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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 4:53:31 GMT
We're building our home in the country, they're framing right now. Almost every week we find out people have been nosy. We've had people we know, but don't ever get together with literally drive up the long driveway to see what we're doing. And they'll even admit to snooping. And our place is out in the country far enough and isolated enough that people don't just happen to be driving past.
My DH closed the driveway with leftover barbed wire to hopefully deter people, most visits seem to happen over the weekend. There were quite a few tire tracks with people driving up the driveway but reversing once they got to the barbed wire.
We're building on a small hill with a walkout basement, the walkout area is not visible from the road. He's tempted to park our vehicle down there this coming Sunday just to see how many "friends" come to snoop.
I don't understand why people can be so nosy about people they don't really even care about. Heck my best friends have both built and I did one drive by and would never dream to walk in without them.
FTR, it's just your average home, in fact maybe even a little on the small side compared to some of the homes being built.
Anyone have stories to share about catching snoopers at your home build?
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 21, 2016 4:57:47 GMT
I don't have any stories as our ground breaking isn't until the end of July, but I have to say that as long as they aren't getting into anything or doing damage, I don't really care if they come to look.
We have had a lot of building in this area. Lots of people seem to go and see the progress on some of the new builds. I know we had to sign something that said we wouldn't go in the house while it was being built without a representative from the builders. I assume that is a liablity thing for insurance. I figure if it was someone else, they'd be busted for tresspassing and thus the company insurance wouldn't have to pay, but if it was the buyer that may get murky.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 5:04:24 GMT
I don't have any stories as our ground breaking isn't until the end of July, but I have to say that as long as they aren't getting into anything or doing damage, I don't really care if they come to look. We have had a lot of building in this area. Lots of people seem to go and see the progress on some of the new builds. I know we had to sign something that said we wouldn't go in the house while it was being built without a representative from the builders. I assume that is a liablity thing for insurance. I figure if it was someone else, they'd be busted for tresspassing and thus the company insurance wouldn't have to pay, but if it was the buyer that may get murky. They don't want you in the house because they don't want you to see the mistakes, shortcuts and bad fix-it jobs. My husband's brother was threatened with the the contractor quitting and a lawsuit because he found tons of mistakes from bad wiring to uneven floor joists. And to answer your question: My husband is a looky Lou.
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Post by tracylynn on Jun 21, 2016 5:04:44 GMT
As long as they are damaging anything, I'm not sure exactly what the problem is if it's still an open build.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 21, 2016 5:06:35 GMT
They don't want you in the house because they don't want you to see the mistakes, shortcuts and bad fix-it jobs. My husband's brother was threatened with the the contractor quitting and a lawsuit because he found tons of mistakes from bad wiring to uneven floor joists. I'm not educated enough to be able to notice those things.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 5:26:23 GMT
As long as they are damaging anything, I'm not sure exactly what the problem is if it's still an open build. I guess I'm an odd duck then because it's our property and unless you're paying the bills or receiving the checks, you don't belong there without consent. But I'm fiercely private so maybe that's why I feel that way. If it was a build in a populated area I could excuse it. But these are people driving into the country to snoop. I look forward to reaching lock up stage.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 21, 2016 5:32:25 GMT
I guess I'm an odd duck then because it's our property and unless you're paying the bills or receiving the checks, you don't belong there without consent. I agree with you in theory. For me, I don't care until the windows and such show up. I do think it is weird to drive out to the country to look at someone else's build.
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Post by gar on Jun 21, 2016 7:48:43 GMT
People are nosy...or interested and curious depending on your pov....maybe they didn't have anything to do on Sunday and fancied a drive. Of course it's your property but while it's so open and unfinished it probably seems more fair game. Self builds are interesting, a lot of people never get the chance or take the plunge to actually do it but would love to. Are you never nosy/interested in things to do with people you don't care about? I am
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Post by Why on Jun 21, 2016 8:59:47 GMT
Wouldn't bother me at all. I might even be a bit flattered that someone was interested.
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Post by georgiee on Jun 21, 2016 9:45:50 GMT
It would definitely bother me. None of their business. People also go to new builds, especially isolated ones, to steal and just do damage. I would keep up the barbed wire.
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Post by raindancer on Jun 21, 2016 11:32:01 GMT
I don't have any stories as our ground breaking isn't until the end of July, but I have to say that as long as they aren't getting into anything or doing damage, I don't really care if they come to look. We have had a lot of building in this area. Lots of people seem to go and see the progress on some of the new builds. I know we had to sign something that said we wouldn't go in the house while it was being built without a representative from the builders. I assume that is a liablity thing for insurance. I figure if it was someone else, they'd be busted for tresspassing and thus the company insurance wouldn't have to pay, but if it was the buyer that may get murky. Oh that's super sketchy. Make sure that you hire an inspector before you close to catch stuff and make sure you make them aware that they wouldn't let you in without them there. When you go make notes of things you see, take pictures, note where the pic was taken, and ask a million questions. Too bad if they get annoyed. You want to keep an eye on them. I have built before, helped a friend through a build and am building now all with 3 different companies and nevery heard of this only with them deal.
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Post by grinningcat on Jun 21, 2016 11:37:16 GMT
I have people in my family who do this bullshit... it's so embarrassing. We'll be on a walk and go by a new build. They will want to go in and check out, I point blank refuse. I think it's ridiculous and crosses the line. I don't really understand the appeal of looking at a half built house... or trespassing on someone else's property.
If I know the home owners and they actually invite me to come look with them, that's very different. But I am so tired of the Gladys Kravitz types of the world who think that other people's business and property is their right to know about.
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Post by mellowyellow on Jun 21, 2016 12:07:42 GMT
As long as they are damaging anything, I'm not sure exactly what the problem is if it's still an open build. I think there's a big difference because this not a house in a subdivision where you can just drive by. This house is in the country on some land down a long drive way. That would bother me.
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Post by blue tulip on Jun 21, 2016 12:09:29 GMT
well, I wouldn't make a special trip out in the country to see a friend's house without their permission, but we have ridden thru subdivisions and gone thru builds that weren't finished. we were shopping for builders, and wanted to see the quality of work before it was covered up with drywall. we toured one that the builder recommended, at a time he set, but we also wanted to see one when they didn't know we were coming, KWIM? this was always in the early evening after all workers had gone home and the house was empty.
we didn't start out just going in them without permission, but after we had inquired about 2 half-built houses from different builders and were told "just go in whenever", we thought it wasn't a big deal.
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 21, 2016 12:10:28 GMT
I work on a spinal cord injury unit. One of the guys was out walking with his wife and they enjoyed going into homes under construction and seeing what people were doing with their homes. Sadly, he fell from a set of stairs and was immediately quadriplegic.
After that,if I was building I would try to keep people out and post signs, but especially block access to the stairs by whatever means.
When I was young and my dad was having our home built, some neighbor kids came and were playing on the stacks of lumber. One kid got a nail in his foot and his parents sued my dad.
I like seeing people's houses but if there are signs and barricades I hope at least some people would adhere.
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Post by Miss Ang on Jun 21, 2016 12:14:44 GMT
Driving by or looking from the driveway or road at new construction is not at all weird, IMO. I find the erection of a new home/building interesting and I enjoy watching the process.
However, parking and walking onto the property and entering a structure that is not yours is weird and super inappropriate.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 12:27:19 GMT
If you are all the super private how do these people know you are building and where it is? Seems you may not be as private as you think. Or the people stopping by to look see it from the road and are curious. I bet you'd find the looky lous live in the area and do drive by on a regular basis.
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Post by Linda on Jun 21, 2016 12:32:26 GMT
in Florida, it can be a felony to trespass on a construction site
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Post by Merge on Jun 21, 2016 12:54:57 GMT
When we were building our house in a new development, apparently another family went through when it was nearing completion and then went back and told the sales office that it was exactly the house they wanted, and they would pay over whatever our sale price had been. Um, OK, folks. The builder had a contract with us and wasn't going to break it.
But I always felt weird that they had gone looking through our house. It was almost complete at that point except for the flooring. The next day they put locks on the doors.
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Jun 21, 2016 13:02:41 GMT
I work on a spinal cord injury unit. One of the guys was out walking with his wife and they enjoyed going into homes under construction and seeing what people were doing with their homes. Sadly, he fell from a set of stairs and was immediately quadriplegic. After that,if I was building I would try to keep people out and post signs, but especially block access to the stairs by whatever means. When I was young and my dad was having our home built, some neighbor kids came and were playing on the stacks of lumber. One kid got a nail in his foot and his parents sued my dad. I like seeing people's houses but if there are signs and barricades I hope at least some people would adhere. This is why they don't want you there without a representative from the company. Has nothing to do with hiding anything. Also, building isn't a neat and pretty process. Things will be ugly. My husband has homeowners come in and nit pick this and that. He's had to kick them out because they weren't allowing him to do his job. Some things they were pointing out weren't complete yet. Can there be some mistakes? Yes. But that isn't the case most times. Save
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 13:04:26 GMT
I understand how you feel, especially since you are a very private person and your home is being built remotely.
From my perspective I like to see how new homes are being designed on the inside - the layout, the ceiling height, size of rooms, etc. It's not that I am nosy about your specific situation but I just like to look at new home builds. I will clarify this by saying I would only be a "looky-lou" in a master planned type neighborhood. I would not make a trip to the country to see a specific person's house unless I was invited.
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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 21, 2016 13:10:43 GMT
I dont think you're an odd duck. It's one thing to walk through construction in a subdivision with open houses. It's another to trespass on obviously private property to look around. Hehe IMy elementary school years were spent in one of the early houses in our development. I have these rules drilled into me.
Builder statements like that are not uncommon, nor are they sketchy. A contractor needs to protect themselves from liability as much as anyone. Untrained, unsupervised visitors to a site are a hazard. They run the risk of damaging the work, not just getting injured.
How would you feel if some kid tugged a wire on your new build loosening it? Or some curious DIY guy pulled back a panel to see how the pros do it? Do you want to pay your contractor to fix it? What if it was already inspected and considered finished so it got covered up?
And that's in addition to falling off an unfinished stair, knocking a board on their head or stepping on a nail in sandals.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 13:12:17 GMT
I was taught to respect other people's property, so I would not walk through someone else's build without permission. I don't see how anyone can justify doing so. Would you walk through someone's house in your neighborhood without permission simply because you wanted to see the layout? So why would it be okay to do so because it's not finished? Being nosy isn't an excuse. If it's not yours, stay out.
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Post by raindancer on Jun 21, 2016 13:21:23 GMT
I think if you are building privately it's out of line for someone to go on your property and go in your house.
If you are building with a builder, they own the home until you sign the contract and close. That makes it up to them if people go in and out of it and look. I have recently been in to measure a few things in a floor plan like ours, cabinets were in, etc. and I asked and was told to go in any time as long as it's not locked up it is ok.
So with ours I expect people to be in it without my permission because I don't actually own it yet. It's not my house. Just like if I buy a house from someone else and am under contract with them to purchase, until we close it's still their home and they can have whoever they want in and out.
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Post by raindancer on Jun 21, 2016 13:22:26 GMT
I was taught to respect other people's property, so I would not walk through someone else's build without permission. I don't see how anyone can justify doing so. Would you walk through someone's house in your neighborhood without permission simply because you wanted to see the layout? So why would it be okay to do so because it's not finished? Being nosy isn't an excuse. If it's not yours, stay out. But it's not yours either. You don't own a home until you close on it and have keys in hand. Unless it's a private build like the OP. That's different.
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Post by scrappert on Jun 21, 2016 13:52:16 GMT
People are nosey when your moving into a new to you home, too! When we bought our house, we wanted to do some work before we moved in. We had all the walls and ceilings plastered in knockdown. When they did this, they covered all the windows inside with plastic. One next door neighbor was asking what we were doing and we told him and he said "Oh, that's why I couldn't see in." Nice.
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Post by basketdiva on Jun 21, 2016 13:56:11 GMT
If you are all the super private how do these people know you are building and where it is? Seems you may not be as private as you think.
I was thinking the same thing. You must have told some people.
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Post by gloryjoy on Jun 21, 2016 14:01:19 GMT
When we built our house in our subdivision we wen thru all the open builds, it was interesting. But that was in a subdivison while we were building. And our previous house was half a block away.
I wouldn't be getting in the car and driving somewhere to go thru someone's open build.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 14:24:09 GMT
People are nosy...or interested and curious depending on your pov....maybe they didn't have anything to do on Sunday and fancied a drive. Of course it's your property but while it's so open and unfinished it probably seems more fair game. Self builds are interesting, a lot of people never get the chance or take the plunge to actually do it but would love to. Are you never nosy/interested in things to do with people you don't care about? I am You're right, I know for a lot of people self builds are interesting. And with that comes a lot of opinions. It's actually kind of amusing, when someone buys a home, no one comes in and critiques the home. No one looks at your home and says stuff like "why would you have such a small garage" or "why didn't you buy a bigger home" but these are questions that we've been asked. And FTR, our home is a normal size for the area and our garage is big but I guess someone looked at just the footing when everything looks small. And I can honestly say I don't really care what people do or the decisions they make. I'm happy for someone if I hear something but that's as far as my curiosity is peaked.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 14:32:14 GMT
If you are all the super private how do these people know you are building and where it is? Seems you may not be as private as you think. Or the people stopping by to look see it from the road and are curious. I bet you'd find the looky lous live in the area and do drive by on a regular basis. I'm private, not secretive. Friends and church family knew we were selling our home and preparing to build a country home. We only ever said anything to our family and our friends. I don't see how you could keep your dwelling locations secret. And we know our surrounding neighbours will be looky lous, but the nosy ones live in town.
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