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Post by used2scrap on May 3, 2017 17:43:19 GMT
It is getting really hard to tell what decade we live in sometimes. Just horrific. I read the officer has been fired, but no charges filed yet. I started this thread almost a year ago when Alton Sterling was shot and killed by police. DOJ should be announcing fairly soon that they won't be charging the officers responsible. Philando Castile was killed the same day I believe. NRA and his employer all silent about his killer being charged with just manslaughter. It would seem no one cares. You'd only have to look at 1 or 2 responses to this original thread to see that. The history between black people and the police is longstanding but I personally think its worse now than before. Its open season with no justice for their families. They demonize/dehumanize your loved one and thats when you realize just how many American citizens could care less if you live or die. You can see the racist undertones in almost every response here Clearly not enough people or the right people care enough to see that progress needs to be greater than body cameras and back tracking police officials. It is heartbreaking and frustrating the injustices occurring. America should want to be better than this. |
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Post by femalebusiness on May 3, 2017 19:00:30 GMT
There are two issues here, racism and Olan's personality. Olan comes across as angry, strident and abrasive but I agree with most of what she says. I don't care for her delivery but I understand it. I can be equally contentious when women are considered less than and because I don't have a penis I have been denied access numerous times in my life. I get worked up just thinking about it. So I get Olan. She's put up with being a woman and black. That anger never goes away.
The second part is racism. If you are not a racist why are you taking Olan's views so personally and getting offended? Being all defensive is very telling to me.
I'm the whitest white woman you will ever meet, blonde hair, blue eyes and invisible on a white sheet. I don't get my panties in a knot when she talks about white people who are racist. I know those people exist but I'm not one of them.
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Post by ginacivey on May 3, 2017 19:07:54 GMT
I don't get my panties in a knot when she talks about white people who are racist. I know those people exist but I'm not one of them. she pretty much pointed her finger at me - more than a few times i didn't just feel painted with her broad brush |
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Post by Zee on May 3, 2017 19:13:33 GMT
Olan I'm not going to play the "who's a racist" game with you. You're angry and I get that, but your anger is completely misplaced when it's directed at me. You don't speak for all black women. You're obsessed with seeing racism on this board and it blocks any real conversation with you. My best friend is a black woman raising two young men alone. Yes, really...that's not something I'm trotting out here for any reason other than to tell you, I do have some small inkling of the fear black mothers of boys face. And I care. And there is more to fear than just the police. My comments weren't in the least racist, no matter what spin you try to put on it. There is a deep disregard for the lives of black men that exists in all spheres--in that, you're unfortunately correct. But I'm not the enemy. I don't think for one minute this will change your mind, but if you want to have these conversations here, quit labeling everyone who doesn't respond by falling all over you to tell you're right as "mean white racists". It's beneath you, you're an intelligent woman. While living in Chicago I was exposed to taunting racism on multiple occasions from black women, but I would never put that label on all black women because I've known many warm, caring black women who accepted me into their social circles as a friend.
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Post by Zee on May 3, 2017 19:25:32 GMT
There are two issues here, racism and Olan's personality. Olan comes across as angry, strident and abrasive but I agree with most of what she says. I don't care for her delivery but I understand it. I can be equally contentious when women are considered less than and because I don't have a penis I have been denied access numerous times in my life. I get worked up just thinking about it. So I get Olan. She's put up with being a woman and black. That anger never goes away. The second part is racism. If you are not a racist why are you taking Olan's views so personally and getting offended? Being all defensive is very telling to me. I'm the whitest white woman you will ever meet, blonde hair, blue eyes and invisible on a white sheet. I don't get my panties in a knot when she talks about white people who are racist. I know those people exist but I'm not one of them. Because she just called me out? I was bothered the first time she leveled that accusation at me because I have never had any problem with her and it upset me to be called a racist, but she's grown so increasingly hostile that I guess I need to just accept that that's what she thinks and let it go. She used to come here and discuss many topics with a unique perspective, but her agenda now is just to come here and call us all racists. Not much room for discourse. |
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Post by Olan on May 3, 2017 19:26:51 GMT
I don't get my panties in a knot when she talks about white people who are racist. I know those people exist but I'm not one of them. she pretty much pointed her finger at me - more than a few times i didn't just feel painted with her broad brush *sighs* Gina please be honest when you speak of your interactions with me. If you don't quote me it didn't happen. We've established I'm an abrasive angry black woman but unlike you and leftturnonly I stand by what I say. You said what you said and then sent a pea mail referencing history we.do.not.have. with a half-assed apology. femalebusiness if issues related to women are important to you what do you think about the habit of both men and women to immediately assign angry black woman to anyone who doesn't behave like you think they should behave. That anger never goes away? You know this first hand as a white woman right? If black people are so angry why are racist white people still breathing? All the horrible things we've endured and have you noticed how openly forgiving most black people are. The media loves reporting on it! Society loves telling us we must stop living in the past if we are to move on as a country. But this angry dangerous black idea keeps being perpetuated and 45 is president. You guys hated a black man so much so that to punish us all you elected Donald Fucking Trump as leader of the free world. But I'm angry! Note I'm the only one pea accused of being angry here. |
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Post by ginacivey on May 3, 2017 19:31:02 GMT
You said what you said and then sent a pea mail referencing history we.do.not.have. with a half-assed apology. (i don't know why that date up there is wonky - the quote is from the response right above this one) you should stick that in your signature...you've trotted it out every.single.time. we've had any back and forth this is my 'apology' to her from last year that she likes to bring up she never responded to this she publicly told me to shove this note up my ass - or something like that it'd probably take just a minute to find it so if there is a problem - you are the one with it keep on ..keepin on! |
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Post by Olan on May 3, 2017 19:32:46 GMT
Olan I'm not going to play the "who's a racist" game with you. You're angry and I get that, but your anger is completely misplaced when it's directed at me. You don't speak for all black women. You're obsessed with seeing racism on this board and it blocks any real conversation with you. My best friend is a black woman raising two young men alone. Yes, really...that's not something I'm trotting out here for any reason other than to tell you, I do have some small inkling of the fear black mothers of boys face. And I care. And there is more to fear than just the police. My comments weren't in the least racist, no matter what spin you try to put on it. There is a deep disregard for the lives of black men that exists in all spheres--in that, you're unfortunately correct. But I'm not the enemy. I don't think for one minute this will change your mind, but if you want to have these conversations here, quit labeling everyone who doesn't respond by falling all over you to tell you're right as "mean white racists". It's beneath you, you're an intelligent woman. While living in Chicago I was exposed to taunting racism on multiple occasions from black women, but I would never put that label on all black women because I've known many warm, caring black women who accepted me into their social circles as a friend. Again assigning anger to me so that anything I say can be dismissed. Black on black crime is the same as white on white crime. When you bring it up in a discussion like this I'm going to assume you are racist. I would probably be right because thats what all racists say when asked by so many unarmed black men have been killed by police. Just because kids in Chicago are killing each other doesn't mean Jordan Edwards deserved a bullet to his forehead! If you want to address black on black crime I'm sure your one black friend can share with you ways to help. I don't speak for all black women but trust me you'd be a fool to disregard everything I say. I don't need to spin your comments by the way and didnt even try. There is no need. Is anyone seeing this? |
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Post by Olan on May 3, 2017 19:33:39 GMT
You said what you said and then sent a pea mail referencing history we.do.not.have. with a half-assed apology. you should stick that in your signature...you've trotted it out every.single.time. we've had any back and forth Gina we only have a short bit of history. This is it. You bring this up and I respond with the exact same thing because you have no proof otherwise and my memory is pretty long. I remember your idiotic posting style, your attack on me in this thread and in maybe one or two others all referencing this very thread and thats it. I won't be engaging with you unless you have a quote to share or a specific instance where I've painted you with a broad racist brush. When? Where? Show us! If it would only take a min to find that begs the question why haven't you found it and posted it yet. Your Peamail Reads: i don't even know why we ended up rubbing each other so wrong i don't want this - i don't want my initial reaction to your post to be how i feel about you and i don't want you to shrug off any of my attempts because you don't like me or are pissed about some past transgression i think our reactions to one another on this thread have more to do with the past than they do with current events gina If I told you to shove a note up your ass it would be on this very thread. Find it and quote me. Don't be a liar. What past are you referencing in your peamail. What is this history we have? Same with femalebusiness she knows my life story and the level of anger I've acquired over the years yet I don't remember interacting with her in any meaningful way on 2peas at all. |
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Post by femalebusiness on May 3, 2017 20:02:43 GMT
Yes Olan I do know, as a white woman, that the anger never goes away. I will never, ever get over the mistreatment that I have experienced over the years as a woman. I grew up in the dark ages and it wasn't pretty if you were a woman. I will be angry about it until the day I die. I get very pissed off when I hear how some white people talk about Mexicans. I hate that color of the skin bullshit. I've dealt with those issues my entire adult life.
As far as the habit of assigning the label angry black woman to any black woman who doesn't behave like the accuser thinks they should, there will always be people who have a need to put individuals into a box. Also happens when black people put all white people into the racist box. All black people don't do that and neither do all white people.
Hell, l've been called a bitch for standing up for myself more than once. It more or less rolls off my back. I know they do it because they are intimidated.
PS...if you ever figure out how to let go of the anger over the injustice, clue me in will ya? I don't see a way of ever putting my anger to rest.
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Post by Olan on May 3, 2017 20:28:30 GMT
Note how twice this has become a conversation about how Olan should behave or respond. Where are the safety pin wearing allies? People who stand up for whats right? Saying I told you so when so much is at stake (life and death) doesn't feel satisfying. This type of discourse leads me to think that white people are invested in things remaining exactly as they are.
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Post by Zee on May 3, 2017 20:29:45 GMT
Olan I'm not going to play the "who's a racist" game with you. You're angry and I get that, but your anger is completely misplaced when it's directed at me. You don't speak for all black women. You're obsessed with seeing racism on this board and it blocks any real conversation with you. My best friend is a black woman raising two young men alone. Yes, really...that's not something I'm trotting out here for any reason other than to tell you, I do have some small inkling of the fear black mothers of boys face. And I care. And there is more to fear than just the police. My comments weren't in the least racist, no matter what spin you try to put on it. There is a deep disregard for the lives of black men that exists in all spheres--in that, you're unfortunately correct. But I'm not the enemy. I don't think for one minute this will change your mind, but if you want to have these conversations here, quit labeling everyone who doesn't respond by falling all over you to tell you're right as "mean white racists". It's beneath you, you're an intelligent woman. While living in Chicago I was exposed to taunting racism on multiple occasions from black women, but I would never put that label on all black women because I've known many warm, caring black women who accepted me into their social circles as a friend. Again assigning anger to me so that anything I say can be dismissed. Black on black crime is the same as white on white crime. When you bring it up in a discussion like this I'm going to assume you are racist. I would probably be right because thats what all racists say when asked by so many unarmed black men have been killed by police. Just because kids in Chicago are killing each other doesn't mean Jordan Edwards deserved a bullet to his forehead! If you want to address black on black crime I'm sure your one black friend can share with you ways to help. I don't speak for all black women but trust me you'd be a fool to disregard everything I say. I don't need to spin your comments by the way and didnt even try. There is no need. Is anyone seeing this? You assume I'm racist because I'm sad and disgusted at the deaths of all black men? Because I, as a white woman, am not allowed to have a viewpoint on this or I'm a racist...do I have that correct? Gotcha. You are by your own admission, angry. No other way to put it. And I get that this topic is one that we should all be angry about. Your attitude towards most everyone who dares to post a thought is dismissive and abrasive, though. |
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Post by Zee on May 3, 2017 20:32:51 GMT
Note how twice this has become a conversation about how Olan should behave or respond. Where are the safety pin wearing allies? People who stand up for whats right? Saying I told you so when so much is at stake (life and death) doesn't feel satisfying. This type of discourse leads me to think that white people are invested in things remaining exactly as they are. Again, there is no discourse with you. "Your one black friend" is rude and dismissive and a typical response from you. |
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Post by Olan on May 3, 2017 20:39:41 GMT
Again assigning anger to me so that anything I say can be dismissed. Black on black crime is the same as white on white crime. When you bring it up in a discussion like this I'm going to assume you are racist. I would probably be right because thats what all racists say when asked by so many unarmed black men have been killed by police. Just because kids in Chicago are killing each other doesn't mean Jordan Edwards deserved a bullet to his forehead! If you want to address black on black crime I'm sure your one black friend can share with you ways to help. I don't speak for all black women but trust me you'd be a fool to disregard everything I say. I don't need to spin your comments by the way and didnt even try. There is no need. Is anyone seeing this? You assume I'm racist because I'm sad and disgusted at the deaths of all black men? Because I, as a white woman, am not allowed to have a viewpoint on this or I'm a racist...do I have that correct? Gotcha. You are by your own admission, angry. No other way to put it. And I get that this topic is one that we should all be angry about. Your attitude towards most everyone who dares to post a thought is dismissive and abrasive, though. In a discussion about the killing of unarmed black people you bring up black on black crime and poverty. You do so as if to say "if black on black crime is okay why are you so angry when a cop shoots a black kid". Does anyone ask why white people shoot up schools when some injustice befalls them? No we deal with the injustice first! Haven't we already established no one cares if I call them racist because I'm just an angry black woman anyway? Could we view everything through that lens and get back to the topic at hand which despite how fun this must be for you...isnt how angry I am in response to the thinly veiled racist comments I respond to here. Are you reading what you've wrote? There is no discourse because I only want to discuss Jordan Edward and you want to detract from that and talk about how angry I am. Does anyone want to talk about what we can do so that no more unarmed black kids get shot. Tamir Rice didnt break your hearts? beachgurl pretty much said that underage drinking and house parties should be the first thing that we tackle. How is everyone so unaffected by this? Seriously. |
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Post by Zee on May 3, 2017 20:43:29 GMT
You assume I'm racist because I'm sad and disgusted at the deaths of all black men? Because I, as a white woman, am not allowed to have a viewpoint on this or I'm a racist...do I have that correct? Gotcha. You are by your own admission, angry. No other way to put it. And I get that this topic is one that we should all be angry about. Your attitude towards most everyone who dares to post a thought is dismissive and abrasive, though. In a discussion about the killing of unarmed black people you bring up black on black crime and poverty. You do so as if to say "if black on black crime is okay why are you so angry when a cop shoots a black kid". Does anyone ask why white people shoot up schools when some injustice befalls them? No we deal with the injustice first! Haven't we already established no one cares if I call them racist because I'm just an angry black woman anyway? Could we view everything through that lens and get back to the topic at hand which despite how fun this must be for you...isnt how angry I am in response to the thinly veiled racist comments I respond to here. Are you reading what you've wrote? It's not "fun" for me. Have YOU read what I wrote? I do sincerely apologize if you took my bringing up ALL black lives on this thread as a racist insult. That absolutely was never my intent. I didn't stop to think that you might see it that way, and for that I am sorry. I can do no more than apologize for sharing thoughts that could be seen as insensitive in that context. |
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Post by Olan on May 3, 2017 20:56:22 GMT
In a discussion about the killing of unarmed black people you bring up black on black crime and poverty. You do so as if to say "if black on black crime is okay why are you so angry when a cop shoots a black kid". Does anyone ask why white people shoot up schools when some injustice befalls them? No we deal with the injustice first! Haven't we already established no one cares if I call them racist because I'm just an angry black woman anyway? Could we view everything through that lens and get back to the topic at hand which despite how fun this must be for you...isnt how angry I am in response to the thinly veiled racist comments I respond to here. Are you reading what you've wrote? It's not "fun" for me. Have YOU read what I wrote? I do sincerely apologize if you took my bringing up ALL black lives on this thread as a racist insult. That absolutely was never my intent. I didn't stop to think that you might see it that way, and for that I am sorry. I can do no more than apologize for sharing thoughts that could be seen as insensitive in that context. I am reading what I wrote. Rereading it in fact! You don't have to apologize for your thoughts/comments nor do we have to agree about black on black crime as it relates to the police killing unarmed black men. You said "I don't think for one minute this will change your mind, but if you want to have these conversations here, quit labeling everyone who doesn't respond by falling all over you to tell you're right as "mean white racists". It's beneath you, you're an intelligent woman." So don't insult that intelligence by calling me angry instead of discussing the issue at hand. If you've got nothing to add fine. What the responders here did was made this a personal attack on me when I am just calling things as anyone would see them. Your comments about black on black crime and poverty were called out by someone I don't know if she is white or black but do understand that it isnt just Olan who will take your comments in this thread and determine...yep she's one of those people. Who really cares even you all said you didnt by the way, but my objective isnt to label every single pea racist or tolerant. Thats not my job. Who would that even help. Certainly not Jordan Edwards. What exactly is the argument here that I'm mean and angry so its okay that black people are being killed? Or that I'm mean and angry so any topic I bring to the table to discuss should be ignored? What is everyone saying? |
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Post by Olan on May 3, 2017 20:59:56 GMT
www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/opinions/edwards-death-lesson-opinion-tisby/index.htmlFor those of you intentionally missing the point. beachgurl said "There is so much wrong with this story but quite honestly one of the things wrong was that there was even a loud large party featuring under-age drinking in the first place. Not acceptable, and I don't care what race you are. No, it is not an acceptable teen activity that everyone does. So while this shooting and lack of medical care are entirely unacceptable, so is the entire situation. It doesn't justify the shooting, but it also would not have even happened otherwise. I'm tired of hearing how awful I am when I complain about inappropriate policing. I also don't care how many black people were accepted into Harvard or whatever. I just want to know if they picked the best candidates available. Don't worry Olan, I'll go click "block" and avoid your posts in the future. Whatever happens out there to black people, I guess I am ok with it, I am white after all so I really need to stop caring." Tell where again where I just jumped the track and immediately went angry black woman again? You do see what her intentions were all along right? Is beachgurl tolerant and kind?
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Post by used2scrap on May 3, 2017 21:02:36 GMT
How is everyone so unaffected by this?
I think if the last election shows us anything, it is how small the bubbles we create and live in really are. There are multiple facets of injustices in the world, and people angry and outraged and engaged behind multiple causes for change. And of course many ambivalent people who really don't care about anything outside their bubble, until their own bubble is personally burst.
It is sad and frustrating, and if middle class women and working class women, and women "of color" and "white" women could ever overcome a multitude of divisions they could be a formidable force for changes. I think one of the most profound photos from the women's march was the black women kind of rolling their eyes with protest signs while the group of young white women were taking selfies.
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Post by Olan on May 3, 2017 21:12:14 GMT
How is everyone so unaffected by this? I think if the last election shows us anything, it is how small the bubbles we create and live in really are. There are multiple facets of injustices in the world, and people angry and outraged and engaged behind multiple causes for change. And of course many ambivalent people who really don't care about anything outside their bubble, until their own bubble is personally burst. It is sad and frustrating, and if middle class women and working class women, and women "of color" and "white" women could ever overcome a multitude of divisions they could be a formidable force for changes. I think one of the most profound photos from the women's march was the black women kind of rolling their eyes with protest signs while the group of young white women were taking selfies. You mean the one that said "Remember 54% of white women voted for Trump". So tell me again why is everyone is arguing me down about how tolerant the world has become. Is that what the argument was? I'm still a little confused. I'm going to get my broad brush out again but eh when you place the value of yourself as a woman beneath your hate for someone else I'd say we are pretty fucked. And yes this is just my own personal view of what happened in the election but it would seem 54% knew he was a stupid human being and horrible husband and they were still like nope thats our man because Obama was black and Mexicans are rapists. You want me to challenge myself and believe that despite whats going on in the world and whats happened in the past white people are still excellent human beings but 45 tells you everyone is a bad hombre and you're passing out water while the wall is being built.  |
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Post by River on May 3, 2017 21:13:02 GMT
Sorry for going off topic and taking your comments as snark. I apologize for being snippy.
You want to talk about Edward Jordan. My thoughts is that this is a tragedy that shouldn't happen. I am sick every time I read about one of these stories. It does break my heart for everyone that has to experience this. I don't have any answers as to how to stop this sort of tragedy from happening. I know that's not enough. So here's what I'll do. When I get home, I'll bring this story to the attention of my boys and DH. I'll start a discussion about it with my friends. Bringing more attention to it in my little sheltered life may not have much of an impact, but it's what I can offer.
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Post by Olan on May 3, 2017 21:13:37 GMT
Sorry for going off topic and taking your comments as snark. I apologize for being snippy. You want to talk about Edward Jordan. My thoughts is that this is a tragedy that shouldn't happen. I am sick every time I read about one of these stories. It does break my heart for everyone that has to experience this. I don't have any answers as to how to stop this sort of tragedy from happening. I know that's not enough. So here's what I'll do. When I get home, I'll bring this story to the attention of my boys and DH. I'll start a discussion about it with my friends. Bringing more attention to it in my little sheltered life may not have much of an impact, but it's what I can offer. I appreciate that. |
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Post by MizIndependent on May 3, 2017 21:16:55 GMT
Fuck you. You changed my words and that is not what I said and you know it. I do not give a shit that you are black. I will now put you on ignore with the rest of the intolerant white people on my list. Everyone can read what you said. I added my own spin to your comments because thats basically how I received what you said. Calm down. Look at you here! Again why so angry? Ignore me all you want. It really is no skin off my back. Truly. And that's where I stop reading. Only you are responsible for how you receive what is said here or anywhere. No one lives your head with you and it's pretty damn insulting that you think it's alright to behave this way. ETA: Speaking to the topic at hand, I can't believe this is still happening. I would like to think that body cams are preventing this type of behavior in law enforcement but I guess there's just a specific type of officer that doesn't care and thinks he/she can still get away with lying outright to justify a totally and completely unjustifiable act of violence. I'm just so angry and sad about it all. |
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Post by River on May 3, 2017 21:18:12 GMT
This was a great article. Thank you for sharing! ETA: I completely disagree with you stating that people are intentionally missing the point. Can you not see how that one statement may stop many, many people from even reading such a great article? I don't believe for a second that people are missing the point! These tragedies should not happen and need to stop happening. I have seen no one argue against that point. |
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Post by Olan on May 3, 2017 21:30:01 GMT
This was a great article. Thank you for sharing! ETA: I completely disagree with you stating that people are intentionally missing the point. Can you not see how that one statement may stop many, many people from even reading such a great article? I don't believe for a second that people are missing the point! These tragedies should not happen and need to stop happening. I have seen no one argue against that point.No I can not see how my honest and forthright assessment of where this thread has headed could deter people from reading a CNN article. Either they want to be better more tolerant and informed people or they don't. Also what thread are you viewing? 90% of this exchange has been about my attitude not this kids death at all. Did you see beachgurl comment? What do you think about that? Its only been 2-3 pages of this but we know that the peas who feel the same way will simply like the most outlandish comment made and then back out of the thread taking away Olan's wrathful anger. Did refugeepea reacted in an angry fashion? How about Gina and beachgurl. I'll say this again...if you watch it happen and sit silently I respect people like Zee and beachgurl much much more. |
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Post by epeanymous on May 3, 2017 21:40:34 GMT
There is so much wrong with this story but quite honestly one of the things wrong was that there was even a loud large party featuring under-age drinking in the first place. Not acceptable, and I don't care what race you are. No, it is not an acceptable teen activity that everyone does. So while this shooting and lack of medical care are entirely unacceptable, so is the entire situation. It doesn't justify the shooting, but it also would not have even happened otherwise. 78% of teens have tried alcohol, and almost half have tried drugs.
True story, not only did I drink and attend parties as a teen (as a straight-A student who went on to an Ivy), but I actually once encountered the police when I was extremely intoxicated. You know what they did? Took me home to my parents. When they would show up at parties, they would tell everyone to go home. When did getting shot by a police officer become something you would think was just a standard thing that might happen to you if you did a thing that the overwhelming majority of teens do at some point? It shouldn't be.
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Post by Olan on May 3, 2017 21:45:45 GMT
Everyone can read what you said. I added my own spin to your comments because thats basically how I received what you said. Calm down. Look at you here! Again why so angry? Ignore me all you want. It really is no skin off my back. Truly. And that's where I stop reading. Only you are responsible for how you receive what is said here or anywhere. No one lives your head with you and it's pretty damn insulting that you think it's alright to behave this way.ETA: Speaking to the topic at hand, I can't believe this is still happening. I would like to think that body cams are preventing this type of behavior in law enforcement but I guess there's just a specific type of officer that doesn't care and thinks he/she can still get away with lying outright to justify a totally and completely unjustifiable act of violence. I'm just so angry and sad about it all. What was insulting about what I said to refugeepea ? Its now insulting to share how I received a comment? Isnt the whole phrase "No one is in your head" meant to encourage people to share exactly what is in their head in a way that would be constructive and helpful to the person who made the comment? Again is anyone watching this? Your silence against fuckery perpetrates fuckery. Where is compwalla and her clicker. #Resist this crazy line of thinking. She told me to fuck off but I'm insulting? She got all butthurt because I didnt set her apart from the other peas and pat her on the back for a comment she made last year? Really? |
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MizIndependent
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Post by MizIndependent on May 3, 2017 21:59:35 GMT
And that's where I stop reading. Only you are responsible for how you receive what is said here or anywhere. No one lives your head with you and it's pretty damn insulting that you think it's alright to behave this way.ETA: Speaking to the topic at hand, I can't believe this is still happening. I would like to think that body cams are preventing this type of behavior in law enforcement but I guess there's just a specific type of officer that doesn't care and thinks he/she can still get away with lying outright to justify a totally and completely unjustifiable act of violence. I'm just so angry and sad about it all. What was insulting about what I said to refugeepea ? Its now insulting to share how I received a comment? Isnt the whole phrase "No one is in your head" meant to encourage people to share exactly what is in their head in a way that would be constructive and helpful to the person who made the comment? Again is anyone watching this? Your silence against fuckery perpetrates fuckery. Where is compwalla and her clicker. #Resist this crazy line of thinking. She told me to fuck off but I'm insulting? She got all butthurt because I didnt set her apart from the other peas and pat her on the back for a comment she made last year? Really? Don't be obtuse, Olan. You purposefully misquoted refugeepea then tried to justify doing so by giving the excuse "I added my own spin to your comments because thats basically how I received what you said" as if doing such a thing is perfectly acceptable. It is not. |
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inkedup
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Post by inkedup on May 3, 2017 23:16:13 GMT
she pretty much pointed her finger at me - more than a few times i didn't just feel painted with her broad brush *sighs* Gina please be honest when you speak of your interactions with me. If you don't quote me it didn't happen. We've established I'm an abrasive angry black woman but unlike you and leftturnonly I stand by what I say. You said what you said and then sent a pea mail referencing history we.do.not.have. with a half-assed apology. femalebusiness if issues related to women are important to you what do you think about the habit of both men and women to immediately assign angry black woman to anyone who doesn't behave like you think they should behave. That anger never goes away? You know this first hand as a white woman right? If black people are so angry why are racist white people still breathing? All the horrible things we've endured and have you noticed how openly forgiving most black people are. The media loves reporting on it! Society loves telling us we must stop living in the past if we are to move on as a country. But this angry dangerous black idea keeps being perpetuated and 45 is president. You guys hated a black man so much so that to punish us all you elected Donald Fucking Trump as leader of the free world. But I'm angry! Note I'm the only one pea accused of being angry here. I think you assign a lot of ugly motivations to, and make awful assumptions about, anyone outside of your own race and experience. You're right, Olan. All non-blacks are racist oppressors and all blacks are victims. |
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inkedup
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Post by inkedup on May 3, 2017 23:20:16 GMT
 Thanks ginacivey I'll try anyway....I can't resist! I'm white. You know what's even worse? I was raised in Alabama, in a very small, all white town. I didn't see a black person in real life until I was almost a teenager. Seen plenty on TV though, heard some awesome musicians and singers that were black on the radio. Racism wasn't discussed in my home at all. Can you believe that? Now why was my town all white? Why is it still 80% white? I have absolutely no idea, it's a great town full of kind hearted people. The different types of people that have finally found our wonderful little town also love it. I've talked to a few of the black families and they rave about the neighborhood, the low crime rates (still low) and friendly people. But I'm sure in your mind, this can't be. A little small, all white town accepting AND being friendly to black families. You see, we were all mainly raised to be kind. That was the root of all up bringing. Just be kind to others. There was never a distinction, no be kind to this kind of person or that kind of person. Just "be kind to others"! I don't doubt that there are small pockets like that, that exist. I am not saying as a whole white people are horrible mean racist people. But could we stop denying that maybe a 15 year old kid is dead and his entire family is traumatized because they are black. Why has this thread turned to pointing out how there are white people actually being good human beings to people who don't look like them as if this behavior shouldn't be expected by now. No one wants to be reminded of whats wrong.Thats why everyone hates my participation here. It would seem no one wants to change because that would A. Require you saying hey I/Society have some shortcomings. B. You like things exactly as they are!! When someone challenges the evil in society you silence the challenger and say nope we don't want to play with you anymore. That is whats happening here. Where are the peas who stand up for what is right? River what town does my family need to move to to ensure a routine traffic stop doesnt result in our death. Where? refugeepea literally said "hey I wasn't outwardly racists in my comments to you and you still said most comments had racists undertones so I won't be interacting with you anymore" ummm okay did you read what Zee said? Did you see the welcoming attitude Gina had last year? leftturnonly wanted so very badly to retract her comments but instead dug her heels in the ground with absolutely no one saying....HEY IS THIS RIGHT? No one will answer why the anger toward me or even why is the child dead if you had to guess? So what have YOU done to help your own community? You are blaming the Peas for dead black children....where are you in this? Where is your community? What are you doing that all the racist, cream of soup loving, white Peas are not doing? |
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libby
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Post by libby on May 3, 2017 23:58:08 GMT
Olan I agree with ya girly, I think this would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the many great contributions of the Black community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Their adherence to the laws of the land and upright moral codes bring a swift decrease in neighborhood crime rates. Real estate values are fueled by the influx of African Americans into an area due to their caring and respectful nurturing of these communities, an example of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self improvement by hard work and self-reliant can-do attitude. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation.
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