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Post by peano on Jul 19, 2016 5:03:23 GMT
Ok, just watch that singer guy sing Brown Eyed Girl about a verse and a chorus and then stop abruptly to We are the Champions and Trump. Can they use those small pieces of songs without permission? Is that why they aren't doing the whole songs? I wondered this too. Along with what would Freddie Mercury think, and does the RNC realize he was gay and died of AIDS? So far this is the most incoherent convention I've ever seen. link
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Post by Anita on Jul 19, 2016 5:05:27 GMT
I said earlier that I feel betrayed by my party. Well, you can add 'embarrassed' to that. That speech was plagiarized, no doubt. You would think that the party 'Leaders' would know better, even if Donald and Melania don't (or don't care).
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Post by Really Red on Jul 19, 2016 5:06:50 GMT
You're right freecharlie but its still disappointing that we cant be unified (even if for appearance sake). I have an awful lot of respect for the people who choose not to support Trump. He is so divisive and hates on anyone who disagrees with him. I won't get into his background and the bad things he has done, but just what he has done is this campaign alone is terrible. So Republicans who cannot stomach him impress me. They make me listen to them. They may not show a united front to other Republicans, but they are showing Democrats that there is a line that needs to be drawn and I appreciate that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 5:06:53 GMT
It also included a Rickroll....LOL....how much worse can the highlight of the night get? Yikes! Yeah, it really feels like a speechwriter who knew she was going to claim credit for it and wanted to seriously screw things up and make obvious she was lying. The Obama thing could be explained away by "inspiration" and "not being familiar with plagiarism" but a Rickroll too? No way was that anything but intentional.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 19, 2016 5:16:09 GMT
It also included a Rickroll....LOL....how much worse can the highlight of the night get? Yikes! OMG I missed that!
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 19, 2016 5:18:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 5:19:44 GMT
Honestly I feel betrayed by my party. Not everyone may agree but 99% of my friends feel the same way. I finally had to turn it off which is disappointing. I am all for unification but I can't support him. I just can't. Or Hillary. This election sucks and may be the end of the Republican party. I feel exactly the same way - betrayed by my party. I will not vote Republican, but I can't vote for Hillary either. I'm so discouraged. I do have respect for the higher profile Republicans who chose not to attend - you have to be able to look yourself in the mirror. Anita I absolutely agree! It's a hard feeling. I wish other Republicans could respect how some of us feel.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 19, 2016 5:19:59 GMT
What is a Rick roll?!
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 19, 2016 5:22:52 GMT
Her loss is tragic without a doubt but is not made worse because the person was illegal a cop. Getting this ready for you for the DNC. Unless you think that death by cop does make the parent feel worse. In which case, you might find a little empathy for the parent who feels that death by a recurrent criminal illegal makes a difference. Just sayin'. The DNC has the same kind of thing lined up.
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Post by katybee on Jul 19, 2016 5:26:01 GMT
At one point in the speech, she said that Donald Trump is never going to give up for let us down… As in never gonna give you up… Never gonna let you down… never going to tell a lie or desert you…
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 19, 2016 5:26:51 GMT
Her loss is tragic without a doubt but is not made worse because the person was illegal a cop. Getting this ready for you for the DNC. Unless you think that death by cop does make the parent feel worse. In which case, you might find a little empathy for the parent who feels that death by a recurrent criminal illegal makes a difference. Just sayin'. The DNC has the same kind of thing lined up. And I won't like it then. I'm not one who thinks what one does is okay, but the other side shouldn't. I don't judge based soley on republican or democrat. I judge based on the action, the words, the whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 5:26:59 GMT
Her loss is tragic without a doubt but is not made worse because the person was illegal a cop. Getting this ready for you for the DNC. Unless you think that death by cop does make the parent feel worse. In which case, you might find a little empathy for the parent who feels that death by a recurrent criminal illegal makes a difference. Just sayin'. The DNC has the same kind of thing lined up. Well, I don't agree that an innocent person killed by someone who is sworn to protect you is the same thing as being killed by a serial criminal. It's horrible that the system failed that family and that someone with a lengthy criminal history was free to cause their child's death. To me, that is not exacerbated or mitigated by their immigration status.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 19, 2016 5:27:15 GMT
At one point in the speech, she said that Donald Trump is never going to give up for let us down… As in never gonna give you up… Never gonna let you down… never going to tell a lie or desert you… Ah, gotcha. I even looked it up and it didn't make sense. But I haven't listened to her whole speech. Just the parts that are being highlighted now. Thanks!
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 19, 2016 5:27:58 GMT
It is a term used for when someone thinks they are clicking on something like a meme or link and it takes them to the Rick Astley video Rickroll video
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Post by leftturnonly on Jul 19, 2016 5:34:16 GMT
To me, that is not exacerbated or mitigated by their immigration status. But you aren't the parent to whom it made a difference how their child died. You're picking and choosing here.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 19, 2016 5:35:00 GMT
Seems Ted Cruz had Rickrolled on his website on April Fools Day putting a video of trump, then the song. Perhaps a Cruz supporter helped write the speech.
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Post by 5peanutsnana on Jul 19, 2016 5:36:21 GMT
Did y'all see Steven Colbert on stage earlier? He was mocking Trump then got pulled away by security. Edited: heres a link: STEVEN COLBERT That was filmed Sun.in CLE for his live show (in New York) Mon. night after the convention. He played the clip on his show and it was staged, not real.
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on Jul 19, 2016 5:41:52 GMT
I'm rooting for Scott Eastwood to come out. He can talk to anything he wants to ... or not talk at all. This bleeding heart liberal democrat couldn't agree more.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 5:42:10 GMT
To me, that is not exacerbated or mitigated by their immigration status. But you aren't the parent to whom it made a difference how their child died. You're picking and choosing here. What I originally said is that the reasons the convention chose this mother to speak were to further incite fear and hatred of illegal immigrants and I think that's disgusting. Immigration is a problem, but this is not how to solve it. Trump has is far far too cozy with openly racist hate groups and this is just one more example of courting the worst of the worst.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 19, 2016 5:45:03 GMT
My 12 year old is now singing "Never gonna give you up..."
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Post by bothmykidsrbrats on Jul 19, 2016 7:01:35 GMT
You're right freecharlie but its still disappointing that we cant be unified (even if for appearance sake). I have an awful lot of respect for the people who choose not to support Trump. He is so divisive and hates on anyone who disagrees with him. I won't get into his background and the bad things he has done, but just what he has done is this campaign alone is terrible. So Republicans who cannot stomach him impress me. They make me listen to them. They may not show a united front to other Republicans, but they are showing Democrats that there is a line that needs to be drawn and I appreciate that. I could not have said it better! Thank you. This is where we start to work together.
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Post by lucyg on Jul 19, 2016 7:17:17 GMT
It will be interesting to see how the campaign handles this. I still am not convinced that she didn't write the speech. It seems more in line with that--maybe she remembered that speech and was moved by it so wanted to say something similar. I don't know how educated she is or how knowledgable she is about plagiarism or that people Would recognize the speech? Someone on msnbc just pointed out that if this had happened to Michelle Obama, would she have been given a pass and would people be assuming my that she didn't write the speech even though she said earlier that she did? I hate the "if this would happen to..." argument. The fact is, it didn't, so we have no idea what would have happened. I think we can make a darn good guess based on how every slip, real or imagined, ever made by any Obama is still treated by old men who ought to know better.
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Post by mollycoddle on Jul 19, 2016 10:33:24 GMT
To me, that is not exacerbated or mitigated by their immigration status. But you aren't the parent to whom it made a difference how their child died. You're picking and choosing here. I don't think that Democrats should exploit grieving families either. I wince when I see those spectacles .
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 19, 2016 12:09:24 GMT
Maybe I am not...angry? Christian? patriotic? enough, but I found that benediction offensive. That wasn't a prayer, it was a call to arms.
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Post by Merge on Jul 19, 2016 12:27:51 GMT
Maybe I am not...angry? Christian? patriotic? enough, but I found that benediction offensive. That wasn't a prayer, it was a call to arms. Good gravy. Not only was it offensive, it was a "dear leader" style attempt to make one man into something like a savior. Have other convention prayers been solely for the benefit of the nominee? And spoke of "enemies" right here within the country?
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Post by anxiousmom on Jul 19, 2016 12:31:12 GMT
Maybe I am not...angry? Christian? patriotic? enough, but I found that benediction offensive. That wasn't a prayer, it was a call to arms. Good gravy. Not only was it offensive, it was a "dear leader" style attempt to make one man into something like a savior. Have other convention prayers been solely for the benefit of the nominee? And spoke of "enemies" right here within the country? Funny you say that-my very irreverent friend texted me after Mr. Trump entered the stage amidst all the smoke, backlit for affect 'where are all the Obama anti-Christ people now? Surely this guy fits the bill more...'
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Post by mom on Jul 19, 2016 13:56:10 GMT
Did y'all see Steven Colbert on stage earlier? He was mocking Trump then got pulled away by security. Edited: heres a link: STEVEN COLBERT That was filmed Sun.in CLE for his live show (in New York) Mon. night after the convention. He played the clip on his show and it was staged, not real. wow. I read a story on it and they never said it wasn't real!
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Post by mom on Jul 19, 2016 14:00:05 GMT
I have an awful lot of respect for the people who choose not to support Trump. He is so divisive and hates on anyone who disagrees with him. I won't get into his background and the bad things he has done, but just what he has done is this campaign alone is terrible. So Republicans who cannot stomach him impress me. They make me listen to them. They may not show a united front to other Republicans, but they are showing Democrats that there is a line that needs to be drawn and I appreciate that. I could not have said it better! Thank you. This is where we start to work together. OK, after sleeping on it - y'all are so right. We shouldn't just smile and act like we agree with Trump. Yes, he is our Partys candidate but that isn't enough. I guess I wanted to see something last night I could get behind - I cant vote for Hilliary, but I cant vote Trump either.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 18:24:45 GMT
Something else I got a charge out of when reading about it was the invocation that started that shit show.
Obviously, if this dude is The Donald pastor, then I have to think that The Donald agrees with every word he says and there was a great deal of 2Peas panties in the wad when Hillary Clinton said something about her making enemies of Republicans, so I have to think that The Donald doesn't give one flying f*ck about uniting this country.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2016 18:30:11 GMT
I am a Democrat and I feel badly for you all. I'm sorry you feel this way about your party right now. I know I would be devastated if was happening in my party. I know the political discourse/discussion can't be what you'd prefer it to be because of your nominee. I am always going to prefer a Democrat be in the White House, but getting there as a result of what we are all experiencing now is not ideal for ANY of us.
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