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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2016 22:19:56 GMT
My daughter used pods. As for the books, all the kids talk about where to get books cheapest, or who has what for sale, or which company rents them cheapest. At DD's school she didn't bother even getting the books until after the first week of class. That told her what format she wanted, and she'd get them after.
If you have Amazon Prime, they can order things and have them delivered to them at school. That was so helpful to us -- DD could have stuff at her door in two days. I think she ordered a lot of her books and supplies through Amazon.
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Post by pinkgreen on Jul 12, 2016 22:44:32 GMT
I am also a new freshman mom. And I started a thread of my own.  I know that my son can figure out what he needs to on his own, but I see this as my little part in this rite of passage. I am a planner, he is not. This is a combo of fun/stressful for me - I know that this is it. Next semester, he will be doing this all on his own. I am glad that there are other moms out there in the same boat. For those of you that have been there, done that, thank you for humoring us! What I am doing as far as the OP's questions: Laundry- he is taking a pop-up hamper and I bought the Gain tabs. If those don't work out, we can always get liquid later. His dorm has laundry facilities in the basement and the machines are free to use (meaning I am paying for them somewhere in the fees!) He knows how to do laundry, so no issues there. What about an iron? I had one (and a full sized ironing board), I am thinking of getting him an iron and one of the little ironing boards.Books- we haven't done anything with that yet. I just finished grad school and did a combo of buying and renting. I rented one book that I decided to keep, it was an easy process to go to the rental return screen and change from rent to buy, then pay the difference. If we order the books from the school bookstore, they will be delivered to his room. We also use Prime, so that's another easy (and probably cheaper) option.
We use Prime a lot at our house for all kinds of things, so I am sure that he will utilize that at school.
Bedding is my current project. There is not much variety out there for guys! All of the stores seem to have the same thing. He will probably just go with something solid.
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Post by FLA SummerBaby on Jul 12, 2016 22:57:08 GMT
My DD started college 2 years ago and here are the things we learned: 1) the washer and dryers are pretty harsh on the clothes so it is easiest to use whatever detergent actually works best (not just whatever is easiest to carry) -- DD started out with the pods but then switched to liquid even though it was a bit more of a pain to haul. (No need to stock up on quarters, most machines now run usually on the student ID cards -- they have bar-codes and can be funded with monies for lots of purposes (meals, etc.) Also, I found a "backpack style" laundry bag with a strap -- she said "that was the bomb" -- she preferred that to lug the laundry up and down the flights of stairs as it left her hands free to carry supplies, open doors, etc.
2) she preferred "real" hard copy text books to e-books (she said she needs to feel the pages) but if your DS is acclimated to e-books already, he may prefer that. She said most of her friends used e-books but she hated them. She would price books each semester and compare prices of rentals vs. purchase and also determine whether it was a book she would want to keep after the semester ended or not. She usually rents unless she wants to keep the book long-term.
3) office or school supplies? My DD is not a good example because she LOVES office supplies. But she said realistically you can get by with just notebooks, pens, pencils, post-its (for marking pages and writing notes) but she said a stapler was actually very needed -- said that everyone tends to need to borrow hers.
As for printers, she and her roommate had far more trouble with theirs and more times than not had to print elsewhere. I work at a major university and we have numerous computer labs around campus -- students are allowed a certain allotment of printing per semester and if they go over it, they can still print for a small price that auto bills to their account. So honestly, there is rarely a need for a personal printer.
Other necessities for her were a super long cable for charging her cell phone; towel wrap for walking down the hallways to communal bathroom (though I am not sure guys would have a need for these). She only had moderate success with the 3M hanging strips and hooks -- half of them stayed on the wall, the other half came crashing down pretty quickly.
The last item that we got for her and she said was really valuable in dorms -- a small safe that was tall enough to accommodate her laptop. She had a roommate who notoriously would leave the room and never lock the door. If DD was down the hall in kitchen area or bathroom, she would often come back to open room and all her stuff there for anyone to help themselves to. Once we got the safe, she didn't worry (as much) about her roommate being as careless with the door. she could keep her spare cash, nice jewelry, laptop/tablet and any other valuables protected.
Good luck mom!!!
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 12, 2016 23:27:00 GMT
Are the washers HE? If so, you should get what works best with them. Maybe wait. My son's washer would text him when it was done. We bought a few and rented a few textbooks. You will need about half of the supplies you think you will need. I would highly recommend a large monthly wall calendar for school projects and papers. Lots of stuff coming at you at once.
You didn't ask, but get a foam topper for the bed. College dorm mattresses are nasty.
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Post by Shel on Jul 12, 2016 23:47:31 GMT
My oldest will be a senior but I'm finding this thread very helpful! Already taking notes!
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Post by Linda on Jul 12, 2016 23:57:25 GMT
What about an iron? I had one (and a full sized ironing board), I am thinking of getting him an iron and one of the little ironing boards. to be honest -he's unlikely to use it unless he's in something like ROTC where there's a uniform that needs ironing (and even then - I don't think most of the guys OR girls ironed...the dry cleaner wasn't THAT expensive)
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Jul 13, 2016 0:00:55 GMT
What about an iron? I had one (and a full sized ironing board), I am thinking of getting him an iron and one of the little ironing boards. This made me laugh! I'd be surprised if my sons clean clothes even make it back in the drawers. I've told him I feel so sorry for his roommate. 
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Post by scrapnatya on Jul 13, 2016 0:19:24 GMT
My youngest is off to college in 5 weeks We have been shopping for dorm stuff this week because comforter and decor matter to her and it's fun. There's nothing wrong with asking some questions and making a list of things they need. Oldest DD started off with pods but they didn't dissolve in the school's washers so she switched. I think she mainly rented texts when she could and bought when she had to. She didn't like ebooks. I sent her with a pair of scissors and tape and a stapler but I'm a scrapbooker and like that stuff! Pens, pencils, a few spiral notebooks and folders are a good idea. There is always somewhere close by to get those basic supplies as well. I recommend some taking clorox wipes to wipe down gross dresser/desk, a power strip, an extension cord and long phone cord. My DD ended up in a forced triple her freshman year and had only one outlet! Good luck Mom! I will definitely will be needing some tissues for the ride home!
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Post by Belia on Jul 13, 2016 1:09:12 GMT
I get why you're asking. Why re-invent the wheel??? If the peas who have BTDT have experience to share, why not ask?  You're doing nothing wrong, OP. HELL NO to the iron. Not needed (unless, as a PP says, your son is in a specialized program such as ROTC or something.)
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Post by txdancermom on Jul 13, 2016 1:16:38 GMT
If dd got the book list early enough before the semester started, she would search on Amazon and see if she could get a used version, Office supplies - if your student knows they will use things then take them, if not wait and see what they need, there will be places nearby that they can get them.
they didn't have the pods when dd went to school, she took liquid and her campus was such that you could leave your detergent with your name on it in the laundry room, but that is not always the case. I can see that the pods would be more convenient.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 13, 2016 1:33:28 GMT
Four years of high school will show you what they need regarding school supplies. Did they use flash cards, highlighters, post it notes? Whatever they used in HS to maximize their learning and organization should be used in college HS and college supplies are night and day.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 13, 2016 1:37:45 GMT
HELL NO to the iron. Not needed (unless, as a PP says, your son is in a specialized program such as ROTC or something.) Actually my dd's roomie brought a small apt ironing board and iron and they used it quite a bit. More then I thought, and others on the floor borrowed it. The College has quite a few social events, dress up dinners, banquets and awards, speakers,events, where you want to look nice, and not wrinkled.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 13, 2016 1:39:02 GMT
What about an iron? I had one (and a full sized ironing board), I am thinking of getting him an iron and one of the little ironing boards. This made me laugh! I'd be surprised if my sons clean clothes even make it back in the drawers. I've told him I feel so sorry for his roommate. Downey Wrinkle Release. That is the key-all the lazy teen boy has to do is spray this magic liquid onto the wrinkled garment and tug it about. The next thing you know...wrinkle free clothes. Or...he makes friends with the cute girl on the floor below him and begs to borrow hers.
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Post by jenrah on Jul 13, 2016 1:57:31 GMT
My dd will be a senior this year and plans to use pods. She shares an apartment now with friends but when she was a freshman, she lived in a dorm. The drawers in the built-in dresser smelled odd so she lined them with dryer sheets. The habit has stuck with her and she still uses them in her closet and dresser.
As far as books, she has learned to wait until class starts to see if the books are really necessary and if they are, she rents through Amazon.
Hope this helps!
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Jul 13, 2016 2:33:32 GMT
This made me laugh! I'd be surprised if my sons clean clothes even make it back in the drawers. I've told him I feel so sorry for his roommate. Downey Wrinkle Release. That is the key-all the lazy teen boy has to do is spray this magic liquid onto the wrinkled garment and tug it about. The next thing you know...wrinkle free clothes. Or...he makes friends with the cute girl on the floor below him and begs to borrow hers. I'll send him with some Downey, thanks for the idea! And for the other...he's more likely to get her to do the ironing by offering to help with math homework. His dorm floors are co-ed so he won't even have to go to a different floor.
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Post by worrywart on Jul 13, 2016 3:19:20 GMT
He rents either through Amazon or school bookstore...and buy if he has too. Ds prefers the laundry pods, I believe. Not sure what kind of supplies he used..that was something I did leave totally in his hands but I think it was minimal..
I remember the months leading up to ds first year of college and it was so busy and so many things to remember. (((hugs)))
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Post by tmarschall on Jul 13, 2016 3:38:33 GMT
My DD started college 2 years ago and here are the things we learned: 1) the washer and dryers are pretty harsh on the clothes so it is easiest to use whatever detergent actually works best (not just whatever is easiest to carry) -- DD started out with the pods but then switched to liquid even though it was a bit more of a pain to haul. (No need to stock up on quarters, most machines now run usually on the student ID cards -- they have bar-codes and can be funded with monies for lots of purposes (meals, etc.) Also, I found a "backpack style" laundry bag with a strap -- she said "that was the bomb" -- she preferred that to lug the laundry up and down the flights of stairs as it left her hands free to carry supplies, open doors, etc. 2) she preferred "real" hard copy text books to e-books (she said she needs to feel the pages) but if your DS is acclimated to e-books already, he may prefer that. She said most of her friends used e-books but she hated them. She would price books each semester and compare prices of rentals vs. purchase and also determine whether it was a book she would want to keep after the semester ended or not. She usually rents unless she wants to keep the book long-term. 3) office or school supplies? My DD is not a good example because she LOVES office supplies. But she said realistically you can get by with just notebooks, pens, pencils, post-its (for marking pages and writing notes) but she said a stapler was actually very needed -- said that everyone tends to need to borrow hers. As for printers, she and her roommate had far more trouble with theirs and more times than not had to print elsewhere. I work at a major university and we have numerous computer labs around campus -- students are allowed a certain allotment of printing per semester and if they go over it, they can still print for a small price that auto bills to their account. So honestly, there is rarely a need for a personal printer. Other necessities for her were a super long cable for charging her cell phone; towel wrap for walking down the hallways to communal bathroom (though I am not sure guys would have a need for these). She only had moderate success with the 3M hanging strips and hooks -- half of them stayed on the wall, the other half came crashing down pretty quickly. The last item that we got for her and she said was really valuable in dorms -- a small safe that was tall enough to accommodate her laptop. She had a roommate who notoriously would leave the room and never lock the door. If DD was down the hall in kitchen area or bathroom, she would often come back to open room and all her stuff there for anyone to help themselves to. Once we got the safe, she didn't worry (as much) about her roommate being as careless with the door. she could keep her spare cash, nice jewelry, laptop/tablet and any other valuables protected. Good luck mom!!! All good advice! Just wanted to chime in as a professor, I can always tell the most conscientious students...they are the ones with the staplers on the day stuff is turned in (I still require a hard copy for grading), and everyone wants to borrow it!
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Post by Really Red on Jul 13, 2016 3:52:30 GMT
Renting books is NOT NOT NOT cheaper!!!! You pay a lot for them and you get ZERO back. My one DD (the business major!) bought all her books used from Amazon. Paid less than $200 for all and then could resell. The other DD rented and paid well over $400 and lost it all.
My girls have been doing their laundry since they were 8yo. They still suck. The pods worked best for them.
The biggest and best school supply for them was the printer. Not expensive and so very useful. I never thought of it, but even though they each got a certain amount of pages, it was just useful to have that available to them.
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Post by tmarschall on Jul 13, 2016 3:56:17 GMT
Renting books is NOT NOT NOT cheaper!!!! You pay a lot for them and you get ZERO back. My one DD (the business major!) bought all her books used from Amazon. Paid less than $200 for all and then could resell. The other DD rented and paid well over $400 and lost it all. My girls have been doing their laundry since they were 8yo. They still suck. The pods worked best for them. The biggest and best school supply for them was the printer. Not expensive and so very useful. I never thought of it, but even though they each got a certain amount of pages, it was just useful to have that available to them. I think it depends on the school, but printing can be plentiful or scarce. And while I think sometimes "the printer is broken/jammed/out of toner/occupied" may be a stall technique, it does happen. Having a printer in your room can really be convenient if your school's print stations and allowance are scarce or not in good repair.
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Post by LuvAgoodPaddle on Jul 13, 2016 14:29:46 GMT
My son finally sat down last night to figure out what he needed and what books are going to cost. One class had 3 books to choose from and he was pretty confused because they all seemed the same. Turns out it was the choice of hardback and loose-leaf books, then the 3rd ISBN didn't work. We have never heard of loose-leaf books before so we read it's just the hole punched pages and you have to put them in a binder. After he searched prices the loose-leaf was just a bit more than renting or buying a used hardback, but significantly less than buying a new hardback. Plus he gets the access codes with loose-leaf.
So other than not being able to sell it used and having to put the loose-leaf pages into a binder, we couldn't see a reason to not buy loose-leaf. Are we missing a down-side to this? In my head, I'm thinking it's kind of cool that you can make small notes right on your "book" (it's a chemistry course) and that it will lay flat. He thinks he could also keep other papers/notes, etc with the pages in the book. We haven't heard anything about this option, so when he asked our advice we didn't have any ideas. We never knew this was an option for a book before.
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Jul 13, 2016 14:36:29 GMT
My son finally sat down last night to figure out what he needed and what books are going to cost. One class had 3 books to choose from and he was pretty confused because they all seemed the same. Turns out it was the choice of hardback and loose-leaf books, then the 3rd ISBN didn't work. We have never heard of loose-leaf books before so we read it's just the hole punched pages and you have to put them in a binder. After he searched prices the loose-leaf was just a bit more than renting or buying a used hardback, but significantly less than buying a new hardback. Plus he gets the access codes with loose-leaf. So other than not being able to sell it used and having to put the loose-leaf pages into a binder, we couldn't see a reason to not buy loose-leaf. Are we missing a down-side to this? In my head, I'm thinking it's kind of cool that you can make small notes right on your "book" (it's a chemistry course) and that it will lay flat. He thinks he could also keep other papers/notes, etc with the pages in the book. We haven't heard anything about this option, so when he asked our advice we didn't have any ideas. We never knew this was an option for a book before. I would recommend waiting to buy any books. Sometimes they're not needed and he won't know that until class starts.
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Post by mari on Jul 13, 2016 15:22:43 GMT
I would recommend waiting until he has the syllabus to buy books. Some books aren't used much and the student can get the book from the library (or do a short-term rental of the e-book) to read the needed chapters.
Online books are usually cheaper than university bookstores. Look up the books by the ISBN to be sure to get the correct version. Amazon was my go-to and books are delivered with 2 days with prime.
In my grad school program, a lot of my text books were available on the Kindle Match book program. With that program, if you buy the book new from Amazon, you can buy the kindle book for $3-10. I would buy the new book, buy the kindle book, and then sell the book (as new) on Amazon's marketplace.
I rented one book from Chegg, but I'm picky about book quality and I wasn't happy with the book I received.
Occasionally, the prior edition of the book would be approved by the professor and those can be found online for just a few dollars.
Student online networks might also have a buy/sell/trade network for books. Bookstores buy-back cheap and sell high, so students often buy/sell directly to other students on campus.
If he likes e-books, I'd recommend getting a Kindle, iPad, or tablet for easy access to those books.
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Post by FLA SummerBaby on Jul 13, 2016 16:42:34 GMT
tmarschall -- that's exactly what DD has told me about her stapler -- NOBODY else carries one so everyone is always asking to borrow hers!
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Jul 13, 2016 16:53:06 GMT
Thanks so much!! He has decided to hold off on his book until he is at school. We have Amazon Prime so we will price them out ahead of time and then make sure the money is in his account when he is ready to purchase.
We had not thought about a printer. They do have printing stations throughout campus, but if they are too much of a pain then he can run to Walmart and pick up a cheap one.
I think I will set up a small container of basic office supplies from here at home. We have tons of paper clips and post its and such. That way he has some if needed. He says he has most of his school supplies already, left over from me over shopping during his high school career. He loves mechanical pencils so he said he may want a few new ones of those.
Thanks again for all the advice.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 18:38:44 GMT
Thanks so much!! He has decided to hold off on his book until he is at school. We have Amazon Prime so we will price them out ahead of time and then make sure the money is in his account when he is ready to purchase. We had not thought about a printer. They do have printing stations throughout campus, but if they are too much of a pain then he can run to Walmart and pick up a cheap one. I think I will set up a small container of basic office supplies from here at home. We have tons of paper clips and post its and such. That way he has some if needed. He says he has most of his school supplies already, left over from me over shopping during his high school career. He loves mechanical pencils so he said he may want a few new ones of those. Thanks again for all the advice. when I was taking college classes. I got a good sized canvas pencil bag that goes in a three ring binder. I put in a mini stapler, a few paper clips, binder clips, rubber bands, a six inch ruler, mini scissors and other small office things. Kept it all together and wasn't too much. Most of it wasn't used often to be honest. But I liked having it when I did need it. Otherwise all I used was a packet of notebook paper, some one subject sprial notebooks for note taking. Most of my homework was turned in online as a digital file. I didn't even print that many papers to turn in.
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Post by idahopea on Jul 14, 2016 15:32:47 GMT
One of my kids used liquid detergent. We bought the tiniest bottle of detergent we could find AND a costco size one. He refilled the little one as needed. He was far from home with no car and liked knowing he had enough for the whole year when we dropped him off. Dd uses pods.
Chase bank has a student bank account that doesn't have a minimum balance requirement and no fees for 5 years. We had such good service with the student account that we switched our accounts to Chase when we moved. I had my name on the account with my student so I could add money if needed and we set up an alert so we would both get an email if the account went below a certain amount. You can set it up so the student cannot overdraft to prevent those fees as well. You want to be sure there are ATMs and banks near your student's school though.
If you have a kid far from home, here are a few tips we learned: 1)Your child can rent a U-haul at age 18, but not a car. This is very helpful at the end of the year when they need to move out of the dorm. Your child should try to get some other friends to share the cost of renting said U-haul for a few hours to move their stuff to a ...
2)Rented storage unit. Do not kill yourself moving everything back home for the summer. Rental units, especially small ones that dorm stuff fits in, are not very expensive. College towns do sometimes run out of them though so your student should reserve one in March or April. Once your student knows people well, they may find it cheaper to have 2 or 3 friends share a larger unit but use care because any of the students will have a key and can empty the unit.
3)Cardboard boxes work well for storage rather than too many plastic containers or suitcases. Boxes can be flattened in the dorm, reused from year to year, and put back together for summer storage.
4)Suitcases that can be flattened such as a rolling duffle take less space in the dorm than other kinds.
5)Make sure your student has enough money in his/her bank account when travelling back and forth to pay for a hotel room in case of a problem. My son got stuck in a snowstorm and couldn't get back to campus after his plane landed.
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Post by idahopea on Jul 14, 2016 15:36:54 GMT
Regarding books, have your student go to class before buying any textbooks. My kids have found that many of the books are optional and not really needed or only used for 1 chapter. Maybe they can share a book with a classmate or 2 if it's only used a little.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 15:46:38 GMT
My daughter ended up renting 90% of her books from Amazon and it worked out really well. She spent a lot of time researching purchased/rental costs across a broad variety of sources and this option turned out to be the best over all. Once she was established, she also found upperclassmen in her major that often had used books that they simply gave her. Making connections is always a good thing!
We took the "less is more" approach to supplies of every variety. And she still came home at the end of her first semester saying she didn't need 90% of what she took to school. Each subsequent semester she took less. In our case, she was 90 minutes away so getting things to her was not difficult and we of course had Amazon to ship things 2 days or even next day if needed (which I think we did one time in 4 years).
The only thing we found that we went a little overboard and it was the right thing to do? An OTC "medicine cabinet" tub. We took a large plastic tub (with lid) and filled with pretty much anything and everything one might need from a drug store. Pain meds, cold meds, bandaids, cold/hot packs, Benadryl, non-drowsy antihistamines (Claritin, etc.), Immodium, stool softener, Tums, Gas-X, etc. We would go through it at the end of school year to get rid of anything that was outdated.
She not only found it helpful for herself but many of her friends hadn't thought about it at all and found themselves in need of something late at night when everything was closed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 15:49:13 GMT
Renting books is NOT NOT NOT cheaper!!!! You pay a lot for them and you get ZERO back. My one DD (the business major!) bought all her books used from Amazon. Paid less than $200 for all and then could resell. The other DD rented and paid well over $400 and lost it all. My girls have been doing their laundry since they were 8yo. They still suck. The pods worked best for them. The biggest and best school supply for them was the printer. Not expensive and so very useful. I never thought of it, but even though they each got a certain amount of pages, it was just useful to have that available to them. I think it depends on the school, but printing can be plentiful or scarce. And while I think sometimes "the printer is broken/jammed/out of toner/occupied" may be a stall technique, it does happen. Having a printer in your room can really be convenient if your school's print stations and allowance are scarce or not in good repair. I think it also depends on your major. My daughter's social work major required few books that were only available at extreme prices like you see in say math or science or engineering majors. She also took into consideration whether the book was something she would refer back to very much after leaving school. There are a handful of books that she knows (mostly from mentors in her field) that she will use going forward so she purchased those instead of renting. We also found that a lot of time, the books didn't get used! The first year she must have had about 3 books that they never cracked more than once or twice. Total waste.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 15:53:54 GMT
Thanks so much!! He has decided to hold off on his book until he is at school. We have Amazon Prime so we will price them out ahead of time and then make sure the money is in his account when he is ready to purchase. We had not thought about a printer. They do have printing stations throughout campus, but if they are too much of a pain then he can run to Walmart and pick up a cheap one. I think I will set up a small container of basic office supplies from here at home. We have tons of paper clips and post its and such. That way he has some if needed. He says he has most of his school supplies already, left over from me over shopping during his high school career. He loves mechanical pencils so he said he may want a few new ones of those. Thanks again for all the advice. It depends on the school of course, but my daughter never needed a printer. The school printing options along with most of her work being submitted electronically in some manner meant printing was rarely needed beyond printing out articles for reading for research. Since she did a lot of that work in the library, the printers were right there so easy to manage.
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