Kerri W
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Post by Kerri W on Aug 4, 2014 11:41:20 GMT
Police, EMT's, fire fighters, etc all work weekends. Is it typical where you are to have to wait until Monday for any test results if you're inpatient after a certain time on Friday? Yes, it's normal. Police, EMTs, etc are emergency personnel. I'm sure, like you said, if there was an emergency it wouldn't be a question of getting an echo done. The fact is it isn't an emergency and can be performed during regular business hours. Lets say my DS doesn't understand his homework and there's a huge, important test Monday. He should contact his teacher on Saturday at 11:00pm right? Of course not. Regular business hours. It's not an emergency.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 12:26:25 GMT
I know it is hard to wait, and worry. But, your mom is out of the immediate woods. A stress test and echo can wait even though waiting is hard on you. It isn't just the one specialist but a whole slew of staffing people needed to do a stress test.
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Post by myboysnme on Aug 4, 2014 12:29:23 GMT
The attending physician makes the call whether or not a specialist is needed. They are on call, but there are many reasons they come in only for emergencies. Many on call physicians have at home access to medical records and test results that they can view and decided if immediate action is needed or if it can wait. In fact at a number of facilities they are using phone systems that allow them to receive medical information and test results where ever they are. Then they decide if it is emergent.
Most hospitals try very hard not to keep people hospitalized on the weekend unless they need that level of monitoring. They normally would send you home and have you return Mon unless they needed to keep an eye on you for whatever the doctor ordered to manage your problem.
In other words, your mom's attending is monitoring her and will decide if/when other tests should be done.
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Post by Zee on Aug 4, 2014 13:01:34 GMT
It also depends on the hospital. Where I used to work they had to add on Saturday stress tests because there were so many patients waiting they couldn't wait to do them all on Mondays. Of course, that's partly because of hospitalists coming in and taking over care for Primary Care Physicians (PCPs) or cardiologists. Every single complaint of chest pain became mandatory admittance and stress test, to cover asses, rather than rule out other causes first. Talk about the high cost of Healthcare. We always had someone on call for an echo if it was after hours, for urgent problems, but an echo isn't always urgently needed.
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MerryMom
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Post by MerryMom on Aug 4, 2014 13:03:32 GMT
My husband is a retired firefighter and the weekend and holiday shifts are part of their regular work schedule.
Because those doctors are already working Monday through Friday and now you want them to work Saturday and Sunday as well?
Emergencies are covered, your family member is stable and the doctor will read the results on Monday. I hope she is feeling better.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 13:06:10 GMT
Our big hospitals (I have no idea how it is handled in small town hospitals or regional hospitals for that matter) there are a ton of doctors on call all weekend long. If the ERP needs to call someone in he/she can do so. They are on call and know they can't be out of touch other than the bathroom. That is the point of taking call rotations.
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melissa
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Post by melissa on Aug 4, 2014 13:12:15 GMT
There are plenty of people available on weekends, but it's not full service.
In your mom's situation, the most important tests are actually the blood work tests. The enzyme tests that were drawn when she was first evaluated and then repeated 24 hrs later(and possible again in 48 hrs) are the key to her actual diagnosis of a heart attack. If these other tests were vital, they would have been done already. Echos are done routinely in situations where there is a high level of concern. What this tells you is that the level of concern is not high. If they thought she had something that needed emergent treatment, tests would have been done.
Best wishes for you mom
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caro
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Post by caro on Aug 4, 2014 13:13:49 GMT
Large hospitals and trauma hospitals have specialists there on weekends and overnight. I found out the hard way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2014 13:15:59 GMT
Because even specialists need time off and a work life balance. They are humans.
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Post by formerpea on Aug 4, 2014 13:35:09 GMT
Because they are specialists. They went through extra schooling, etc. to specialize in something that others don't & now they can call the shots. Does it suck? Yes. Do they care? No. In a way I can't blame them actually. Critical care & emergency personnel are available to treat & stabilize people, which in the world of Medicine, that's really what counts.
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Post by moveablefeast on Aug 4, 2014 13:45:23 GMT
Our local hospital is very large and has certain specialists pretty much 24/7, or at least someone on call. I was seen by a cardiologist on a Saturday night, 1 am. My DH was seen by a staff rheumatologist multiple times at all hours of the day and night. And a nephrologist on a Sunday. My daughter was born on a Saturday and my OB was there all weekend.
I wonder if the difference is staff size and volume of patients - if you have enough people, you can provide more coverage without having to overtax your specialists. It may be one of te advantages of a larger hospital as compared to a smaller one.
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Post by shevy on Aug 4, 2014 13:49:50 GMT
What Melissa said. There are times when you need additional testing that needs to occur at a later date to compare results. It's also expensive to run tests while in the ED or admitted to the hosptial. If it's not an emergency, they're going to wait to save you money.
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Post by Scrapbrat on Aug 4, 2014 16:19:42 GMT
I guess I can understand certain specialists only being available in an emergency if you're in the hospital on the weekend. But I remember when I had older DS, I had him on Friday and that afternoon, a nurse came in and asked me if I wanted to meet with a lactation consultant. Since this was my first baby, I excitedly said yes. Then later the nurse came back and said the consultant was only available during the week, and it was too late that day for me to see her. Well, I was discharged on Sunday morning so I never got to see her. All worked out fine, but if you're going to offer lactation consultation services, it seems like they should be available every day of the week. Women do have babies on the weekend.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Aug 4, 2014 17:21:00 GMT
Specialists are absolutely on call 24/7/365. I've been on both sides of it - many weekends and holidays interrupted when an emergency arises and a family member is called away (he is a specialist), and being in the hospital on a Sunday (which also happened to be New Year's Day) when a specialist had to be brought into the hospital. Now obviously, routine tests wait for business hours. But emergencies - they absolutely have the specialists they need any time of day or night.
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Post by mcscrapper on Aug 5, 2014 1:10:28 GMT
Large hospitals and trauma hospitals have specialists there on weekends and overnight. I found out the hard way. This is true. While there may be a specialist available, he/she may not come in if that physician doesn't see the situation as emergent. There are also nursing staff for those specialties and they don't typically work weekends either. Echos and stress tests are not emergent procedures. EKGs and blood work is and usually done in the ER setting and not a specialty treatment. A cath is usually an emergent procedure but most often that cath lab staff is just on-call for the weekends and takes about 20-30 minutes for staff to even arrive at the hospital. Most hospitals have a trauma and/or general surgeon on call on weekends. In our case, our trauma docs will take the general calls sometimes. There are reasons to keep a patient over night tho too. It is pretty much the CYA game but can also give the patient some piece of mind that he/she is in a safer environment in case something does go badly. meredith
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Post by megop on Aug 5, 2014 1:18:46 GMT
There will more and more changes within this structure as CMS tightens rules for reimbursements of overnight care and admission status. Moving toward further ACA adjustments, tertiary hospitals will respond accordingly. It's quickly becoming not a CYA game, especially for Medicaid/Medicare as CMS tightens costs controls.
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pamp
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Post by pamp on Aug 5, 2014 1:59:21 GMT
First,I hope that your mother is feeling better and is getting some answers about her diagnosis. I can't think of a time where an echo would be used in an emergency setting.It might be included in some work-ups but there are many other more reliable diagnostics that are typically trusted.As another poster mentioned,blood work and ekgs are commonly ordered and done in series,if this was a suspected cardiac related event.
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Post by Aheartfeltcard on Aug 5, 2014 2:30:03 GMT
Yes, they take off the weekend. Very frustrating when my mother went into the hospital on Fridays every. Single, time. Her oncologist visits were on Fridays and they would admit her. It was crazy!! She wouldn't get out of the hospital until after the weekend no matter how vital or trivial her visit was. I imagine the hospital bills for these situations would be greatly reduced if the dr. Would actually work on the weekend.
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Post by ntsf on Aug 5, 2014 2:47:12 GMT
I'm sure it is all relative to the size and location of the hospital. my dh has been in a hospital many times and consulted all sorts of specialists on weekends...even pts and ots. but we were at large urban hospitals...they never close or slow down.
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