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Post by mikewozowski on Jun 24, 2016 13:53:10 GMT
is there some reason that thomas barely has a job to do anymore. did he do something that cause him to fall out of favor (besides just being thomas and being a turd all the time) that i am forgetting. carson is treating him like crap and i was wondering if something happened that i just don't remember?
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Post by kaylo on Jun 24, 2016 13:56:18 GMT
is there some reason that thomas barely has a job to do anymore. did he do something that cause him to fall out of favor (besides just being thomas and being a turd all the time) that i am forgetting. carson is treating him like crap and i was wondering if something happened that i just don't remember? Don't want to post in case someone hasn't watched it all so
I'm trying to remember, was it something to do with him being gay? |
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Post by sueg on Jun 24, 2016 13:58:05 GMT
is there some reason that thomas barely has a job to do anymore. did he do something that cause him to fall out of favor (besides just being thomas and being a turd all the time) that i am forgetting. carson is treating him like crap and i was wondering if something happened that i just don't remember? Don't want to post in case someone hasn't watched it all so
I'm trying to remember, was it something to do with him being gay? I think that (your spoiler!) is basically it. They tried to move him on, but that didn't work out so well. |
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Post by melanell on Jun 24, 2016 14:12:57 GMT
Robert once made a remark along the lines of "Who has an under-butler these days?" at one point. If I recall, as they tightened the reins on spending around the estate, they wanted to try to cut out that position, and so they had to start to work as if Thomas wouldn't be there in the future, therefore giving him less and less to do. |
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Post by myshelly on Jun 24, 2016 14:13:42 GMT
He was told to look for another job (as part of DA cutting staff to save money) and Carson is very out out that it is taking him so long to find another job.
I believe Carson wanted to let him go immediately, but Mary or Lord Grantham said he could stay until he found another job.
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Post by mikewozowski on Jun 24, 2016 14:28:19 GMT
did he go to another house and it didn't go well? if so, i have forgotten.
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Post by myshelly on Jun 24, 2016 14:31:04 GMT
did he go to another house and it didn't go well? if so, i have forgotten. I'm not sure where you are so this may be a spoiler if you haven't finished season 6 - Yes, he went to be butler at the house of a very old lord and his wife. He was the only staff member. There wasn't much for him to do and he was lonely and bored. |
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Post by candygurl on Jun 24, 2016 14:31:58 GMT
Yes he did but it was for an old man and there wasn't a lot of staff or much going on. He missed Downton and came back.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 14:32:01 GMT
Carson was never a Thomas Barrow fan. He knew Thomas was underhanded. Wasn't there something early on about him taking Carson's wallet? Later in Season 2, Thomas was made a manager of Downton's convalescent hospital for the Army and lorded it over Carson and the rest of the staff.
I think Carson's dislike of him was a culmination of all the crappy things Thomas did over the years. When it came time to downsize, Carson was more than happy to see Thomas go.
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Post by Loydene on Jun 24, 2016 15:07:46 GMT
In Season 6 Thomas decided to "be nicer" and realized that most of the dislike he felt was not because he was gay, but because he was mean (reflection of current social mores). At the time Thomas decided to be nice and that Downton Abbey and everyone there had always extended him courtesy, Downton needs to downsize and Thomas is the obvious extraneous staff member. So Thomas covers his disappointment and unhappy in "pissy"; Carson doesn't mind that Thomas needs to go.
Ultimately, Carson has his "issues" and Thomas, as a guest in the house for ... the wedding reception?? ... jumps in to be helpful and solves the problem of "what to do about Carson".
Happy Ending.
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Post by mikewozowski on Jun 24, 2016 16:50:03 GMT
thank you all.
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Post by lisae on Jun 24, 2016 16:59:17 GMT
They needed to cut costs and they deemed Thomas the most dispensable since he had become the "under-butler." Plus no one really liked him upstairs or downstairs.
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Post by scrappysurfer on Jun 24, 2016 17:36:28 GMT
They needed to cut costs and they deemed Thomas the most dispensable since he had become the "under-butler." Plus no one really liked him upstairs or downstairs. This. The wage tax increased so they basically couldn't afford his position, plus times had changed and made his position obsolete. |
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Post by QueenoftheSloths on Jun 24, 2016 21:48:34 GMT
Yes, we just finished watching this season last week. It was a combination of finances and his clashes with the other staff. The family was actually pretty accepting of his being gay. And since Master George will one day be Lord Grantham, it bodes well for Thomas that George likes him so much.
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