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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 14:33:05 GMT
If you are all the super private how do these people know you are building and where it is? Seems you may not be as private as you think. Or the people stopping by to look see it from the road and are curious. I bet you'd find the looky lous live in the area and do drive by on a regular basis. I'm private, not secretive. Friends and church family knew we were selling our home and preparing to build a country home. We only ever said anything to our family and our friends. I don't see how you could keep your dwelling locations secret. And we know our surrounding neighbours will be looky lous, but the nosy ones live in town.
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Post by gar on Jun 21, 2016 14:35:17 GMT
People are nosy...or interested and curious depending on your pov....maybe they didn't have anything to do on Sunday and fancied a drive. Of course it's your property but while it's so open and unfinished it probably seems more fair game. Self builds are interesting, a lot of people never get the chance or take the plunge to actually do it but would love to. Are you never nosy/interested in things to do with people you don't care about? I am You're right, I know for a lot of people self builds are interesting. And with that comes a lot of opinions. It's actually kind of amusing, when someone buys a home, no one comes in and critiques the home. No one looks at your home and says stuff like "why would you have such a small garage" or "why didn't you buy a bigger home" but these are questions that we've been asked. And FTR, our home is a normal size for the area and our garage is big but I guess someone looked at just the footing when everything looks small. And I can honestly say I don't really care what people do or the decisions they make. I'm happy for someone if I hear something but that's as far as my curiosity is peaked. Sure they do. But I imagine that when people assume you had free rein to do whatever you choose, in your shoes they would have built bigger or differently. Of course, it's none of their business why you've built as you have but maybe they're just thinking out loud about what they would have done. And as far as you not being nosy or curious, well we're all different aren't we
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 14:38:15 GMT
If you are all the super private how do these people know you are building and where it is? Seems you may not be as private as you think.I was thinking the same thing. You must have told some people. Private, not secretive. I don't care if someone knows where we'll live, I do care if you decide to walk through my house without me in it. FWIW, our neighbours to the north are church people, we couldn't even keep it a secret if we tried. But like I said, I'm not secretive, I believe that I'm entitled to privacy though.
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Post by freebird on Jun 21, 2016 14:43:48 GMT
You know, I can see this from both ways. I don't like the idea of people up the road driving up and snooping around, but on the other hand if my BFF was building a house I'm sure I'd stop by to tell them how nice it looked and great job and that I was proud of them. I wouldn't go on the build site though, I'd just look around.
I think it's very rude to snoop around at open houses when you're not house shopping - especially your neighbors. It's being a gladys kravitz AND it's wasting a realtor's time who is trying to work.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 14:44:11 GMT
I think if you are building privately it's out of line for someone to go on your property and go in your house. If you are building with a builder, they own the home until you sign the contract and close. That makes it up to them if people go in and out of it and look. I have recently been in to measure a few things in a floor plan like ours, cabinets were in, etc. and I asked and was told to go in any time as long as it's not locked up it is ok. So with ours I expect people to be in it without my permission because I don't actually own it yet. It's not my house. Just like if I buy a house from someone else and am under contract with them to purchase, until we close it's still their home and they can have whoever they want in and out. In our case, my DH is acting as general contractor and it's being privately financed until completion. our last home was built by a builder and he had no issue with us coming anytime. But relatives of mine built last year and their builder locked them out and wouldn't let them in without him there.
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Post by seaexplore on Jun 21, 2016 14:54:43 GMT
I LOVE walking in new constructions. My DH and I design and build custom homes and I'm always looking for ideas for a "new house for me". If I'm out walking and I see a new build, I will go up to it. If the owners are there, even better! I'll ask to come in. If there is no one there, I will walk in carefully. Once windows and doors are up, I look from the street or driveway or porch.
We have built the last 3 houses we've lived in ourselves (we're talking EVERYTHING ground up ourselves) and I would often find people had been over. Different tire tracks, foot prints of dirt on the slab. Doesn't bother me at all. In the current house, we had a golden retriever that came over daily and napped in the corner. Come to find out, she lived across the street with loud kids and just wanted a quiet (aside from nail guns and air compressors- LOL) place to snooze. She was old and we always worried we'd come over and find her dead. We didn't tho.
So, yes, I would go into a new construction! I love them!
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Post by aljack on Jun 21, 2016 14:57:04 GMT
When I read this, my first thought was potential thieves. Sadly, this occurs in our area frequently. Thieves will find new isolated home sites and steal whatever supplies they can. Most contractors will put building materials and equipment away but on large home sites they may be restricted in securing everything. Pipes, lumber, wiring coils, etc. have been stolen. I think it's good your husband blocked it off because if someone is injured, liability is a concern.
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Post by Flowergirl on Jun 21, 2016 16:05:17 GMT
I don't have any stories as our ground breaking isn't until the end of July, but I have to say that as long as they aren't getting into anything or doing damage, I don't really care if they come to look. We have had a lot of building in this area. Lots of people seem to go and see the progress on some of the new builds. I know we had to sign something that said we wouldn't go in the house while it was being built without a representative from the builders. I assume that is a liablity thing for insurance. I figure if it was someone else, they'd be busted for tresspassing and thus the company insurance wouldn't have to pay, but if it was the buyer that may get murky. Oh that's super sketchy. Make sure that you hire an inspector before you close to catch stuff and make sure you make them aware that they wouldn't let you in without them there. When you go make notes of things you see, take pictures, note where the pic was taken, and ask a million questions. Too bad if they get annoyed. You want to keep an eye on them. I have built before, helped a friend through a build and am building now all with 3 different companies and nevery heard of this only with them deal. I advise anyone I know building a new home to hire a structural inspector. He inspected at the framing stage, after electrical and plumbing were in and at final walk through where he did a complete inspection and helpEd us formulate our punch list. These were all scheduled with our builder rep so they could be done when it wouldn't interrupt their work flow. The head supervisor from our builder was actually rude to the inspector on the final walkthrough, though the inspector actually said they did a sound and thorough job building our home. This builder rep was just an ass in general. As for the OP...people are curious/nosy/looking for ideas/bored/in the area etc.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 21, 2016 16:47:23 GMT
I don't have any stories as our ground breaking isn't until the end of July, but I have to say that as long as they aren't getting into anything or doing damage, I don't really care if they come to look. We have had a lot of building in this area. Lots of people seem to go and see the progress on some of the new builds. I know we had to sign something that said we wouldn't go in the house while it was being built without a representative from the builders. I assume that is a liablity thing for insurance. I figure if it was someone else, they'd be busted for tresspassing and thus the company insurance wouldn't have to pay, but if it was the buyer that may get murky. Oh that's super sketchy. Make sure that you hire an inspector before you close to catch stuff and make sure you make them aware that they wouldn't let you in without them there. When you go make notes of things you see, take pictures, note where the pic was taken, and ask a million questions. Too bad if they get annoyed. You want to keep an eye on them. I have built before, helped a friend through a build and am building now all with 3 different companies and nevery heard of this only with them deal. I don't think it is sketchy. We can call and have someone meet us to look at any time. They know we live 4 doors downfrom where we are building and the guy even said that he knew they wouldn't be keeping us out, but we had to sign it anyway. They have told us to walk through other new builds to get a feel for them as long as the workers aren't there. They schedule 4 different walk through as different things are being completed and of course the walk through with the fix it list. Then we get 1 month, 6 month, and 1 year out checks on the home and they will fix anything that comes up on their dime. We've had 3 friends go with this builder and while I think they definitely screw you a little on the price, everybody seems pretty happy. The issues that did come up, we addressed before building so they won't be issues for us. Dh has a couple of friends that went with other builders and they have had issues with random things. We addressed those in our contract too, just in case. It's been helpful knowing a handful of people who have recently built.
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Post by Kerri W on Jun 21, 2016 16:58:24 GMT
It's actually kind of amusing, when someone buys a home, no one comes in and critiques the home. No one looks at your home and says stuff like "why would you have such a small garage" or "why didn't you buy a bigger home" but these are questions that we've been asked. And FTR, our home is a normal size for the area and our garage is big but I guess someone looked at just the footing when everything looks small. Perhaps not critique (though I've heard that too) but people are certainly interested when a friend/family purchases a new home as opposed to building. People have house warming parties to show people their new home. I can't tell you how many times friends have said "let me show you around" the first time I visited their new house. A new home, bought or built, is a big deal and most people want to share that with others. You've said you're very private so I'm guessing you realize this is something that is outside of your comfort zone but it is not outside the norm of human behavior to be interested in something big happening with your friends/family member. It also sounds like you're hurt by the critiquing going on more than anything-that would frustrate me as well. It's your house why the heck do they care what you do or don't do with it?!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2016 17:04:39 GMT
It's actually kind of amusing, when someone buys a home, no one comes in and critiques the home. No one looks at your home and says stuff like "why would you have such a small garage" or "why didn't you buy a bigger home" but these are questions that we've been asked. And FTR, our home is a normal size for the area and our garage is big but I guess someone looked at just the footing when everything looks small. Perhaps not critique (though I've heard that too) but people are certainly interested when a friend/family purchases a new home as opposed to building. People have house warming parties to show people their new home. I can't tell you how many times friends have said "let me show you around" the first time I visited their new house. A new home, bought or built, is a big deal and most people want to share that with others. You've said you're very private so I'm guessing you realize this is something that is outside of your comfort zone but it is not outside the norm of human behavior to be interested in something big happening with your friends/family member. It also sounds like you're hurt by the critiquing going on more than anything-that would frustrate me as well. It's your house why the heck do they care what you do or don't do with it?! You're right. I put my heart and soul into designing this house with the architect and it's frustrating when people take your house and change it into what their dream would be. I'm probably too attached to it, it's our dream to be able to do this and as silly as it sounds, it feels like people are taking your dream away by pointing out what they would change. Go get your own dream, lol.
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Post by peasapie on Jun 21, 2016 17:09:24 GMT
I love looking at houses being built, but I get what you mean in your OP. It's a little like having an open house and seeing your neighbors coming through for a look. We've had that happen. There is nothing technically against it, but it can feel like an invasion of privacy if you wouldn't otherwise invite them in and they aren't looking to buy your house. (Oh, that's where they sleep at night... Let me see how their pantry compares to mine...)
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Post by anonrefugee on Jun 21, 2016 22:56:30 GMT
I've been thinking about this in odd moments today. Not sure it's worth a spin off, so forgive me if I hijack.
I wouldn't allow just anyone to walk through my office unannounced. Especially if they opened cabinets, looked in workstations, closets, etc. Not even clients are given free rein, and they pay our bills too. And my clients don't run the risk of a 2x4 dropping on their head.
I don't know anyone who would allow it. I can't imagine any manufacturing plant would be open to that either.
So why are contractors viewed negatively for not wanting the public tromping through their build?
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Post by mom on Jun 21, 2016 23:11:52 GMT
Perhaps its the contractor coming to check things out?
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Post by mallie on Jun 22, 2016 0:33:10 GMT
We walk through houses under construction all the time because we simply love looking at house design and imagining what we would do with the space. We don't go out looking for them, to be clear -- but if we are walking around and see one, we'll take a peek.
We have run into workmen and builders from time to time and each time I ask if it's okay. Every single time, they have said they are happy to have people come through the house because it's free advertising for them. One builder said, "If we wanted people to stay out, we'd put up No Trespassing and Keep Out signs. We don't because we want you to walk through."
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Post by Zee on Jun 22, 2016 1:26:44 GMT
Unless you're including a torture dungeon, a speakeasy, and a safe room, who cares?
I went and looked at the new house across the street, though I didn't actually go inside, and most of my neighbors told me they were in my house while it was being built. Apparently they know the layout of my home. I couldn't care less.
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Post by librarylady on Jun 22, 2016 2:00:30 GMT
I have gone to new developments to look at the new homes. I always tell any sales person that I am just looking for ideas, not purchase, as I don't want to waste someone's productive time.
The craziest building story I know: We moved into the established neighborhood and about 3 years later had an in ground pool built. Both of us were working and the men digging the hole etc. were working when we were not at home. I was in outside sales at the time and would stop by during the day to see how things were going. I noticed an older man sitting in a lawn chair on our patio watching what was going on. I thought, "Some worker has dad along today.".....Days pass and the elderly man was seen again if I stopped by. One day a worker said something to my husband about "Your father checking our work."... We were puzzled. Now I don't remember exactly how we found out--but about 5 houses down the street, the wife's elderly father had recently come to stay for 3-4 months. He was bored and curious, so he walked down every day and watched the construction process. And, in an odd coincidence, the elderly father knew my husband's mother.
I didn't feel offended, I was just amused at what had happened.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jun 22, 2016 2:44:21 GMT
A few years ago everyone in my condo complex got together and chose to replace our windows. By doing them as a group within the space of two days the company gave us a generous discount. I was the first one to have my windows done and as soon as the first window came out I had half the people that live here walking up and sticking their head in the open spot in the wall. They were blatantly checking out the interior of my place, going so far as to comment on my choice of paint color in my kitchen. It was mind boggling.
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Post by ginacivey on Jun 22, 2016 3:13:14 GMT
we live out in the country..in the midwest...and it seems like this is just how people are around here
they don't mean anything by it...just curiousity
you'd probably get more privacy in the middle of a bustling city than in my neck of the woods!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 4:27:37 GMT
Perhaps its the contractor coming to check things out? We are the contractor, and we know the framer. It wasn't the framer and it wasn't us. We know at least two of the people that came and they came only to snoop.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 4:37:29 GMT
Unless you're including a torture dungeon, a speakeasy, and a safe room, who cares? I went and looked at the new house across the street, though I didn't actually go inside, and most of my neighbors told me they were in my house while it was being built. Apparently they know the layout of my home. I couldn't care less. I care. And it's our house so I have a right to care. This won't make sense to a lot of you but I can sooner handle a bunch of strangers walking through to look than I can people we know. It feels off to have someone we know, but don't socialize with, go through our home.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 5:31:10 GMT
There's no shame in our game where we live because as long as the house is unlocked (usually before the final flooring and appliances are installed), it's fair game for people to go through - and go through they do. Heck, when we were building, we met one of our neighbors while we were going through their house and they came to check it out. As it turns out, they had just been going through ours before they stopped in at theirs. However, this is a subdivision and the house isn't "yours" until it has closed, so I am sure I would feel differently about a house that is being subcontracted by the owner, etc. and they already have a construction loan, etc. (Not that I would know their finances, but I would just assume that it's different that a development like the one we live in)
ETA: In fact, while we were looking at different floor plans, our salesperson gave us addresses of various houses in different stages of construction and told us to go through them so I assume they did that with other people too. I know a TON of people went through our house during construction because it was a new floorplan that they didn't have a model home for.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 22, 2016 5:36:10 GMT
There's no shame in our game where we live because as long as the house is unlocked (usually before the final flooring and appliances are installed), it's fair game for people to go through - and go through they do. Heck, when we were building, we met one of our neighbors while we were going through their house and they came to check it out. As it turns out, they had just been going through ours before they stopped in at theirs. However, this is a subdivision and the house isn't "yours" until it has closed, so I am sure I would feel differently about a house that is being subcontracted by the owner, etc. and they already have a construction loan, etc. (Not that I would know their finances, but I would just assume that it's different that a development like the one we live in) ETA: In fact, while we were looking at different floor plans, our salesperson gave us addresses of various houses in different stages of construction and told us to go through them so I assume they did that with other people too. I know a TON of people went through our house during construction because it was a new floorplan that they didn't have a model home for. ours did too. I've never gone in once the door is onr, locked or unlocked. I didn't know people did that. Hmmm...interesting
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Post by bigbundt on Jun 22, 2016 12:53:28 GMT
Why is it rude to go to an open house if you aren't actively looking? I do it sometimes but I tell the realtor straight up I am a looky loo. Sometimes they let me roam alone, sometimes they walk with me. I will usually chat with them because it is rare that there are other people looking and the realtor is just sitting there anyway. They ask for feedback a lot and I am happy to give it. And while I may not have bought one of these houses, it is a networking opportunity for the realtor (I take cards of the ones I like in case we are ever looking and have passed them on to friends who were looking) and I have actually found a house for a friend. I do prefer model homes to occupied open houses though. Just because an open house doesn't end in a transaction with me personally doesn't mean it was wasting the realtor's time. I have only been to one open house in my neighborhood but it was because they had a similar house to ours and I wanted to see if they had done something different with some of the more challenging areas. I'm not there to snoop on the people, just the house.
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Post by Meri-Lyn on Jun 22, 2016 13:04:13 GMT
There's no shame in our game where we live because as long as the house is unlocked (usually before the final flooring and appliances are installed), it's fair game for people to go through - and go through they do. Heck, when we were building, we met one of our neighbors while we were going through their house and they came to check it out. As it turns out, they had just been going through ours before they stopped in at theirs. However, this is a subdivision and the house isn't "yours" until it has closed, so I am sure I would feel differently about a house that is being subcontracted by the owner, etc. and they already have a construction loan, etc. (Not that I would know their finances, but I would just assume that it's different that a development like the one we live in) ETA: In fact, while we were looking at different floor plans, our salesperson gave us addresses of various houses in different stages of construction and told us to go through them so I assume they did that with other people too. I know a TON of people went through our house during construction because it was a new floorplan that they didn't have a model home for. It was pretty much like this in our subdivision, too. And we're glad, too, because upon wandering around our own build, we found two big mistakes that would have been hell to fix if we waited until after the drywall was put up or something. Same with our neighbors.
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Post by melodyesch on Jun 22, 2016 13:07:41 GMT
My Dad is definitely a looky-loo. There was a house built across the street and one at the side of him. He was over there EVERY DAY after the builders left walking through the spaces. After the locks went on, he peeked through the window. I don't know if he normally stops at new builds when out driving, but it wouldn't surprise me. But my Dad is a wood worker and can build anything and he's really interested in the workmanship, not how you have your house laid out or how many bedrooms you have.
When I was home visiting we were driving around and we went out to the country to see where my cousin was building his new house. The only thing that stopped us from going in was that the driveway was really dusty and my Dad didn't want to get his new car dirty. And it was on an incline and it was too hot to walk it in all that dust. Otherwise we would have been walking through the whole thing. But we just viewed it from the street.
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Post by Country Ham on Jun 22, 2016 14:43:14 GMT
FWIW, our neighbours to the north are church people, we couldn't even keep it a secret if we tried. Are you saying that people who are church goers can't keep a secret? The more I read this thread the more I think "as long as a dog doesn't go pee on the property". I did notice one person thought people should accept the societal norm of dogs peeing on lawns but seemed to be against someone walking through a building being built, yet for some it's considered a normal practice too. Save
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Post by gina on Jun 22, 2016 16:27:12 GMT
Everything bothers me (lol) and this really wouldn't bother me at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 21:16:18 GMT
FWIW, our neighbours to the north are church people, we couldn't even keep it a secret if we tried. Are you saying that people who are church goers can't keep a secret? The more I read this thread the more I think "as long as a dog doesn't go pee on the property". I did notice one person thought people should accept the societal norm of dogs peeing on lawns but seemed to be against someone walking through a building being built, yet for some it's considered a normal practice too. SaveLol, sorry I can see how that looks terrible. I didn't even think how that would come across. I just meant that the neighbours to the north go to our church, and so if one church members knows then anyone they're friends with knows, and Any church friends know when they go visit them too and see us working. And its not that I expect to keep our location a secret, not even sure if you could manage that. I'd just expect a little privacy. Around here you don't go on people's property without the owners permission, but it seems that rule flies as soon as there's a home under construction.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 21:19:14 GMT
Everything bothers me (lol) and this really wouldn't bother me at all. Well if it doesn't bother you then I'll just be ok with it.
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