pridemom
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Post by pridemom on Jul 28, 2016 16:18:07 GMT
I watched this video this morning. It's a doctor from the UK. It's a video of a mother whose baby is allowed to exit the womb on his own during a cesarean. My younger two kids were c/sections, but had no distress or need of urgent care upon delivery. They were just big and positioned badly, inhibiting delivery. It wouldn't be appropriate in all cases, but I love the shift to making the birth as natural as possible. Maybe Melissa can chime in. www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/news/a39590/gentle-caesarean-birthing-video/
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TankTop
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Post by TankTop on Jul 28, 2016 16:22:57 GMT
I love the concept when possible.
I have two kids and both were csections. The first was an emergency csection. My second was scheduled and planned due to my need for blood thinners and my history of blood clots. The second was certainly more relaxed, but still very medical.
I love my obgyn. I am grateful that he was with me for both and did what was necessary for safe deliveries.
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blue tulip
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Post by blue tulip on Jul 28, 2016 16:26:51 GMT
that just looks so.. weird to me. everyone standing around watching this baby just sit there. I wonder if the need for a "gentle birth" is just us projecting what we would like to have onto these babies. is there actually any proven benefit to a slow birth like this rather than the usual? wouldn't any distress/discomfort (in a typical birth, whether from natural or c-section births) be pretty short-lived and forgotten quickly?
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Jul 28, 2016 16:29:39 GMT
I had all four of my kids by c-section. I'm not sure I would have been calm enough to wait for that to happen (although in reality it didn't take that long, but I had some panic symptoms during my surgeries). Also, with my 2nd-4th c-section it seemed that they had to do a lot of wrangling to get the babies out, so this may not have worked. I do recognize that there are health benefits to this and may have tried it if I knew about it (along with some of the other ways I have recently heard of to help baby get the good bacteria that they miss by not being born vaginally).
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Post by secondlife on Jul 28, 2016 16:30:38 GMT
I'm sort of fascinated, but - I'm so claustrophobic that I can't stand to have the bed sheets around my feet and watching this made me feel so uncomfortable in my legs, all crawly and twitchy. I just wanted to kick my feet around.
I'm so weird and I totally own it.
Doesn't mean I think they shouldn't do it, and the concept of vaginal birth is just as bad even though I had one myself, just that I have this weird claustrophobic feeling watching it.
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pridemom
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Post by pridemom on Jul 28, 2016 16:31:42 GMT
that just looks so.. weird to me. everyone standing around watching this baby just sit there. I wonder if the need for a "gentle birth" is just us projecting what we would like to have onto these babies. is there actually any proven benefit to a slow birth like this rather than the usual? wouldn't any distress/discomfort (in a typical birth, whether from natural or c-section births) be pretty short-lived and forgotten quickly? The article noted that it helps clear the lungs and airway of mucous. I know my c/section babies had a lot more issues with mucous than my two that were born vaginally. It was a little more than two minutes. Knowing how long I pushed, two minutes is nothing!
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Post by annabella on Jul 28, 2016 17:30:14 GMT
Wow that was interesting to watch. In normal birth a baby is pushed out by the mother correct, not the baby moving down the passage itself, so is this really a natural thing to do, to force the baby to wiggle out? In the end it's grabbed by a hand and pulled out so that negates a gentle arrival.
Side note: Are women allowed to wear bras during childbirth? I wear a bra 24/7, sleep in it, I don't feel I'm wearing it ever. I don't want to be braless during birth, to me it would feel unnatural. Is there any option to wear a bra if I want?
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ginacivey
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Post by ginacivey on Jul 28, 2016 17:43:33 GMT
you can wear a bra if you want....vaginal
i did - i have big boobs and i don't like to be unsupported
i am not sure about a c section - but at that point - you might not really care
i thought the birth was interesting
i am another that thinks we are projecting -
a vaginal birth does a lot to 'massage the baby' as it comes down the vaginal canal - and my uneducated opinion is that that has something to do with the mucous issues mentioned above
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Post by AmandaA on Jul 28, 2016 17:55:10 GMT
Side note: Are women allowed to wear bras during childbirth? I wear a bra 24/7, sleep in it, I don't feel I'm wearing it ever. I don't want to be braless during birth, to me it would feel unnatural. Is there any option to wear a bra if I want? Depends on the hospital. When I had DD3, I was not allowed to have ANY metal on me- so even the earrings I was wearing had to come out. It is becoming more and more common that they utilize a special metal detecting wand at the end of the C/S to verify that no instruments or sponges have been left in the patient by mistake. So before they close the final layer, they will pass the wand over you as a final safety check. I suspect that will eventually become standard procedure and technology everywhere.
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on Jul 28, 2016 17:57:00 GMT
That was really strange to watch. I had to have a emergency C-section with my youngest and I don't think if it wasn't an emergency I could have laid there, uncomfortable as I was, and just wait it out. I don't really see the point of this gentle C-section.
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Post by snugglebutter on Jul 28, 2016 18:20:03 GMT
In one hospital I was told that I had to take off my bra if I wanted an epidural, but it never came up at the hospital where my other three were born. With my youngest I went in for a csection (was changed to an induction at the last minute - long story) and they suggested wearing my nursing bra under the gown if I wanted to breastfeed in the recovery room.
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Post by annabella on Jul 28, 2016 18:22:14 GMT
I have wireless bras and could unsnap it for an epidural.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jul 28, 2016 18:22:58 GMT
Wow that was interesting to watch. In normal birth a baby is pushed out by the mother correct, not the baby moving down the passage itself, so is this really a natural thing to do, to force the baby to wiggle out? In the end it's grabbed by a hand and pulled out so that negates a gentle arrival. Side note: Are women allowed to wear bras during childbirth? I wear a bra 24/7, sleep in it, I don't feel I'm wearing it ever. I don't want to be braless during birth, to me it would feel unnatural. Is there any option to wear a bra if I want? I have my last child 17 years ago, but things may have changed. I was told no bra because the metal in the bra would burn you if they need to shock you in an emergency, especially if you ended up in surgery. But I was a high risk pregnancy with both kids and had a 50/50 chance of a c-section with #1 and an 85% chance with #2. I ended up with an emergency c-section with #1 and a VBAC with #2. Don't worry--when you are in labor, you may not like it that you are not wearing a bra, but you have much bigger issues to worry about. And if it's a big deal, I would imagine that you could discuss it with your OB and get one of those bras that you can slip on over your head (no clasp or underwires) as a compromise. As for the gentle c-section, I guess I don't see a lot of harm in it. If it went on for more than 5 minutes, I would worry about infection rates and needing more anesthesia. And obviously it wouldn't work for urgent situations. I don't see how it helps the lungs or "good bacteria", as the baby's face appears to be delivered the traditional c-sect (quick) way anyway.
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pridemom
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Post by pridemom on Jul 28, 2016 18:25:35 GMT
Wow that was interesting to watch. In normal birth a baby is pushed out by the mother correct, not the baby moving down the passage itself, so is this really a natural thing to do, to force the baby to wiggle out? In the end it's grabbed by a hand and pulled out so that negates a gentle arrival. Side note: Are women allowed to wear bras during childbirth? I wear a bra 24/7, sleep in it, I don't feel I'm wearing it ever. I don't want to be braless during birth, to me it would feel unnatural. Is there any option to wear a bra if I want? While the mother generally assists with pushing, an unconscious woman can deliver a baby. And if a newly delivered baby is let to do it, they actually will crawl up to the mother's chest to nurse. As for the bra question: many women will wear a sports bra during delivery. If the bra has no metal, it could probably be worn in the operating room.
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Post by melanell on Jul 28, 2016 18:39:51 GMT
It was interesting to watch. I think if it's an option that could be made available to a mom, then it's nice for her to have the option, simply because I think that some moms who have c-sections may feel that they don't have as many options. My uneducated first reaction is that it isn't any better or worse for baby than a typical c-section, but that it's simply different.
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 28, 2016 18:59:12 GMT
Wow that was interesting to watch. In normal birth a baby is pushed out by the mother correct, not the baby moving down the passage itself, so is this really a natural thing to do, to force the baby to wiggle out? In the end it's grabbed by a hand and pulled out so that negates a gentle arrival. Side note: Are women allowed to wear bras during childbirth? I wear a bra 24/7, sleep in it, I don't feel I'm wearing it ever. I don't want to be braless during birth, to me it would feel unnatural. Is there any option to wear a bra if I want? You are not allowed to wear anything during a c-section. If you start crashing they need immediate access to your chest. I've had 3, and with the 1st I wanted to keep my bra on and they said absolutely not. They let you keep the fugly gown on, but once your on the table it gets pushed as far down as possible. Basically your nips are covered. They attach monitors all over your chest so you really can't have the gown top up around your neck. It's all very glamorous!
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Post by pierkiss on Jul 28, 2016 19:06:26 GMT
I watched the video. That just seems odd to me. I get the part about how doing it this way provides some "natural squeezing" to help get the mucous out but I wonder if it's really necessary?
It was really cool to watch that little guy wriggle himself out though!
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Post by trollie on Jul 28, 2016 20:38:05 GMT
Wow that was interesting to watch. In normal birth a baby is pushed out by the mother correct, not the baby moving down the passage itself, so is this really a natural thing to do, to force the baby to wiggle out? In the end it's grabbed by a hand and pulled out so that negates a gentle arrival. Side note: Are women allowed to wear bras during childbirth? I wear a bra 24/7, sleep in it, I don't feel I'm wearing it ever. I don't want to be braless during birth, to me it would feel unnatural. Is there any option to wear a bra if I want? My 2nd baby pushed her way out. I didn't do anything but writhe in pain. I think they try to get baby to nurse pretty quickly after birth these days, so braless is the way to be! Also, vaginal delivery helps push fluid out of the baby's lungs while being birthed. Maybe this helps with that? eta - Let those girls fly free occasionally!
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Post by trollie on Jul 28, 2016 20:41:31 GMT
On a side note, I wonder how big that baby was..... He looked really big!!
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