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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 3, 2016 1:49:32 GMT
There was a pea here the other day who said she was leaning towards Trump because he was going to help veterans and that is an issue that is important to her. I kept wondering what exactly he was going to do that would help veterans in any way, shape or form. according to Trump, isn't he going to save us all? Save America and make it great again? I do wonder how he plans to do this though?!
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Post by jayfab on Aug 3, 2016 1:59:07 GMT
WHERE in the heck did you get that from? Besides his media pictures? I don't think that is true at all. I wish I could remember where I read it, but just recently I read something that said a recent poll of currently serving military showed that a higher percentage were supporting Mr. Trump. The analysis suggested that it was likely skewed in the direction because as a whole the military tends to traditionally vote more conservatively. But at the same time, there are a lot of pretty vocal veterans and veteran organizations that are against him, so maybe I don't know what I am talking about. I think you're right anxiousmom. I heard/read something just the other day but can't remember where. Here's a story really ripping into Mr Khan from a blue star mom. I think there are quite a few vets and family of that are Trump supporters. The ones I know say the same thing we've heard before. He says what I want to say. BLUE STAR MOM RESPONDS TO MUSLIM FATHER
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Post by jayfab on Aug 3, 2016 2:07:58 GMT
I know this shouldn't matter, but do you think it's the whole idea of serving under a woman President? Yes. I do think that is part of it. Not all, but part.
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Post by linda~lou on Aug 3, 2016 2:14:07 GMT
I know this shouldn't matter, but do you think it's the whole idea of serving under a woman President? That could very well be. I'll be voting Hillary, though not her biggest fan, because never, ever would I remotely consider voting for Trump. I honestly think if the Democrats had a decent, experienced person that was reasonably well liked, man or woman, Trump would not have the support he has. I think some people hate Hillary so much they'd vote for Attila the Hun over her.
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Post by linda~lou on Aug 3, 2016 2:15:55 GMT
There was a pea here the other day who said she was leaning towards Trump because he was going to help veterans and that is an issue that is important to her. I kept wondering what exactly he was going to do that would help veterans in any way, shape or form. according to Trump, isn't he going to save us all? Save America and make it great again? I do wonder how he plans to do this though?! Because he knows big words and has a big brain. 🙄
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Post by berty on Aug 3, 2016 2:19:41 GMT
Well, considering he doesn't have a real heart (or brain,for that matter) he must be so happy. Can we wake up from the coma any time soon and it will all be over? Or does someone have to give him a brain and courage yet?? I wonder if he'll have flying monkeys at his next gathering? Of course, that's assuming their visas are from the "right" kind of countries. We certainly don't want any Mexican or Syrian monkeys here!
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Post by elaine on Aug 3, 2016 2:21:08 GMT
The fact that he kept it is what totally boggles my mind. Not "thank you for honoring me in this way but you earned this medal through your sacrifice and bravery." He kept it! He is about the lowest form of human I have ever witnessed breathing. A million times this! My husband, who spent 23 years in the Navy, said that he would have said pretty much what you said - "thank you, but you earned this, it belongs to you for your service and bravery." There is no way he would ever ever accept it.
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Post by cyndijane on Aug 3, 2016 2:40:16 GMT
I keep thinking I'll wake up from this nightmare and a real GOP candidate will come forward. I still cannot believe he's serious about any of this. How is this guy the best we could come up with? Unbelievable.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Aug 3, 2016 3:57:19 GMT
I keep seeing the various names that Trump supporters are called here and one of them that isn't mentioned is veterans. I don't agree with or support Trump, but it seems that many of our men and women in uniform (now or in the past) do. Of course he said something flippant and stupid, what else do people expect. What else would we have to post about each hour if not for the stupidity that comes out of his mouth I don't know one single veteran in real life who supports him. Two of my sons are in the military. They both say that, while Trump initially had followers due to his being the Republican frontrunner/nominee, he has run through his allotment of automatic acceptance. More and more of their friends are going to vote for Clinton. Things may be different for older military members, but their (my sons') opinion is that most of the younger crowd, a least, has zero respect for/confidence in Trump and definitely does not want him as their Commander in Chief.
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Post by ferblover on Aug 3, 2016 13:30:41 GMT
2 veterans in my neighborhood, both are Trump supporters at last unwanted political discussion with them. Plus a Secret Service guy. I live in a very red county of a swing state.
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Post by beanbuddymom on Aug 3, 2016 14:33:26 GMT
I keep seeing the various names that Trump supporters are called here and one of them that isn't mentioned is veterans. I don't agree with or support Trump, but it seems that many of our men and women in uniform (now or in the past) do. Of course he said something flippant and stupid, what else do people expect. What else would we have to post about each hour if not for the stupidity that comes out of his mouth It's really horrifying. DH is a vet and he works with other vets and military and they are huge supporters of Trump. I literally can't even be in the same room with DH at the moment when he is watching TV because of the fury that builds inside of me as he listens to other people supporting Trump and denouncing the democrats. It's mind boggling and I have serious questions about the state of my marriage to be honest. When I told DH I was appalled, how can you support someone so racist - DH said he "wasn't racist, that's just what MSNBC wants you to believe." This is the rhetoric he is getting at work (DH is like a parrot, I can always tell who he's been hanging out with, much like your child when you see behaviors at school). It's just awful.
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Post by beanbuddymom on Aug 3, 2016 14:40:18 GMT
I know this shouldn't matter, but do you think it's the whole idea of serving under a woman President? It shouldn't matter but YES I do think it for many male veterans and many male military there is NO way they will elect a woman president. I will tell you with full consciousness that there is a large majority of this country in the military that this is a HUGE problem serving under a woman in any aspect IN the military and there is no way they will ever ever ever ever elect a woman president. It is an extreme heavy heart that i have over it, but I have heard many people around the country in the military reflect this sentiment about the people they serve with or served with or under and it's extremely sad that men in this day and age still feel this way. Then the ones that are on the fence in the military have the Benghazi issue to help them make that decision. If it were strictly up to the military to elect a president it would never be a woman and most definitely never be Hillary Clinton. Sad truth.
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Post by beanbuddymom on Aug 3, 2016 14:44:32 GMT
I don't know one single veteran in real life who supports him. Two of my sons are in the military. They both say that, while Trump initially had followers due to his being the Republican frontrunner/nominee, he has run through his allotment of automatic acceptance. More and more of their friends are going to vote for Clinton. Things may be different for older military members, but their (my sons') opinion is that most of the younger crowd, a least, has zero respect for/confidence in Trump and definitely does not want him as their Commander in Chief. I am happy to hear that. I was working on a project earlier this past year that had nothing to do with politics but involved veterans across the country in various parts of military and they were very vocal in side comments about the current election so it pleases me that maybe there is hope, because it made me sad to hear so many veterans talk about it in this manner.
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Post by beanbuddymom on Aug 3, 2016 14:46:21 GMT
I keep thinking I'll wake up from this nightmare and a real GOP candidate will come forward. I still cannot believe he's serious about any of this. How is this guy the best we could come up with? Unbelievable. It sounds like an HR nightmare where you don't get a lot of resumes for a position no one wants and have to go with some yahoo who you don't really want but there's no one else that wants the job. I feel like the whole process needs an overhaul and there needs a tighter "qualifications requirements" part of who is allowed to run.
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Post by flute4peace on Aug 3, 2016 15:06:45 GMT
Well, considering he doesn't have a real heart (or brain,for that matter) he must be so happy. That's it!!
We send him to OZ!!
Brilliant!
(I'll bring the monkey food)
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 3, 2016 16:07:37 GMT
I know this shouldn't matter, but do you think it's the whole idea of serving under a woman President? No, I don't. I know that many people want it to be a Hilary or woman thing (not saying you Cindy) but it's a Clinton thing. I'm from a Navy town and many in the military are very anti Clinton back from when Bill was president. I have heard the phrase 'the Clinton Navy' for years. So no, it's not a woman thing, it's a Clinton thing. Though that's just how I've heard and seen it since the 90's, pea opinion can and probably will be very different Also as someone else mentioned, the military has traditionally voted more conservatively. Though that has been changing in recent (10+) years.
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Post by chances on Aug 3, 2016 16:23:46 GMT
I know this shouldn't matter, but do you think it's the whole idea of serving under a woman President? No, I don't. I know that many people want it to be a Hilary or woman thing (not saying you Cindy) but it's a Clinton thing. I'm from a Navy town and many in the military are very anti Clinton back from when Bill was president. I have heard the phrase 'the Clinton Navy' for years. So no, it's not a woman thing, it's a Clinton thing. Though that's just how I've heard and seen it since the 90's, pea opinion can and probably will be very different Also as someone else mentioned, the military has traditionally voted more conservatively. Though that has been changing in recent (10+) years. It doesn't have to be one or the other. There are going to people who don't like her politics and people who don't like serving under a woman. There are bigots in every profession; I don't understand the need to pretend otherwise.
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Post by jayfab on Aug 3, 2016 16:54:13 GMT
I don't know one single veteran in real life who supports him. Two of my sons are in the military. They both say that, while Trump initially had followers due to his being the Republican frontrunner/nominee, he has run through his allotment of automatic acceptance. More and more of their friends are going to vote for Clinton. Things may be different for older military members, but their (my sons') opinion is that most of the younger crowd, a least, has zero respect for/confidence in Trump and definitely does not want him as their Commander in Chief. Reading this gives me hope.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 3, 2016 17:09:24 GMT
No, I don't. I know that many people want it to be a Hilary or woman thing (not saying you Cindy) but it's a Clinton thing. I'm from a Navy town and many in the military are very anti Clinton back from when Bill was president. I have heard the phrase 'the Clinton Navy' for years. So no, it's not a woman thing, it's a Clinton thing. Though that's just how I've heard and seen it since the 90's, pea opinion can and probably will be very different Also as someone else mentioned, the military has traditionally voted more conservatively. Though that has been changing in recent (10+) years. It doesn't have to be one or the other. There are going to people who don't like her politics and people who don't like serving under a woman. There are bigots in every profession; I don't understand the need to pretend otherwise. Who's saying or pretending it has to be one or the other? I gave my opinion based on where I live and what I've heard and seen over the years. I don't think people realize unless they live in military towns how deeply the feelings about the Clintons run. I have personally never heard any veterans or current members do the bashing of her looks or dress IRL as I have here. So that also leads me to believe it's less about her gender then it is about her politics and history of her and her husband. I have had to hear about the Clintons and their policies for years before she even ran for president.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 18:21:37 GMT
In the interest of not continuing to start more political threads, I'm sharing this here. NYT has put together footage from some Trump rallies over the past year. It's horrifying to see how some of the supporters act and speak. link
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Post by linda~lou on Aug 3, 2016 18:34:48 GMT
That is horrifying. It's like we're watching some 3rd world country revolt.
I read where a 10 year old boy yelled take that bitch down (speaking of Hillary) at a rally the other day. And the mom saw no problem with it.
All this man does is incite vicious behavior. It is frightening.
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Post by mellyw on Aug 3, 2016 18:48:28 GMT
In the interest of not continuing to start more political threads, I'm sharing this here. NYT has put together footage from some Trump rallies over the past year. It's horrifying to see how some of the supporters act and speak. link I made it about halfway thru that video, & stopped it. My overwhelming feeling right now is sadness. That was just awful, that some of my fellow Americans think & act that way.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Aug 3, 2016 18:58:13 GMT
In the interest of not continuing to start more political threads, I'm sharing this here. NYT has put together footage from some Trump rallies over the past year. It's horrifying to see how some of the supporters act and speak. link I made it about halfway thru that video, & stopped it. My overwhelming feeling right now is sadness. That was just awful, that some of my fellow Americans think & act that way. I think sadly our media looks for the worst of the worst to show on most topics I don't agree with the people I know that are voting for Trump, but I respect they have the right to vote how they want. None of the few people I know that are voting for him are any of the names that have been thrown around or gun toting or weirdos They are just normal people that won't make the news and are just voting how THEY feel is best.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 19:03:17 GMT
I made it about halfway thru that video, & stopped it. My overwhelming feeling right now is sadness. That was just awful, that some of my fellow Americans think & act that way. I think sadly our media looks for the worst of the worst to show on most topics I don't agree with the people I know that are voting for Trump, but I respect they have the right to vote how they want. None of the few people I know that are voting for him are any of the names that have been thrown around or gun toting or weirdos They are just normal people that won't make the news and are just voting how THEY feel is best. I get what you're saying, and it's obviously a minority of Trump supporters who think and act the way shown in the video. However, there are some very disturbing undertones in the campaign that seem to intentionally appeal to this segment of the population and I think it's important for people to see what that results in.
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Post by christine58 on Aug 3, 2016 19:16:12 GMT
I don't know one single veteran in real life who supports him. I do...he and his wife are Trump supporters.
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Post by Nink on Aug 3, 2016 19:18:34 GMT
In the interest of not continuing to start more political threads, I'm sharing this here. NYT has put together footage from some Trump rallies over the past year. It's horrifying to see how some of the supporters act and speak. linkI could totally see my BIL behaving exactly like that at a Trump rally.
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Post by mellyw on Aug 3, 2016 19:25:57 GMT
I made it about halfway thru that video, & stopped it. My overwhelming feeling right now is sadness. That was just awful, that some of my fellow Americans think & act that way. I think sadly our media looks for the worst of the worst to show on most topics I don't agree with the people I know that are voting for Trump, but I respect they have the right to vote how they want. None of the few people I know that are voting for him are any of the names that have been thrown around or gun toting or weirdos They are just normal people that won't make the news and are just voting how THEY feel is best. I'm not naive to the media, but hearing & seeing those people? I'm well aware of the worst in our society, but it still stinks to see it up close & personal. And I agree, I do know a couple people voting for Trump, & they are normal people make their own choices.
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