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Post by mellyw on Jul 15, 2016 20:21:00 GMT
Tried to find a link, watching it live on CNN. I'm not terribly surprised, but our world feels topsy turvy right now.
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Post by mellyw on Jul 15, 2016 20:25:15 GMT
My I- Pad is acting up and I can't link, but it's on the BBC homepage
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Post by peabay on Jul 15, 2016 20:25:45 GMT
My daughter's best friend is here as a student from Ankara. Her family is all still there. 😢😢I'm worried for them.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 15, 2016 20:29:52 GMT
It is starting to pop up on twitter as well.
Wonder who is behind it?
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Post by mellyw on Jul 15, 2016 20:37:21 GMT
My daughter's best friend is here as a student from Ankara. Her family is all still there. 😢😢I'm worried for them. Oh, how scary Peabay, that poor girl. We have some friends stationed there, but they are fairly safe on U.S installations.
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Post by MizIndependent on Jul 15, 2016 20:41:20 GMT
Live Updates: RedditLive[/quote] BBC: "Turkey soldiers launch 'illegal action' - PM Yildirim"Turkey's PM has denounced an "illegal action" by a military "group", with bridges closed in Istanbul and aircraft flying low over the capital, Ankara. Binali Yildirim said the military action was not authorised but it was not a coup. He said that the government remained in charge. Traffic has been stopped from crossing both the Bosphorus and Fatih Sultan Mehmet bridges in Istanbul. There are reports of gunshots in the capital Ankara. Tanks are also said to be stationed outside Istanbul airport. Mr Yildirim told NTV television by telephone: "We are working on the possibility of an attempt. We will not allow this attempt." He did not elaborate. "Those who are in this illegal act will pay the highest price," he added, saying it would not be correct to describe the move as a "coup".
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Post by mellyw on Jul 15, 2016 20:44:14 GMT
The Turkish military is reporting it's in control.
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Post by MizIndependent on Jul 15, 2016 20:48:02 GMT
#Turkeypolitical leadership has been "detained," military forces say, as all flights from#IstanbulAtaturk Airport are cancelled.#Ankara — Michael Wilner (@mawilner)July 15, 2016 RedditLive
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Post by oaksong on Jul 15, 2016 20:49:20 GMT
Oh my gosh! How frightening. Another country with the radical Islam element that is trying to drag them back into the dark ages. We have military bases there. They are a modern democratic nation, not some dictatorship that is being toppled. We cannot allow that to happen under any circumstances. I am sick at the thought of it. I hope the world understands what is at stake here. peabay , you must be worried sick. I will keep your daughter's friend's family in my thoughts. ETA: I realize that many Turks feel Erdogan needs to go, I just hope that they can do so peacefully, without creating a power vacuum that will lead to and ISIS takeover. It's a very fragile and complex situation. So scary.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 20:51:15 GMT
My daughter's best friend is here as a student from Ankara. Her family is all still there. 😢😢I'm worried for them.  I hope they're all ok. I just don't even know what to think anymore. It feels like the whole world is just going mad.
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Post by mellyw on Jul 15, 2016 21:01:19 GMT
MizIndependent- Thanks for posting links. Picked a great time to start a thread, only to have the old I-pad act up.
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Post by peabay on Jul 15, 2016 21:11:50 GMT
My daughter's best friend is here as a student from Ankara. Her family is all still there. 😢😢I'm worried for them.  I hope they're all ok. I just don't even know what to think anymore. It feels like the whole world is just going mad. Thanks. Me too. It really does feel that way. 
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 15, 2016 21:21:34 GMT
I had it on CNN until about 15 min ago. This is some scary ****!
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Post by mellyw on Jul 15, 2016 21:28:51 GMT
As I stated in my OP, I'm not terribly surprised. Been a lot of instability in Turkey with Syria & Iraq, & after the attack at the airport there, I suspected the military would move. This isn't the first time it's happened.
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 15, 2016 21:35:37 GMT
But...from what it sounds like, this may not be a bad thing? That the military is more secular than the government and that they see themselves as kind of the keeper of democracy. I heard that they (and others) are feeling that President Erdogan is drifting more towards a more radical view of Islam and that they want to insure that Turkey continues to main its Democratic status.
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Post by iteach3rdgrade on Jul 15, 2016 21:39:18 GMT
But...from what it sounds like, this may not be a bad thing? That the military is more secular than the government and that they see themselves as kind of the keeper of democracy. I heard that they (and others) are feeling that President Erdogan is drifting more towards a more radical view of Islam and that they want to insure that Turkey continues to main its Democratic status. I read something that seemed like that.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 15, 2016 21:48:27 GMT
Did I hear something about concerns involving the united nations? (or NATO?)
It was during an interview with one of the contributers but I can't remember specifically. Heard it on my way through the house.
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Post by mellyw on Jul 15, 2016 21:59:20 GMT
But...from what it sounds like, this may not be a bad thing? That the military is more secular than the government and that they see themselves as kind of the keeper of democracy. I heard that they (and others) are feeling that President Erdogan is drifting more towards a more radical view of Islam and that they want to insure that Turkey continues to main its Democratic status. That's part of why I'm not surprised. The Turkish military has acted before to defend democracy there, not un-like the Pakistani military. The concern is always, will the military cede control? And how are the citizens feeling about an elected Government falling? Between the Erdogan government getting more hardline & not handling terrorist threats well, the writing may have been on the wall. I just feel for the ordinary citizen going thru this.
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Post by mellyw on Jul 15, 2016 22:01:50 GMT
Did I hear something about concerns involving the united nations? (or NATO?)
It was during an interview with one of the contributers but I can't remember specifically. Heard it on my way through the house. Turkey is a member of NATO & a key ally for the U.S. We fly a lot of missions from not only our 2 bases there, but also Turkish bases.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 15, 2016 22:07:28 GMT
Did I hear something about concerns involving the united nations? (or NATO?)
It was during an interview with one of the contributers but I can't remember specifically. Heard it on my way through the house. Turkey is a member of NATO & a key ally for the U.S. We fly a lot of missions from not only our 2 bases there, but also Turkish bases. It might have been NATO. They were saying that they didn't have communication and thought there may be something going on within that location. I wish I'd paid better attention now.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 15, 2016 22:12:08 GMT
CNN is feeding and you can hear shooting. Not sure if I can handle hearing that, glad I'm on the other side of the room at the moment.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 15, 2016 22:21:46 GMT
They are saying that our military and the Turkish military are on very good terms so that sounds good. Still scary ~ the word coup usually means bad things.
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 15, 2016 22:29:52 GMT
They are saying that our military and the Turkish military are on very good terms so that sounds good. Still scary ~ the word coup usually means bad things. And scary things. I hope it ends peacefully soon, and with the best leadership for Turkey (and the US) in control.
I just saw tweets that the president is urging people to go out into the streets. WTH? I'd be inside under my bed!
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Post by flute4peace on Jul 15, 2016 22:39:42 GMT
My daughter's best friend is here as a student from Ankara. Her family is all still there. 😢😢I'm worried for them. Oh this is horrible, the poor girl!! Is she in a place where she has some support? Maybe invite her to spend the night with your daughter?
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Jul 15, 2016 22:52:23 GMT
I heard the shooting too. They're saying it was outside the parliament building.
This time last night we were sitting watching the Nice attack in horror. Tonight, this. Before this news broke, DH and I were discussing how lucky we had been to be able to go on holiday in Europe in the past. We're living in turbulent times.
More shooting...
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Post by oaksong on Jul 15, 2016 23:18:51 GMT
But...from what it sounds like, this may not be a bad thing? That the military is more secular than the government and that they see themselves as kind of the keeper of democracy. I heard that they (and others) are feeling that President Erdogan is drifting more towards a more radical view of Islam and that they want to insure that Turkey continues to main its Democratic status. My gut reaction at first was that it was radical Islam stepping in, but I can see now that it may be just the opposite. You're right, maybe this coup is a good thing. Anything that destabilizes that region is so scary. Since their military is technically NATO, we can only hope for the best. It's also quite possible that NATO is behind it. It's hard to believe that the top Turkish military leaders would do this without NATO knowing ahead of time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 23:55:28 GMT
They are saying that our military and the Turkish military are on very good terms so that sounds good. Still scary ~ the word coup usually means bad things. There is a law that prevents us from helping a military involved in a coup - so even if we are on good terms, we won't send support - I believe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by KiwiJo on Jul 16, 2016 0:05:18 GMT
And yet there seem to be so many "ordinary people" taking to the streets against the coup. It is hard to know what to think just now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 0:06:08 GMT
If you guys are interested, here is the live feed of aggregated content on reddit: www.reddit.com/live/x9gf3donjlkqRight now I'm watching a link from there showing Erdogan's plane circling Turkey and now flying away.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Jul 16, 2016 0:11:32 GMT
They are saying that our military and the Turkish military are on very good terms so that sounds good. Still scary ~ the word coup usually means bad things. There is a law that prevents us from helping a military involved in a coup - so even if we are on good terms, we won't send support - I believe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Oh, I wasn't implying that we would help with the coup. I meant that if the coup is successful, it could be beneficial in the long term.
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