutritional info. There is really a lot of misinformation out there about nutrition. It is wise to find out if the person has training and creditionals for nutritional information. Also most people don't realize that some medical schools don't require a single nutrition course!
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Post by Zee on Jun 18, 2016 12:14:02 GMT
None
I don't have a fatty liver and my liver enzymes are perfect. Had my gallbladder out about 7 years ago and I've had no issues since. Consider the source of that information--she wants to sell you her snake oil liver pills.
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 18, 2016 14:31:36 GMT
My DH had his gallbladder out 4 years ago and nobody told him to take any supplements. He did have pancreatitis last year caused by stones in his bile duct. He had an ERCP to remove the stones, but we always wonder if more will form. Did they place a stent in his bile duct? Did anyone tell you the stent has to replaced regularly? DH had an ERCP in March, 2015. No one told us the stent would need to be replaced. It was not in any of his discharge papers. Fast forward to April this year, he was running a 102 temp and had an infection. The stent was blocked. The gastroenterology surgeon said he had never seen a patient with a stent that old. He said it looked like barnacles on it! They had to put in a larger temporary stent. He'll have that replaced in July. Then we'll have to ask what we have to do to avoid this happening again.
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Post by scrapngranny on Jun 18, 2016 16:28:12 GMT
My DH had his gallbladder out 4 years ago and nobody told him to take any supplements. He did have pancreatitis last year caused by stones in his bile duct. He had an ERCP to remove the stones, but we always wonder if more will form. Did they place a stent in his bile duct? Did anyone tell you the stent has to replaced regularly? DH had an ERCP in March, 2015. No one told us the stent would need to be replaced. It was not in any of his discharge papers. Fast forward to April this year, he was running a 102 temp and had an infection. The stent was blocked. The gastroenterology surgeon said he had never seen a patient with a stent that old. He said it looked like barnacles on it! They had to put in a larger temporary stent. He'll have that replaced in July. Then we'll have to ask what we have to do to avoid this happening again. Ummm, I don't believe they put in a stent. The doctor did say he enlarged the opening into the bile duct, but didn't mention placing anything in there. I have a weird feeling though that this will rear it's ugly head again. I'm not sure why, but something doesn't feel quite right. What at do they consider regularly for the replacement? Your DH only it 11 months. It would be a huge pain to have to have it replaced every 6 months or so.
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Post by mikklynn on Jun 19, 2016 12:30:55 GMT
Did they place a stent in his bile duct? Did anyone tell you the stent has to replaced regularly? DH had an ERCP in March, 2015. No one told us the stent would need to be replaced. It was not in any of his discharge papers. Fast forward to April this year, he was running a 102 temp and had an infection. The stent was blocked. The gastroenterology surgeon said he had never seen a patient with a stent that old. He said it looked like barnacles on it! They had to put in a larger temporary stent. He'll have that replaced in July. Then we'll have to ask what we have to do to avoid this happening again. Ummm, I don't believe they put in a stent. The doctor did say he enlarged the opening into the bile duct, but didn't mention placing anything in there. I have a weird feeling though that this will rear it's ugly head again. I'm not sure why, but something doesn't feel quite right. What at do they consider regularly for the replacement? Your DH only it 11 months. It would be a huge pain to have to have it replaced every 6 months or so. It will be an outpatient procedure, so that will be a lot better than what he just went through. We have to ask the doctor when we go, how often it needs replacing. He said it can be as often as every 4 months, but it varies. I would have your DH call his gastroenterologist and ask if they placed a stent, then you'll know if you have to ask more questions.
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Post by oldcrow on Jun 19, 2016 16:01:45 GMT
I had mine out 46 years ago. Have never taken supplements nor have I had them recommended. The only thing that gives me indigestion is peppers and they always have, oh, and if I drink bubbly stuff like soft drinks too fast.
I do take supplements but not for the gall bladder.
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Post by M in Carolina on Jun 19, 2016 17:38:13 GMT
I wound up having a birth defect that made my bile duct tree too small. Even though I have chronic pancreatitis, my doctors (the specialist at UNC is the same one I saw at Mayo in Rochester) just have me following a lot fat, low fiber, diet and avoiding foods that trigger acute attacks. (no more salad) I did try some prescription liver enzymes but they just made everything worse.
I do have fatty liver, but taking a bunch of "supplements" that can have bad interactions with the drugs I'm already taking. All they'd do is produce more bile so there was more chance that it would back up and cause more problems.
My doctors like to say don't fix it if it's not broken. My diet works already, so why mess with it when all it got me was more acute attacks and hospital visits. My liver enzymes are normal unless I'm having an acute attack which puts me in the hospital.
Nothing's wrong with you. Don't start fing that up because somebody wants to sell you some snake oil herbs. I know lots of people like to act like big pharma is the bad guys, but the reason we needed the FDA and pharmaceuticals in the first place was all these people selling questionable cures hocked by people who want to take your money. These supplements still aren't regulated like pharmaceuticals...
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