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Post by mellowyellow on Jun 30, 2016 17:27:53 GMT
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Post by pealikecrazy on Jun 30, 2016 17:34:26 GMT
mellowyellow - where do you live? This is basically "right down the street" from me. It's in Katy and I'm in Sugar Land. Terribly tragic. I did not read the story in your link, but heard on the news that is was her husband's birthday and she called the family meeting to kill them so that he would suffer because of it. She wanted to leave him alive...which she did. TRAGIC!
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Post by dazeepetals on Jun 30, 2016 17:35:40 GMT
This happened less than a mile down the street from me. I live in the same sub-division as this family.
It's horrible and has shocked our "small" little suburb.
The whole situation is horrible. The oldest was supposed to be married on Monday/Tuesday and the murders happened on the father's birthday.
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Post by mellowyellow on Jun 30, 2016 17:36:20 GMT
Yep...I'm in Katy. Yes, that's exactly what happened. I just cannot stop thinking about that poor dad.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 17:37:41 GMT
How messed up do you have to be to kill your own children to make someone else suffer? I just cannot wrap my mind around that.
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Post by pealikecrazy on Jun 30, 2016 17:41:38 GMT
I know! The poor dad! And Troy Nehls has had enough going on out here (with flooding, etc...) you could tell he was just frustrated that that woman did this. Are you (or any of you in this area) a member of Nextdoor.com? Troy Nehls encourages people to join. I have joined and he will post things about crime rings...etc...we had someone who was stealing TRUCK TIRES in our neighborhood. He gives updates about such things. It's kind of helpful to know what is going on!
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Post by sarahbee on Jun 30, 2016 17:41:55 GMT
I have been reading updates as well. Such an awful, awful situation. I cannot comprehend how someone could murder their own children, much less to spite someone else.
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Post by nicole2112 on Jun 30, 2016 17:48:17 GMT
I have been glued to updates about this poor family all weekend/week as well. It's unimaginable that she did this to her family.
It's been reported that she's had several suicide attempts and that her and her husband had recently gotten back together?
She must have been severely disassociated to shoot her children and kill them like that. I just cannot even fathom this...
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 30, 2016 17:48:27 GMT
I read this story yesterday. The shame is that she had a history of mental illness/issues, known by family and police, yet was still able to carry a gun. Horrible horrible murders.
I read that the husband was despondent totally crushed seeing his daughters being killed that he was taken to the hospital.
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Post by johnnysmom on Jun 30, 2016 17:48:58 GMT
How awful  Just another example of how we need to educate people about the correlation between mental health and gun ownership (not sure I'm explaining it well enough, hopefully ykwim). She had been in a mental health center, multiple times, and yet someone gave her a gun. Presumably her husband knew she had access to this gun, knew she was on multiple medications for depression, knew she'd expressed suicidal thoughts, knew she had been in a mental health center multiple times. Why did she have access to this gun??
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Post by mellowyellow on Jun 30, 2016 17:53:44 GMT
I know! The poor dad! And Troy Nehls has had enough going on out here (with flooding, etc...) you could tell he was just frustrated that that woman did this. Are you (or any of you in this area) a member of Nextdoor.com? Troy Nehls encourages people to join. I have joined and he will post things about crime rings...etc...we had someone who was stealing TRUCK TIRES in our neighborhood. He gives updates about such things. It's kind of helpful to know what is going on! No, I'm not but I will go check it out. Thanks!
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Post by bc2ca on Jun 30, 2016 18:08:28 GMT
How awful Just another example of how we need to educate people about the correlation between mental health and gun ownership (not sure I'm explaining it well enough, hopefully ykwim). She had been in a mental health center, multiple times, and yet someone gave her a gun. Presumably her husband knew she had access to this gun, knew she was on multiple medications for depression, knew she'd expressed suicidal thoughts, knew she had been in a mental health center multiple times. Why did she have access to this gun?? From the story, the gun came from her grandfather and it looks like the mental health spiral happened after his death. I agree though, why wouldn't the family remove her access to the gun given the state of her mental health.
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Post by mellowyellow on Jun 30, 2016 18:09:48 GMT
How awful Just another example of how we need to educate people about the correlation between mental health and gun ownership (not sure I'm explaining it well enough, hopefully ykwim). She had been in a mental health center, multiple times, and yet someone gave her a gun. Presumably her husband knew she had access to this gun, knew she was on multiple medications for depression, knew she'd expressed suicidal thoughts, knew she had been in a mental health center multiple times. Why did she have access to this gun?? From the story, the gun came from her grandfather and it looks like the mental health spiral happened after his death. I agree though, why wouldn't the family remove her access to the gun given the state of her mental health. I also read in another report that she tried to get her CHL but was denied.
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Post by pudgygroundhog on Jun 30, 2016 18:12:21 GMT
How awful Just another example of how we need to educate people about the correlation between mental health and gun ownership (not sure I'm explaining it well enough, hopefully ykwim). She had been in a mental health center, multiple times, and yet someone gave her a gun. Presumably her husband knew she had access to this gun, knew she was on multiple medications for depression, knew she'd expressed suicidal thoughts, knew she had been in a mental health center multiple times. Why did she have access to this gun?? From the story, the gun came from her grandfather and it looks like the mental health spiral happened after his death. I agree though, why wouldn't the family remove her access to the gun given the state of her mental health. I had the same thoughts. But given some of her posts on social media (e.g. “It would be horribly tragic if my ability to protect myself or my family were to be taken away, but that’s exactly what Democrats are determined to do by banning semi-automatic handguns.”), I doubt it would have been easy for anybody to take the guns away. What a horrible story.
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Post by Sam on Jun 30, 2016 18:12:36 GMT
I've seen this story reported on Daily Mail On-line over the last few days - they seem to be keeping up with it.
Terrible situation and so very sad for the family.
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Post by johnnysmom on Jun 30, 2016 18:22:52 GMT
I doubt it would have been easy for anybody to take the guns away. I'm sure. But I bet her husband is now thinking "if only I'd tried.....". I"m not meaning to pick apart this story, it's horribly tragic and may not have been preventable. But in so many cases like this there is often someone, somewhere, who knew the person was unstable and likely shouldn't have had guns handy. Gun laws changing are unlikely so maybe education of those close to gun owners is a better avenue. Maybe some gun safe deposit box where they can be hidden with a doctors note or something. I don't know, just thinking outloud, maybe education is the way to go.
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Post by compwalla on Jun 30, 2016 18:24:17 GMT
When my grandfather became suicidal after the death of his daughter my grandma and my dad took all the guns out of the house. Because that is what responsible gun owners do.
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 30, 2016 18:25:08 GMT
I saw that article(s) too. It is incredibly sad.
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Post by refugeepea on Jun 30, 2016 18:30:12 GMT
When my grandfather became suicidal after the death of his daughter my grandma and my dad took all the guns out of the house. Because that is what responsible gun owners do. I agree, but I also wonder with it being Texas she could have bought another one within a very short time. I wouldn't doubt it either based on her Facebook posts.
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Post by Chips on Jun 30, 2016 18:35:11 GMT
When my grandfather became suicidal after the death of his daughter my grandma and my dad took all the guns out of the house. Because that is what responsible gun owners do. This ^^^ My heart is broken over those two girls being killed by their birth parent (who clearly lost every Mom title out there). That beotch is rotting in hell for sure!
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Post by bazinga on Jun 30, 2016 18:36:57 GMT
When my grandfather became suicidal after the death of his daughter my grandma and my dad took all the guns out of the house. Because that is what responsible gun owners do. Sometimes the mentally ill person hides the gun. Unfortunately, I'm speaking from experience.
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Post by nicole2112 on Jun 30, 2016 18:42:15 GMT
The shame is that she had a history of mental illness/issues, known by family and police, yet was still able to carry a gun. Just for clarity sake she wasn't able to carry a gun. She had applied for her concealed carry permit and was denied (the reason she was denied wasn't stated). There's a difference in the laws to have one in your home or carry one on your person so I just wanted to clarify. We've removed our guns from our house in the past because of a family member being suicidal. It's not anything you play around with. Ever. They may find another way but you have to take all necessary precautions.
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Post by stampinfraulein on Jun 30, 2016 18:55:14 GMT
When my grandfather became suicidal after the death of his daughter my grandma and my dad took all the guns out of the house. Because that is what responsible gun owners do. Yes. My dad has had problems with prescription drug abuse and my brother took his gun out of the house for a long, long time. I'm so very thankful he did. Save
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jun 30, 2016 19:09:33 GMT
How awful Just another example of how we need to educate people about the correlation between mental health and gun ownership (not sure I'm explaining it well enough, hopefully ykwim). She had been in a mental health center, multiple times, and yet someone gave her a gun. Presumably her husband knew she had access to this gun, knew she was on multiple medications for depression, knew she'd expressed suicidal thoughts, knew she had been in a mental health center multiple times. Why did she have access to this gun?? From the story, the gun came from her grandfather and it looks like the mental health spiral happened after his death. I agree though, why wouldn't the family remove her access to the gun given the state of her mental health. Having watched and read enough true crime, I feel this mother would have used any means to do this to her daughters  I have read about mothers poisoning, drowning, knifing, etc and it's incredibly sad that someone/a parent can become that mentally unbalanced.
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 30, 2016 19:14:34 GMT
From the story, the gun came from her grandfather and it looks like the mental health spiral happened after his death. I agree though, why wouldn't the family remove her access to the gun given the state of her mental health. Having watched and read enough true crime, I feel this mother would have used any means to do this to her daughters  I have read about mothers poisoning, drowning, knifing, etc and it's incredibly sad that someone/a parent can become that mentally unbalanced. Unfortunately you can't legislate away evil. 
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Jun 30, 2016 19:16:56 GMT
The shame is that she had a history of mental illness/issues, known by family and police, yet was still able to carry a gun. Just for clarity sake she wasn't able to carry a gun. She had applied for her concealed carry permit and was denied (the reason she was denied wasn't stated). There's a difference in the laws to have one in your home or carry one on your person so I just wanted to clarify. We've removed our guns from our house in the past because of a family member being suicidal. It's not anything you play around with. Ever. They may find another way but you have to take all necessary precautions. I had read that it was a gun that her grandfather gave her. I wonder how she got it then if she couldn't (wasn't supposed to) have one.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jun 30, 2016 19:24:35 GMT
How messed up do you have to be to kill your own children to make someone else suffer? I just cannot wrap my mind around that. I feel so terribly for that father. He will have to hold that pain forever.He will always live with the what-ifs, the if-I-only's.....
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Post by Blind Squirrel on Jun 30, 2016 20:47:24 GMT
Horrific
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Post by mirabelleswalker on Jun 30, 2016 21:43:20 GMT
Having watched and read enough true crime, I feel this mother would have used any means to do this to her daughters  I have read about mothers poisoning, drowning, knifing, etc and it's incredibly sad that someone/a parent can become that mentally unbalanced. Unfortunately you can't legislate away evil.  No. But if she had only, say, a knife at her disposal it's much more likely that her daughters would have been able to outrun her or survive their injuries.
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Post by julieb on Jun 30, 2016 21:57:13 GMT
How messed up do you have to be to kill your own children to make someone else suffer? I just cannot wrap my mind around that. I think depression and bi-polar disease are greatly ignored in this country. As my SIL said recently - (my nephew is bi-polar) - you can go into the emergency room with a broken arm and see a dr. immediately, but when someone has a bi-polar episode, you have to wait 6 weeks to see a dr. It doesn't make any sense. This women obviously was suffering greatly. My mom suffers from depression and has been feeling pretty good for the last 29 years on medicine. When she had her first (and worse) episode 29 years ago she said she thought of killing herself. I was shocked and didn't understand it. She had a great life, a loving husband, 6 kids who were basically pretty good and they were enjoying themselves with traveling, etc. She said the only thing that stopped her was the thought of what it would do to us kids. What I don't understand is her need to hurt her husband in such a way as to kill her own daughters.
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