basketdiva
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Post by basketdiva on Jul 13, 2016 23:14:39 GMT
God, I wish people who say the First Amendment protects something like this would actually *read* the First Amendment.  |
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Post by Belia on Jul 13, 2016 23:17:36 GMT
Not appropriate for work.
And I kinda want a pair!!!!!!!
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my3freaks
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Post by my3freaks on Jul 13, 2016 23:28:08 GMT
I'd say they're against policy. I wouldn't be personally "offended" by them because I think she's most likely looking for attention and going for shock value, not specifically saying fuck off to me. I'd definitely think negatively about her for making the choice to wear them in an a professional environment (well, TBH, for making the choice to wear them at all, it's pretty obnoxious). It would make me doubt her judgement, that's for sure. I'd have a hard time taking her seriously, and giving business to someone who is that immature also. Really, that kind of "look at me" statement is embarrassing for her, and the company she's representing. I have a pretty short tolerance for people being offended by everything they don't like, and trying to force their beliefs/opinions on everyone else, but those are just in poor taste, period.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 23:55:50 GMT
Seriously? Someone in sales and marketing wears that to events? Very poor judgement on her part. Completely unprofessional.
If I was dealing with a salesperson and noticed those earrings, I'd first be complaining about the inappropriateness with her manager. Who obviously thinks it's okay. After which, they'd have to find another customer.
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 14, 2016 0:01:32 GMT
I believe today is the first day they were worn.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 0:14:31 GMT
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SweetieBsMom
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 14, 2016 0:41:42 GMT
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Post by txdancermom on Jul 14, 2016 0:51:20 GMT
Not acceptable in the workplace. Offensive
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Post by kellybelly77 on Jul 14, 2016 1:00:12 GMT
I don't find them offensive, seriously, it takes a lot to offend me. But they clearly violate the dress code. And even though I am not offended by them, I would never in a million years wear them to work.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 14, 2016 1:14:29 GMT
So you aren't allowed to tell people they are Number One?
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Post by littlemama on Jul 14, 2016 1:17:37 GMT
Against policy -#3 and #4 at the very least.
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Post by jemmls4 on Jul 14, 2016 1:17:52 GMT
No, those are not appropriate in the work place.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jul 14, 2016 1:22:17 GMT
They are definitely against the policy as it is written.
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Kerri W
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Post by Kerri W on Jul 14, 2016 1:40:14 GMT
kimpossible I have all kinds of questions! how old is the employee? does she generally have a bad attitude about work or do these "fit" her personality? is she a new hire? Is your office a professional environment normally? We need the story...we're peas! And I'm not questioning any of the above with the idea that they excuse the earring choice in any way. Merely curious who would think this is ok in a professional environment.
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cindosha
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Post by cindosha on Jul 14, 2016 1:40:39 GMT
I am sick to death of people thinking something like that is ok based on "principle". Thinking it's ok just to literally give everyone at work and whoever you come in contact with a big FUCK YOU!!!
cindy
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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 14, 2016 1:51:55 GMT
I agree with Kerri W, I would like to know more about the person wearing them so I can try to understand what sort of person thinks they're even remotely acceptable to wear in a professional setting and in front of customers. If I were a customer and a salesperson turned up wearing those, I really would have to question their professionalism and judgement. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 1:57:35 GMT
Not acceptable.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jul 14, 2016 3:53:21 GMT
I'm pretty hard to offend, but I would say they are absolutely inappropriate for any work situation regardless of what's in the dress code. You never know who you might encounter on a daily basis at work, and I believe many people would find that very offensive.
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 14, 2016 15:08:27 GMT
kimpossible I have all kinds of questions! how old is the employee? does she generally have a bad attitude about work or do these "fit" her personality? is she a new hire? Is your office a professional environment normally? We need the story...we're peas! And I'm not questioning any of the above with the idea that they excuse the earring choice in any way. Merely curious who would think this is ok in a professional environment. - since you asked! First of all...while there is a background to this employee, its her manager that is also a thorn in my side. how old is the employee? late 30's, mom of one special needs kid, married for over 15 years does she generally have a bad attitude about work or do these "fit" her personality? she is a gossiper and in the last 2 months has become very disgruntled as she didn't get moved into a position she really wanted - her attitude is what made management decide against the move is she a new hire? she has been with us under 6 months Is your office a professional environment normally? yes, business dress and business casual on Fridays. A new employee was hired into her department about 6 weeks ago and likes to ask lots of questions, from what I have since been advised, she is irked having to answer all of his questions because (in her opinion) he should already know everything, otherwise why would the company hire him? She is not being a team player because she's irked at not getting position she wanted. We believe that the earrings were a "FU" to the employee that keeps asking her questions. |
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Post by Really Red on Jul 14, 2016 15:44:02 GMT
kimpossible I have all kinds of questions! how old is the employee? does she generally have a bad attitude about work or do these "fit" her personality? is she a new hire? Is your office a professional environment normally? We need the story...we're peas! And I'm not questioning any of the above with the idea that they excuse the earring choice in any way. Merely curious who would think this is ok in a professional environment. - since you asked! First of all...while there is a background to this employee, its her manager that is also a thorn in my side. how old is the employee? late 30's, mom of one special needs kid, married for over 15 years does she generally have a bad attitude about work or do these "fit" her personality? she is a gossiper and in the last 2 months has become very disgruntled as she didn't get moved into a position she really wanted - her attitude is what made management decide against the move is she a new hire? she has been with us under 6 months Is your office a professional environment normally? yes, business dress and business casual on Fridays. A new employee was hired into her department about 6 weeks ago and likes to ask lots of questions, from what I have since been advised, she is irked having to answer all of his questions because (in her opinion) he should already know everything, otherwise why would the company hire him? She is not being a team player because she's irked at not getting position she wanted. We believe that the earrings were a "FU" to the employee that keeps asking her questions. Thank you for all these answers!! I can't believe that after 4 months of working in your company, she felt she could be moved into a different position. I don't know what she's doing, but in my company you have to be minimum 18mos or possible 24 months before even posting for a new job. And I hate bad attitudes. Leave them at home. I'd rather have an employee with a good attitude who needs help than a bad one who doesn't. Inquiring minds want to know: Did you go over her manager's head? |
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Post by purplebee on Jul 14, 2016 15:51:31 GMT
Another vote for not appropriate. With the back story, even moreso. Would the company allow a similarly printed t shirt to be worn? Of course not. She is looking for attention.
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Post by kimpossible on Jul 14, 2016 16:04:44 GMT
Yes, there is a minimum 6 months in a position in order to be considered for an internal transfer or change of position. We sent her home early yesterday to "remove" the offending dress code violation. Actually she could have just taken them off, but sending her home was more of a message. She chose to not show up today - called in to her manager and said she was sick.  |
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Post by scrapnnana on Jul 14, 2016 16:42:20 GMT
I consider it was very unprofessional and inappropriate for an employee to wear earrings like that.
I think she deserved to be sent home. The fact that she called in sick today, too, especially after the other things you told us about her, tells me she has major attitude issues that could soon lead to her being fired if she doesn't shape up. Just my opinion.
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Post by Kerri W on Jul 14, 2016 16:45:43 GMT
Yes, there is a minimum 6 months in a position in order to be considered for an internal transfer or change of position. We sent her home early yesterday to "remove" the offending dress code violation. Actually she could have just taken them off, but sending her home was more of a message. She chose to not show up today - called in to her manager and said she was sick. Well. This just gets more juicy by the day...you'll have to keep us updated. Thanks for answering my questions. There are days I'm glad I work a) mostly by myself and b) with guys. I can deal with them acting like 12 yo boys better than I can deal with girl attitude. SaveSave |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 16:55:31 GMT
with that attitude, I would make the case for her being terminated. Especially since she is such a new employee. Honestly I have found that behavior and conduct only gets worse as they get more comfortable in the environment especially if they are allowed to get away with such behavior!
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Peamac
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Post by Peamac on Jul 14, 2016 17:01:56 GMT
Can you believe that once the employee's manager was approached and advised to talk to the employee about the earrings not being appropriate - the manager stood up for the employee and said that they are not offensive and she has 1st amendment rights. Giving someone the middle finger is the same as swearing. If she's not supposed to use that kind of language in dealing with coworkers/clients/potential customers, she shouldn't be wearing those earrings. That is not representing the company well, and i wouldn't be interested in doing business with a company who approves of it. |
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Jul 14, 2016 17:25:30 GMT
First, any reasonable person would know that in a professional work environment, those would be a violation of dress code. I would say based on the code you posted, #3 and #4 would be the violated codes. However, the way I read them, someone would need to have complained. If no one said anything, then did she really violate them?
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scrapbug
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Post by scrapbug on Jul 14, 2016 17:32:37 GMT
Against policy. And completely tactless.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 17:49:11 GMT
I have to say that with your update, I would vote for termination. She's probably on probation as a new hire, has a bad attitude, wears FU earrings to a sales meeting, has obvious poor judgement, and calls in sick after being called out on it.
Time for the company to either have a "come to Jesus" talk, or just get rid of her before you're stuck with her permanently.
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Post by quiltz on Jul 14, 2016 17:58:53 GMT
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