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Post by ellewood on Jun 18, 2016 12:05:23 GMT
I have a Silhouette so I never thought much about getting a bigshot or other manual die cutting machine... until I saw a youtube video of someone making her own thickers with craft foam and die cutting! Oh the texture! And also I can't get out of my head how cool this project by TracyXO was where she used a tag die cut on PL cards to make tags for an instax album. So adorable! Anyways, so now I'm thinking about it but it is so confusing. There are big shots, big shot pros, wafer thin dies, expansion packs, embossing folders... What the heck! Can someone give me the lowdown for how to get started with manual die cutting? And maybe a suggestion of a place to turn for alpha dies? Thanks!
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 18, 2016 12:47:11 GMT
I have a ZipeMate die cut machine, which I don't think they even make anymore. If I were to need to buy another machine, I would go with the Big Shot. A great place to look for dies is eBay. Used dies still work perfectly well (it's pretty hard to break them... I never have). I would grab alphas there for much cheaper than retail. I like to get shapes at big box stores, where I can use a 40%/50%/55% off coupon. Darice offers really good quality dies and embossing folders for a low price. Easy to pick up lots of variety without hurting the wallet too much. I like Darice especially for nested die shapes like circles, and for their embossing folders. I found them at AC Moore, but they are often found at Tuesday Morning, too. I'm not sure if you can cut thicker material with wafer dies. I stick with patterned paper, cardstock, foil. The older bigger dies from Sizzix could cut through just about anything. Cloth, leather, foam, etc.
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Post by oaksong on Jun 18, 2016 13:00:08 GMT
It is a dilemma. I have a Silhouette also. I recently acquired a little Spellbinders from Tuesday Morning. It works great for thin dies, but then I discovered that the plate for embossing is not available. Since I had some embossing folders I wanted to use, I ended up getting a Sizzix Texture Maker at Michaels, which was actually cheaper than a plate would have been for the Spellbinders. Between all of the above, I can get the job done, but sometimes I want to cut something thicker or bigger. The machines I have my eye on are the Big Shot Plus, and the newer Vagabond. But really, I can live without it, which means I'll probably end up getting one soon.
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Post by Loydene on Jun 18, 2016 13:06:12 GMT
I have the "big kick" -- aka "big shot" -- I got it for less than $55.00 some time ago. I also have the earlier version of the Sizzix red "press down" machine ... and the QuickKutz hand held presser. Frankly, execept for the foam (which you might actually be able to cut with an electronic machine) I can stack cardstock to make dimensional letters and shapes. And -- you'll need to check, but I think that wafer dies (which most of the alphas are) won't actually cut foam. What I still need/want my manual cutter for is embossing -- even with the Silhouette, it is nice to put texture and pattern on cardstock without always using pattern paper.
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Post by Scrapthology on Jun 18, 2016 14:09:47 GMT
I've had a Big Shot for years and also own a Silhouette, but I would never give up my Big Shot. I've used a few different manual die cutters and the Big Shot is the one I would go for. It's very well built and with a heavy weight die cuts chipboard no problem.
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Post by grammadee on Jun 18, 2016 14:31:05 GMT
If you want to cut foam, you will prob need the thick "steel rule" dies. Here is a LINK. You need to check in the description which are the heavy ones If you want to cut out stamped shapes or particular designs on pp, the wafer thin dies are best. A magnetic platform is a nice extra to help with precision.
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Post by freeatlast on Jun 18, 2016 14:34:20 GMT
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Post by thracian on Jun 18, 2016 14:35:30 GMT
But really, I can live without it, which means I'll probably end up getting one soon. OMG, I so relate to this!
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Post by ellewood on Jun 18, 2016 14:41:27 GMT
You guys have been super helpful! LavenderLayoutLady I will check out ebay! Loydene after googling, it turns out you *can* cut foam with a silhouette! But it makes me worry about dulling the blade (and plus i want something new, haha!) Maybe I will give that shot before I commit. oaksong so many options! Embossing is interesting, how is that different from letterpress? I love the look of letterpress, it's so fancy! Scrapthology thanks for the advice!
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Post by basketdiva on Jun 18, 2016 14:44:30 GMT
I have the original electric Big Shot. I've been using it for over 5 years without any problems (except when I make too thick a shim ). It's the only way I can continue to craft due to my RA.
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Post by janskylar on Jun 18, 2016 15:21:31 GMT
I really like that set of alpha dies! I have a Cuttlebug, which is the smallest manual die cutter I have found. It will accept paper, wafer dies, and embossing folders up to 6" wide, which has been enough for my purposes. I'm saving my surface space for a Silhouette!
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Post by janskylar on Jun 18, 2016 15:24:30 GMT
Oh and ellewood, there are tons of cute tab dies available that aren't weird like that TC tab punch! Haha!
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Post by Linda on Jun 18, 2016 15:51:18 GMT
I have an old QK handle and Epic Six - neither of which, I think, are still available. I also have a Cricut (with SCAL) but sometimes it's easier to just pull out the QK for one or two things than use the Cricut.
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Post by ellewood on Jun 18, 2016 15:52:08 GMT
janskylar what do you use your cuttlebug for? You do cool stuff!
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Post by karensay on Jun 18, 2016 15:52:49 GMT
I am partial to my Big Kick (aka. Big Shot). It is the workhorse of my craftroom. Also, look at Craigslist, since they are a little heavy to ship.
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Post by Frazzled Mom on Jun 18, 2016 15:54:13 GMT
I didn't think I needed a manual die cutter until I found a Cuttlebug and box full of embossing folders at the thrift store for a few bucks! What a fun toy! I also have the OLD Sizzix red behemoth machine and a bunch of those thick dies somewhere in storage, but haven't been motivated to use it in forever. I remember that baby would cut through just about anything.
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Post by janskylar on Jun 18, 2016 16:35:42 GMT
janskylar what do you use your cuttlebug for? You do cool stuff! Aww, thanks I have tons of dies in different shapes mostly. I do have the Blackout Alpha set from SC, and while it is cool, I haven't done much with it. My favorite new thing to do is to make confetti with tissue paper and dies. The wafer dies cut through a ton of layers of tissue paper easily. That's what I used for this layout. Most of my embellishments from this album were made with my Cuttlebug. This includes the 2" square frames, the 2-hole attacher things, the blue lattice background on the "beach trip" page, and all of the little confetti pieces and paper sequins ( best die ever), and everything from the "our day in LA" pages except for the 3 wooden triangles. *I just noticed that the 2" frames on the page with the pieces of seashell were also embossed.
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Post by ellewood on Jun 18, 2016 16:57:07 GMT
janskylar what do you use your cuttlebug for? You do cool stuff! Aww, thanks I have tons of dies in different shapes mostly. I do have the Blackout Alpha set from SC, and while it is cool, I haven't done much with it. My favorite new thing to do is to make confetti with tissue paper and dies. The wafer dies cut through a ton of layers of tissue paper easily. That's what I used for this layout. Most of my embellishments from this album were made with my Cuttlebug. This includes the 2" square frames, the 2-hole attacher things, the blue lattice background on the "beach trip" page, and all of the little confetti pieces and paper sequins ( best die ever), and everything from the "our day in LA" pages except for the 3 wooden triangles. *I just noticed that the 2" frames on the page with the pieces of seashell were also embossed. Cool, thanks! I thought those things were chipboard pieces when I saw them, but now I think that the dies curl the papers under so they look thicker than just paper, especially the frames. Does that make any sense? Haha, this is all very mysterious and magical to me! Where do you get your dies, besides SC?
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Post by gale w on Jun 18, 2016 17:17:41 GMT
I have two different big shot models and love them. I also have a scan n cut and silhouette sd so I have a lot of options.
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Post by ellewood on Jun 18, 2016 17:21:37 GMT
I have two different big shot models and love them. I also have a scan n cut and silhouette sd so I have a lot of options. Do the two different big shots do different things?
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Post by janskylar on Jun 18, 2016 17:33:22 GMT
Cool, thanks! I thought those things were chipboard pieces when I saw them, but now I think that the dies curl the papers under so they look thicker than just paper, especially the frames. Does that make any sense? Haha, this is all very mysterious and magical to me! Where do you get your dies, besides SC? Yes, wafer dies definitely push down the edges, lending a little bit of dimension to the paper. Some even have built in ridges which, with the right equiptment (there's a mat for the Cuttlebug) emboss a design while you're cutting. I haven't figured out how to do this correctly though. I buy AC dies from my local scrapbook store sometimes, and Joann's & Michael's have some that I have purchased on sale (or clearance or with a coupon), and online stores like Simon Says Stamp and Scrapbook.com. I think I got the sequin die from SSS. Sometimes Tuesday Morning has random sets for super cheap. I steer clear from the frilly and overly elaborate ones that seem to make up the majority of what my local stores sell. The dies aren't super cheap, but I justify it by telling myself they are more affordable than craft punches, and you get more variety. For me, it has to be a design that I could see myself using over and over. Lawn Fawn makes some cute sets (though some of the ones on that page are designed to be used with their stamp sets). I have purchased a few Waffle Flower dies, too. Simon Says Stamp sells both brands.
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Post by gale w on Jun 18, 2016 17:36:14 GMT
I have two different big shot models and love them. I also have a scan n cut and silhouette sd so I have a lot of options. Do the two different big shots do different things? No. One is bigger so it can do bigger things. I bought it for quilting dies (i think they can be up to 12" wide).
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Post by gale w on Jun 18, 2016 17:37:46 GMT
Cool, thanks! I thought those things were chipboard pieces when I saw them, but now I think that the dies curl the papers under so they look thicker than just paper, especially the frames. Does that make any sense? Haha, this is all very mysterious and magical to me! Where do you get your dies, besides SC? Yes, wafer dies definitely push down the edges, lending a little bit of dimension to the paper. Some even have built in ridges which, with the right equiptment (there's a mat for the Cuttlebug) emboss a design while you're cutting. I haven't figured out how to do this correctly though. I buy AC dies from my local scrapbook store sometimes, and Joann's & Michael's have some that I have purchased on sale (or clearance or with a coupon), and online stores like Simon Says Stamp and Scrapbook.com. I think I got the sequin die from SSS. Sometimes Tuesday Morning has random sets for super cheap. I steer clear from the frilly and overly elaborate ones that seem to make up the majority of what my local stores sell. The dies aren't super cheap, but I justify it by telling myself they are more affordable than craft punches, and you get more variety. For me, it has to be a design that I could see myself using over and over. Lawn Fawn makes some cute sets (though some of the ones on that page are designed to be used with their stamp sets). I have purchased a few Waffle Flower dies, too. Simon Says Stamp sells both brands. This is why I always buy stitched dies rather than using an electronic machine for them. They look better to me with the little bit of dimension. Gina Marie stitched dies are the most economical. I buy them from www.katscrappiness.com but there is another site that sells them (google gina marie dies).
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Post by janskylar on Jun 18, 2016 17:45:00 GMT
This is why I always buy stitched dies rather than using an electronic machine for them. They look better to me with the little bit of dimension. Gina Marie stitched dies are the most economical. I buy them from www.katscrappiness.com but there is another site that sells them (google gina marie dies). Ooh, thanks for the link! Those cross stitched dies are awesome, and you're right, great price!
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Post by paperpilekitten on Jun 18, 2016 18:16:59 GMT
I have a Big Shot that I love love love, and I'm cutting thickers from foam sheets. I'm using thin alpha dies from Sizzix and they cut foam sheets, no problem.
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Post by anniefb on Jun 18, 2016 18:41:06 GMT
You guys have been super helpful! LavenderLayoutLady I will check out ebay! Loydene after googling, it turns out you *can* cut foam with a silhouette! But it makes me worry about dulling the blade (and plus i want something new, haha!) Maybe I will give that shot before I commit. oaksong so many options! Embossing is interesting, how is that different from letterpress? I love the look of letterpress, it's so fancy! Scrapthology thanks for the advice! I bought the deep cut blade so I can try cutting fun foam with my Silhouette. Haven't done it, but it's on my list. If you're worried about the blade, you could always have one dedicated to foam and other non paper materials? In terms of manual die cutting, I have a Big Shot and recommend it as a good sturdy machine. And you can probably the find the store equivalent (Big Kick) with a coupon. With my Big Shot, I can cut fun foam just using wafer thin dies. Here's an example of a recent card where I cut the sentiment from paper and fun foam and stuck them together for some dimension. The die is a Paper Smooches one.
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Post by anniefb on Jun 18, 2016 18:43:27 GMT
ellewood have a look at Simon Says Stamp exclusive dies, Paper Smooches and Papertrey Ink. Honestly their designs are waaaaay superior to what SC produces.
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Post by disneyer on Jun 18, 2016 21:29:27 GMT
I'd try to buy as inexpensively as possible if I was just getting into manual die cutting. So many people are selling on ebay at a huge loss which means your gain. Wafer thin dies don't usually break or wear out! I love my skinni mini alpha's from Quickutz. I'd suggest don't go to crazy buying until you know how often you will use them. I love mine but don't often pull them out and I paid full price!
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Post by Ryann on Jun 18, 2016 21:55:45 GMT
I have a Cuttlebug and a Silhouette and think both are needed! It's not convenient for me to take my Sil to a crop, but CB is easily portable. I use my CB for small tasks, like cutting out one circle or a heart, etc. I use my Sil for bigger projects, like making banners that have multiple parts and pieces.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jun 19, 2016 2:25:59 GMT
I'm another fan of the Big Shot and I have computerized cutters too. I use them for different things, and find that I've been using my Big Shot a lot more than I ever thought I would when I bought it. ellewood I've seen some really thin fun foam in multicolor packs at the Dollar Tree and I have almost bought it a couple times, thinking it would probably be thin enough to cut with the wafer thin dies. Maybe you could use that to make your faux Thickers? I would guess it was about 1/16" thick or so.
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