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Post by anonrefugee on Jul 14, 2016 15:59:01 GMT
Thanks everyone for book comments. It seems biggest mystery to me. It was so easy back in the day- go to campus bookstore with list, decide new or used, hand them title to your car to pay. And thanks for printer comment voltagain. Most of DS high school assignments were submitted electronically. He can handle that.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 14, 2016 16:02:30 GMT
Four years of high school will show you what they need regarding school supplies. Did they use flash cards, highlighters, post it notes? Whatever they used in HS to maximize their learning and organization should be used in college HS and college supplies are night and day. I think all4fun meant that whatever/however they studied etc would probably carry over. I don't think the supplies are night and day at all. I used to take my nieces back to college school supply shopping and they bought many of the same items they used in HS.
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Post by all4fun on Jul 14, 2016 16:30:59 GMT
HS and college supplies are night and day. I think all4fun meant that whatever/however they studied etc would probably carry over. I don't think the supplies are night and day at all. I used to take my nieces back to college school supply shopping and they bought many of the same items they used in HS. Thank you very much, that is exactly what I meant! However, I wasn't going to argue it.
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Post by christine58 on Jul 14, 2016 16:42:17 GMT
I think all4fun meant that whatever/however they studied etc would probably carry over. I don't think the supplies are night and day at all. I used to take my nieces back to college school supply shopping and they bought many of the same items they used in HS. Thank you very much, that is exactly what I meant! However, I wasn't going to argue it. LOL Well I am in an arguing mood today!! Besides...supplies are supplies are supplies.
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Post by lynnek on Jul 14, 2016 19:12:38 GMT
Totally different question for you experienced folks. My son is not at all the picture of neat and organized. He got a very nice planner for graduation that, honestly, I am not sure he will use. He would be much more apt to use an app that maybe even has a voice function so he can just say, "test in Calc on Tues" and it pops it into the calendar. Does anyone have any suggestion for that type of an app or something that worked well for your student?
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Post by tmarschall on Jul 15, 2016 2:22:07 GMT
I think it depends on the school, but printing can be plentiful or scarce. And while I think sometimes "the printer is broken/jammed/out of toner/occupied" may be a stall technique, it does happen. Having a printer in your room can really be convenient if your school's print stations and allowance are scarce or not in good repair. I think it also depends on your major. My daughter's social work major required few books that were only available at extreme prices like you see in say math or science or engineering majors. She also took into consideration whether the book was something she would refer back to very much after leaving school. There are a handful of books that she knows (mostly from mentors in her field) that she will use going forward so she purchased those instead of renting. We also found that a lot of time, the books didn't get used! The first year she must have had about 3 books that they never cracked more than once or twice. Total waste. Books are expensive. As a social work professorI consciously try to choose the most economical text that is also accessible, effective and well-structured, although I know not all faculty pay attention to retail book costs. I also try to put copies on reserve or make copies of readings for students if we won't be using the whole book, to save them from having to purchase a book for a couple chapters. I also strongly encourage using your university's interlibrary loan program. Some won't request textbooks used for a current class, but many will, especially supplemental texts. I choose carefully because I wouldn't appreciate spending money unnecessarily. I know there are exceptions and some faculty don't make the same considerations that I do. However it does irritate me when students say "we never used the book" when the point is they were expected to read it. I often don't lecture from the textbook. I cover theory and concepts in the context of discussion, seminar, small group activities and practice. I choose to use the class time together doing things one cannot do on their own. Reading the text is expected, and is a solitary activity. It's part of preparation and it both supports and extends student learning. So when students gripe about not using the book because I don't lecture or test on that specific content it frustrates me because it's not that I or We didn't use the book. It's that the student didn't use it, as assigned. Forgive the hijack...it's an issue I feel strongly about. I can understand not being particularly interested in reading in some classes, but this is for their major. It's important information they will need when they have the responsibility of helping vulnerable people in what is sometimes the lowest point of their lives. I don't understand not wanting to absorb all I could. Also, please know I'm not suggesting your (Wingnut) child is slacking about reading. I have no idea what her circumstances are. And I agree some books are fine e to sell or pass on, but others may be important additions as she builds her professional library.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 2:45:45 GMT
I think it also depends on your major. My daughter's social work major required few books that were only available at extreme prices like you see in say math or science or engineering majors. She also took into consideration whether the book was something she would refer back to very much after leaving school. There are a handful of books that she knows (mostly from mentors in her field) that she will use going forward so she purchased those instead of renting. We also found that a lot of time, the books didn't get used! The first year she must have had about 3 books that they never cracked more than once or twice. Total waste. Books are expensive. As a social work professorI consciously try to choose the most economical text that is also accessible, effective and well-structured, although I know not all faculty pay attention to retail book costs. I also try to put copies on reserve or make copies of readings for students if we won't be using the whole book, to save them from having to purchase a book for a couple chapters. I also strongly encourage using your university's interlibrary loan program. Some won't request textbooks used for a current class, but many will, especially supplemental texts. I choose carefully because I wouldn't appreciate spending money unnecessarily. I know there are exceptions and some faculty don't make the same considerations that I do. However it does irritate me when students say "we never used the book" when the point is they were expected to read it. I often don't lecture from the textbook. I cover theory and concepts in the context of discussion, seminar, small group activities and practice. I choose to use the class time together doing things one cannot do on their own. Reading the text is expected, and is a solitary activity. It's part of preparation and it both supports and extends student learning. So when students gripe about not using the book because I don't lecture or test on that specific content it frustrates me because it's not that I or We didn't use the book. It's that the student didn't use it, as assigned. Forgive the hijack...it's an issue I feel strongly about. I can understand not being particularly interested in reading in some classes, but this is for their major. It's important information they will need when they have the responsibility of helping vulnerable people in what is sometimes the lowest point of their lives. I don't understand not wanting to absorb all I could. Also, please know I'm not suggesting your (Wingnut) child is slacking about reading. I have no idea what her circumstances are. And I agree some books are fine e to sell or pass on, but others may be important additions as she builds her professional library. The books not used were actually for her original major. And it was not an issue of not reading something because she couldn't be bothered or it was not assigned per se but expected to be read. It simply was not used at all nor needed. My daughter is a bit of a super student. She has taken her education very seriously from as early as elementary school. She has been well respected by many of her professors for her work ethic in their class. So much so that she was invited to attend various professional events as their guests. Already in just her 2nd week of graduate school she's had a professor remind her that eating and sleeping were okay, teasing how they keep finding her in a study room when not in a class. LOL. if a book is meant to be read for a class you can bet your last dollar she read it, made copious notes and used the information wherever possible. Sometimes professors are not as diligent about these things as you strive to be. It takes all kinds, right ? 😄
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Post by tmarschall on Jul 15, 2016 2:55:28 GMT
Books are expensive. As a social work professorI consciously try to choose the most economical text that is also accessible, effective and well-structured, although I know not all faculty pay attention to retail book costs. I also try to put copies on reserve or make copies of readings for students if we won't be using the whole book, to save them from having to purchase a book for a couple chapters. I also strongly encourage using your university's interlibrary loan program. Some won't request textbooks used for a current class, but many will, especially supplemental texts. I choose carefully because I wouldn't appreciate spending money unnecessarily. I know there are exceptions and some faculty don't make the same considerations that I do. However it does irritate me when students say "we never used the book" when the point is they were expected to read it. I often don't lecture from the textbook. I cover theory and concepts in the context of discussion, seminar, small group activities and practice. I choose to use the class time together doing things one cannot do on their own. Reading the text is expected, and is a solitary activity. It's part of preparation and it both supports and extends student learning. So when students gripe about not using the book because I don't lecture or test on that specific content it frustrates me because it's not that I or We didn't use the book. It's that the student didn't use it, as assigned. Forgive the hijack...it's an issue I feel strongly about. I can understand not being particularly interested in reading in some classes, but this is for their major. It's important information they will need when they have the responsibility of helping vulnerable people in what is sometimes the lowest point of their lives. I don't understand not wanting to absorb all I could. Also, please know I'm not suggesting your (Wingnut) child is slacking about reading. I have no idea what her circumstances are. And I agree some books are fine e to sell or pass on, but others may be important additions as she builds her professional library. The books not used were actually for her original major. And it was not an issue of not reading something because she couldn't be bothered or it was not assigned per sale but expected to be read. It simply was not used at all nor needed. My daughter is a bit of a super student. She has taken her education very seriously from as early as elementary school. She has been well respected by many of her professors for her work ethic in their class. So much so that she was invited to attend various professional events as their guests. Already in just her 2nd week of graduate school she's had a professor remind her that eating and sleeping were okay, teasing how they keep finding her in a study room when not in a class. LOL. if a book is meant to be read for a class you can bet your last dollar she read it, made copious notes and used the information wherever possible. Sometimes professors are not as diligent about these things as you strive to be. It takes all kinds, right ? 😄 I'm glad you heard me say I wasn't suggesting she didn't read if required. But I do hear it from my students sometimes. I pick their brains for ideas to promote reading other than pop quizzes and preparation papers. I just don't understand when students aren't fired up like your daughter, about content in their major. I really don't think it's that they aren't a good fit for social work. I would never just write it off as lazy...I'm sure there are some, but I really have great, dedicated, passionate students. Why won't they read?? It does indeed take all kinds. When I hear issues students have both here and at achool, I'm shocked...no syllabus?? No rubric or grading criteria? No grading scale or policies? I've been at this a while (15yrs), and there was a learning curve in the beginning, but that doesn't excuse the unacceptable behaviors I've heard about. We are here to support a student's success...not to trip them up or frustrate them needlessly.
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Jul 15, 2016 16:05:53 GMT
Totally different question for you experienced folks. My son is not at all the picture of neat and organized. He got a very nice planner for graduation that, honestly, I am not sure he will use. He would be much more apt to use an app that maybe even has a voice function so he can just say, "test in Calc on Tues" and it pops it into the calendar. Does anyone have any suggestion for that type of an app or something that worked well for your student?DS and I were just talking about this, what would work better a paper planner or electronic. He was looking at some, but is thinking with just using a google calendar, but if anyone has a better idea I am sure he would look into it. He wants something he can access acros multiple devices.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 18:12:15 GMT
Totally different question for you experienced folks. My son is not at all the picture of neat and organized. He got a very nice planner for graduation that, honestly, I am not sure he will use. He would be much more apt to use an app that maybe even has a voice function so he can just say, "test in Calc on Tues" and it pops it into the calendar. Does anyone have any suggestion for that type of an app or something that worked well for your student?DS and I were just talking about this, what would work better a paper planner or electronic. He was looking at some, but is thinking with just using a google calendar, but if anyone has a better idea I am sure he would look into it. He wants something he can access acros multiple devices. The one he will USE is the best. If he is not accustomed to using a paper planner it probably won't be used. What does he use now for high school? (I have no advice on a good app)
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 15, 2016 19:07:26 GMT
Totally different question for you experienced folks. My son is not at all the picture of neat and organized. He got a very nice planner for graduation that, honestly, I am not sure he will use. He would be much more apt to use an app that maybe even has a voice function so he can just say, "test in Calc on Tues" and it pops it into the calendar. Does anyone have any suggestion for that type of an app or something that worked well for your student? My DS is a sophomore and is a techy guy to the end. But he ended up buying a dry erase/white board calendar to use at school. It's propped up on one end of his desk against the wall (too lazy to actually hang it!) and he said it was really helpful to keep track of big projects and to see at a glance what was coming up for the week. He never used anything like that at home, but when a friend (who will be a freshman in the fall) asked what he needed for college, this is the first thing DS suggested.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 15, 2016 19:24:17 GMT
He plans to use pods just because it's easier. I'm going to let him figure out books but did let him know there is not an unlimited supply of used/rental books for saving money, so don't wait until the last minute (which he will!). I'm going to let him know what others have said here about ebooks though. And like Linda said, if he doesn't like ebooks, he can change it next semester. It's his decision to make. For school supplies anything forgotten or needed he can get at the bookstore on campus. I'm taking him shopping before we leave and he can pick out what he needs, rather than letting him just figure it all out once there. He's going out of state and also won't have his car (CA kid moving to state with ice & snow). Thank goodness for Amazon Prime and Pantry though for later! I can't believe we only have a little over 4 weeks now. One of those weeks we are on vacation, so only 3.5 weeks left! I'm a planner so it's really hard for me to sit on my hands and not prepare. I am though because he has to figure it out himself! My DS did this as well. We live in Virginia, but he goes to school in Minnesota. Your DS will need a decent rain jacket with a hood, as well as a small lightweight umbrella to keep in his backpack. In colder climates, it's makes a really long class period if he's wet and it's cold. If it's really raining, he can keep his backpack dry with the umbrella. I'll admit, I was surprised when DS asked for his rain jacket, as he's normally of the opinion that you won't melt. But when it's 40 degrees and raining for a week straight, I guess it matters. In addition to a decent winter jacket and gloves, we got DS both some good (Merrell) waterproof shoes and waterproof hiking boots. He goes between the north and south campuses and they are a few blocks apart. But water proof shoes help in the rain or light snow, and the boots really came in handy on the days when it was actually snowing or he was walking around town. The boots are good for another season, but he actually wore out his shoes with all the walking he did. As of yet, he hasn't done anything to replace supplies before he goes back, but he's had those new shoes for a few weeks now. He also had one of those hooks that normally goes over a door to hang jackets or towels from. He hung it over the end of his (lofted) bed and it worked well to dry out his jacket, rather than putting it in the closet and getting the other clothes wet. Other than that, we set him up with pretty much everything he needed to get him through to Christmas. And Amazon is wonderful--you can even set them up with an Amazon Allowance directly through your Amazon account, although we just transferred money directly into his checking account. That way, he had a semester to figure out how and where to buy things and how to get it back to his dorm. He doesn't have a car at school and the university is in a neighborhood with very little shopping nearby. But by Christmas, he had learned the bus that goes to Target and to buy a few things at a time so that he wasn't lugging home a boatload of stuff in one trip. DS has his own CC, but the ability for us to transfer money immediately and directly into his bank accounts was really good and we did that several times. He bought the winter jacket in January on clearance, but didn't have enough money in his checking account. He called me from the store and I transferred the money right then. We also did that with the pharmacy when he was sick, although I ended up needing to call the pharm about insurance info, so I paid for it when I called, as I added some things like kleenex and cough drops to the list. Which reminds me, find out about medical care and transportation. That was a big one for us, as we have family in MN, but they were all in Florida on vacation when DS was sick and then started coughing up blood. The clinic on campus was great--found him a pharmacy that delivers, gave his a card with the best ER and the numbers for both a taxi service and Uber. I'd thought to have things set up with the clinic before hand, but didn't even think of pharms that delivers or how he would get to the ER if needed.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 15, 2016 19:29:25 GMT
I think I will set up a small container of basic office supplies from here at home. We have tons of paper clips and post its and such. That way he has some if needed. He says he has most of his school supplies already, left over from me over shopping during his high school career. He loves mechanical pencils so he said he may want a few new ones of those. Thanks again for all the advice. This is what we did. I bought a medium sized fabric covered storage cube with a lid (from Target). In it I put an organizer with paper clips, binder clips, rubber bands, etc. I also added Post It notes, Sharpies, pens, highlighters, pencils, index cards, stapler, scissors, tape, etc. That way it was all in one spot and he didn't need to find a place to keep all of that stuff. And I didn't go overboard buying, as it all had to fit in the box. There were two long shelves in his room for books and such and he used it as a bookend. DS is an engineering major and brought his tool kit from home. He never used it for class, as he had an overview class and then a digital electronics class this year, but did use it many times in the year. He just brought his Dollar Store tools so that if they were borrowed and not returned, it wasn't a big loss. But his screwdriver, pliers, duct tape and hammer were borrowed many times and DS used the glue, nails and hammer in the first hour of moving in to repair a drawer in his dresser. You can buy small rolls of duct tape without the big round center in the camping section at Walmart (takes up much less room.)
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Post by smalltowngirlie on Jul 15, 2016 20:08:35 GMT
DS and I were just talking about this, what would work better a paper planner or electronic. He was looking at some, but is thinking with just using a google calendar, but if anyone has a better idea I am sure he would look into it. He wants something he can access acros multiple devices. The one he will USE is the best. If he is not accustomed to using a paper planner it probably won't be used. What does he use now for high school? (I have no advice on a good app) In high school he used a paper planner a bit but said he did not like that. He has said time management is not his best quality so he has asked us for ideas to help him start off organized. I know what I would use and have been trying to just talk things through with him, letting him research and make the decision. It is becoming more real to him as we start getting things gathered for school. We were looking at bedding yesterday and there was really nothing he liked so we discussed other options. He may just take his comforter from home, he really likes it, and just use a different blanket for the little bit he will be home. I said take what you like with you because that is where you will be sleeping the most. It will also save him some money. Thanks again everyone. All the advice on here helps to calm me a bit. As someone else said, I am a planner and stepping back is never easy for me and the closer it is to him leaving the harder it is getting, but I am doing my best.
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Post by likescarrots on Jul 15, 2016 20:25:23 GMT
Technically i wasn't in college, but when i lived in an apartment and did my laundry at the laundromat i would keep a big thing of liquid soap (my husband has allergies from powder) at home, and i would pour enough for my trip in a small water bottle to take with me so i didn't have to haul it all.
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Post by meridon on Jul 15, 2016 20:45:25 GMT
I would tell you to go drink an adult beverage and let your now young adult student handle making all these decisions. None of them are irrevocable. If one choice turns out not to be the right one, then go to plan B. These are all pretty low stakes and seem to be taking up way more of your mental energy that they are worth. Now decorating the dorm room, that's worth stressing over, for me!
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Post by Sandie on Jul 16, 2016 0:30:06 GMT
IF no one has mentioned it yet, here is a good place to rent books. They have a strict timeline for return, so he would need to be on his game with getting them back in time Chegg Book Rental
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