MerryMom
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Post by MerryMom on Aug 5, 2014 14:37:01 GMT
Hi, In reading the annual school supply vent thread, I posted about the time we (the PTO) did a school supply sale and the inevitable problems when parents think we need to meet their individual and precious snowflake's personal preference.
So here's a PTO story...
We were having a school fall festival carnival: with inflatable jumping things, balloon animal artists, loads of games, raffle prizes, themed raffle baskets, and even a caricature artist, plus food.
We had a duck pond, and a lady volunteered to "help out" by ordering some of our supplies through Oriental Trading (she was ordering some items for herself and as a room parent, but she needed more stuff to order to get the free shipping). I gave her the item number for "weighted rubber duckies" and to order 2 dozen.
So the order comes in and she brings in the box, says she "got a better price for the ducks". I glance at it and there are rubber duckies in it, so I didn't check it further. She fills out a reimbursement request for the rubber duckies.
So a week later, I'm at home, it's late at night, early in the morning, and it looks like rain for our carnival which starts at 9 am that morning. I'm loading up my car with the supplies I need to bring. Since it looks like rain, I think, I better check the kiddie pool and make sure that it doesn't leak in case we have to move the games into the gym. So I fill up the kiddie pool (in my garage) and no leaks. I think "Well I'll just throw the duckies in to see if we have enough.
THE RUBBER DUCKIES AREN'T FLOATING UPRIGHT, THEY ARE LAYING ON THEIR SIDES LIKE DEAD DUCKS!!!! She didn't order weighted ducks, she ordered the regular ones. Now, since some of the bottom of the ducks have PRIZE written on the bottom, obviously, this can be seen when playing the game.
What to do, what to do.
Aha, I'll glue metal washers to the bottom of the rubber duckies! I dry off the duckies, but alas, my husband has only about 5 metal washers. I drive to Walmart at 2:30 am to purchase some metal washers. Of course, the cashier is thinking "Who needs metal washers at 2:30 in the mornings?" But wisely says nothing to me as I am sure that I appeared rather frazzled.
So back home (10 miles away) and at 3 am, I am hot glue gunning metal washers to the bottom of rubber duckies. Of course, my husband comes out to the garage in the middle of all this and says "This is the last time you are on the PTO". I give him the stink eye.
So I get 2 hours of sleep, head off to the school at 7 am and get the games and things set up for the carnival. Of course, Ms. Rubber Duckie Orderer doesn't show up to work her shift at 9 am and she strolls in at noon and doesn't want to volunteer at a station because "I want to go around the carnival with my kids and get some great pictures." Just oozing a sense of entitlement.
Oh really? I guess our sons and daughters are orphans.
Off she strolls, and silence... crickets... from the parents who heard her say that. Finally a mom says "So who wants to hold her down, while I slap her silly?".
So around 1 pm, I walk over to a game to cover it, as I am passing the duck pond game, Ms. Rubber Duckie (incompetent) Orderer says, "Those ducks are floating tilted." I turn on my heel, face her and say, "Yes I know....(silence)...you didn't order the weighted ducks...(silence)..., you got the regular ducks even though I gave you the item number... I had to hot glue a metal washer on each of them...at 3 am...(said in a significant way). "
Silence.
then..."ohhhhhhhh I wondered why you wanted the more expensive ones."
The venom in my "stink eye" to her probably melted some children standing nearby.
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Post by anonrefugee on Aug 5, 2014 15:02:40 GMT
Great story!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 15:12:03 GMT
I am so sorry to be chuckling....there is one in every crowd...sorry you got stuck with that one!
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Post by alibama on Aug 5, 2014 15:12:59 GMT
A good deed never goes unpunished lol. sorry
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Post by kkooch on Aug 5, 2014 15:16:01 GMT
Quality volunteers are so hard to find.....something we've all experienced at some point or other (whether scouts, school etc)
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Post by anxiousmom on Aug 5, 2014 15:24:57 GMT
The worst part about serving on the pto board are all the people who are willing to share their opinions on how things *should* be run, but have zero intention of helping you actually do the work to get things done.
You don't like the way we allocated funds and you just spent 20 minutes telling me why you didn't like it and how it should have been done...when you could have spent just a few extra minutes, come to the meeting and shared your input there where it might have made a difference.
You complain that we had to pay a company to help set up one of the major fundraisers?? Trying volunteering to help with the set up and running of the silly thing and then we wouldn't have to pay someone else to do it.
The list goes on and on. Complain, don't do anything, complain some more. Drove me nuts.
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MerryMom
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Post by MerryMom on Aug 5, 2014 16:10:28 GMT
Ahhh yes, the "Suggestors"...more good times.
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Post by Peamac on Aug 5, 2014 16:35:41 GMT
Love that mom!
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Post by eleezybeth on Aug 5, 2014 16:39:19 GMT
I'd of called her for some help at 3.
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Post by MerryMom on Aug 5, 2014 16:40:53 GMT
Love that mom! If not for the kids standing nearby, I think she would have used the phrase "b*&ch slap."
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Post by Goldynn on Aug 5, 2014 17:04:21 GMT
Love that mom! Lol, this!
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 5, 2014 17:15:59 GMT
Oooh, I hope this thread will become horror stories from anyone else too. I love a good PTA horror story. lol. And MerryMom, I'm sorry that I'm chuckling at your story. I KNOW it was not funny at the time. I have a few, from my hundreds of years spent in the PTA. Oh wait, it wasn't 100? ugh... 1. Spring Fair day. My dh was PTA Treasurer. I was just an ordinary PTA volunteer, no official title at that time, unless it was Mrs. PTA Treasurer. At that time the procedure was to give every kid some free tickets, but then of course parents could buy more. We had several stations set up around the school -- at front and back doors, in the library, etc. to sell tickets. I was walking by one of them about mid-day (fair usually started around 10:00 a.m. or so) and the fair coordinator called me over. She reached into the bottom of the cash box and grabbed out a HUGE fist full of money! Not counted or organized or anything, so she had NO IDEA how much was in her hand. She said "Here, can you give this to P.? [my dh]" Then she reached in for another HUGE handful. Just handed me hundreds of dollars without counting it. o.m.g. I stuffed it into my fanny pack so I wouldn't get mugged between there and home. It's really a good thing that dh and I are both honest because we could have taken any amount from that and no one would have ever known. Dh put some new procedures in place almost immediately! 2. Scholastic Book Fair - omg, I could write a book about this one. No pun intended. Some standouts that I still remember all these years: -- One year Scholastic made a mistake and included not only all the elementary books as usual but also several boxes of books that were clearly for older middle-early high school age. Themes not appropriate for younger kids. A couple volunteer parents just unloaded all the books and put them out on the shelves without really paying attention. Our librarian (who was FANTASTIC about everything, not just the book fair) always went through the books before the kids did, just to be sure that everything was appropriate for kids. So this time she pulled most of those books that were too mature for younger kids. One of the parents who had put them out saw that section missing, other stuff in its place, and raised a stink. "You're CENSORING books!!" *gasp!* *omg!* *etc!* The librarian pointed out that each parent was responsible for their own child and if that parent wanted her kids to read any of those books she was welcome to buy them. But she (the librarian) did not want the 2nd grader who could read at a 6th grade level picking up something inappropriate. The librarian won of course. And that parent would have been the first down at the school complaining if HER 2nd grader came home with a book that she didn't approve of. -- The parents (definitely more than one of these over the years I did the book fair) who were irate that their snowflake couldn't buy a book with his/her class on the day that class came to shop. And why was that you might ask? Oh yeah, it could be because the parent didn't send in any money with the kid. A parent who had been reminded at least twice, had seen the order form come home, and whose daily Starbucks money could buy many books. And a parent who would most likely be shopping during the evening hours. But her child was "embarrassed" not to be able to buy a book with the class. ugh. -- The parent volunteer who got angry at me for this: A 1st grade class was visiting the fair. A little girl came up to me with "Rufferella". She had heard the librarian read this to them and had her heart set on buy it. She handed me a handful of crumbled $1.00 bills and assorted change. I counted it and before my brain could engage my mouth said "oh I'm sorry, you didn't bring enough money." dumb, dumb. She was short $1.00 and something. She stood there and her eyes gradually filled with tears. omg, I made a cute 1st grader cry! Also, she was one of our second-language kids which meant her family probably did not have a lot of spare change laying around. As soon as my brain kicked in I said "oh wait, let me count again, sometimes I'm bad at adding up money." So I counted again and lo and behold there was enough there. I still remember her smile. The parent told me that I was "setting a bad example" and "they'll all think they can just come with less money than they owe." I told that as far as that little girl was concerned I had miscounted the first time. And reminded her that the point of the book fair was to get books to kids. And, if she didn't like it to please go report me to the librarian. 3. The two parents who EVERY SINGLE YEAR organized a huge Thanksgiving feast for the K-1 kids. Then one year the health department got wind of it and said that bringing in cooked poultry from outside wasn't legal. (not sure if it applied to other foods also, but the turkeys were their main point.) That year these two women did it anyway! Then got mad when they couldn't get enough volunteers to help organize it. 4. The impossibility of getting people to volunteer help. We had a lot of good folks helping, of course. But, as someone already mentioned, lots more had suggestions but no plans to help. My favorite was the year the two ladies from my [HASH]3 above quit running the school picture day. They quit about three weeks before Picture Day, because they were mad about the Thanksgiving feast. Three weeks! So a friend of mine and I stepped in to do it. I mean, it's not hard, you basically just do what the photographer wants, and schedule the classes. So we did that for two years, but then got sick of it and moved to running the book fair which was more fun. So when we decided not to do it for the following year we sent a notice home saying that and asking for someone to step up. No one did. We sent a second notice. No takers. The principal put it in her weekly newsletter. No one offered. So finally, with the principal's blessing we sent home a notice that said: "Dear Parents -- We know how much you love getting your child's school picture taken. And we know that they make lovely gifts for grandparents. Therefore we regret to inform you that there will be no school pictures next year because we are stepping down and no one has come forward who is willing to do this job. Thank you for two good years. K and L." --- hehehehe. And yes of course someone stepped up. But why is it all about pulling teeth?! Okay, so I did write a book. I have many many more of these. I met some wonderful people through PTA, and in fact my partner in school pictures and book fair is still a close friend. But... by the time dd got to around 2nd or 3rd grade (ds was already gone from elementary) I had had it. I quit everything and told the classroom teacher that I was available for anything they might need, to please just let me know. But I was done with PTA stuff. I stuck to my guns too. The one time I relented was to help at the middle school book fair (but NOT be in charge of it!), and contribute to the International Potluck held in the middle school at Thanksgiving. This was a school with something like 28 countries represented so the food was excellent. See, just give me books and food and I'm good to go. Too bad a nice glass of wine wasn't allowed on school property. lol.
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Post by myshelly on Aug 5, 2014 17:22:01 GMT
I have been staring at this thread title wondering why anyone would have horror stories about Paid Time Off The school/parent thing is called PTA here.
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Post by Regina Phalange on Aug 5, 2014 17:32:30 GMT
I came in here expecting hilarities and frustrations about paid days off as well...lol.
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Post by snappinsami on Aug 5, 2014 17:43:16 GMT
Wow. Just wow. When DD was in 4th and 5th grade, I got VERY involved in her elementary school's PTO. I did the yearbook (and dealt with parents complaining that their Precious Snowflake wasn't in it enough - but of course they never sent in any pictures), the newsletter, and a gazillion other things. Thankfully, the PTO officers and others involved when I was there was an FANTASTIC group of (mostly) women who got along very well, had no political crap going on, and I look back on them very wistfully and fondly. From my friends with younger kids who were there after Erin left for middle school, it sounds like the PTO atmosphere has totally changed in the last few years, and it's now much like the other horror stories here. Bummer... Now DD is entering high school ( ), and we're in a new area. Joining the PTSA/school foundation may be my best chance to meet people here (seeing as I work from home). I have no idea what to expect...
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Post by shamrock on Aug 5, 2014 17:47:56 GMT
I've been PTO VP & Pres & a room mom. My terms ended in May, and I am DONE! I'm done with the drama that was worse than high school, college and 2 years of living in a sorority house with 70 girls combined. I have told the new officers that I will continue doing Box Tops till the Nov deadline and that's it. At our transition meeting the new Pres kept asking me who is in charge of spirit wear, teacher appreciation, fundraising, this, that and the other. I kept saying I was or one of the other 3 officers. She was stunned. I'm not sure how since she'd actually been at every meeting and should have heard us begging for someone to do something! But it's all on her now. All the ideas that she kept suggesting and we kept denying because the principal either didn't approve or we didn't have the volunteers are mysteriously not on the calendar as she promised they would be with her in charge
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Post by Cheesy on Aug 5, 2014 18:17:28 GMT
Once when I was helping with the book fair at the middle school, I saw a girl "shoplift" a book. I knew that look: shifty eyes glancing around. Luckily her teacher was there and I let her know my suspicion. Sure enough, the teacher brought the book back later and said she sent the girl to the principal.
Now, who wants to talk about crazy sports parents and team moms??
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Post by lesley on Aug 5, 2014 18:19:20 GMT
I ran the book fair for several years when my kids were at primary school. I remember one year we had a problem with one particular book that was hugely popular. We sold out of the stock we had, and took orders and payment for many more. Turned out Scholastic couldn't supply us with any extra copies of this particular book, so we had to issue refunds. The only problem was we had already banked all the takings so we had to write cheques instead. One parent was furious with me because her cheque was for £4.99 when her son had given us a £5 note, and hadn't got his penny change. (We used to run out of pennies quite quickly so we would have a box of sweets that the kids could choose from instead.) I explained that I could only refund her the actual cost of the book. After a loud and pointless monologue complaining about how we had cheated her, she marched off. If I'd had a penny on me I would have given it to her just to shut her up!
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Post by anxiousmom on Aug 5, 2014 18:34:58 GMT
I am pretty sure finding volunteers is the bane of every PTO/PTA. A lot of private schools have gone to a "volunteer or pay" type system where they set a predetermined amount of time per family that the family either volunteers a set amount of time, or pays per hour they missed. The school my kids were at (K-8) finally had to implement this type of system because it was the same parents who volunteered EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. and were getting so burned out that they didn't want to do anything anymore. That allowed us to contract out some tasks and not have to fight volunteer fatigue.
I am sitting on my hands right now because the very large school that my kids (well, now kid) attends has a note on their web page that says something to the effect of "because no one has been willing to volunteer, the PTO has to cease operations due to lack of interest." I have done the PTO thing across the board (room mom, various committees, VP Pres,) and it is killing me that no one else has stepped up. But at the same time, when we transferred to the school, I expressed an interest in helping out. I told the then president my background and asked how I could help, she looked at me and said in the snottiest tone I have ever heard "we would love it if you wrote a check!" That's it. Dismissed. She wasn't looking for help.
So I suspect this is a problem she created and now the kids are going to be the losers.
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Post by auntkelly on Aug 5, 2014 18:49:08 GMT
So many stories-I could write a book, but this was my very first PTA nightmare:
My first PTA job was co-chair of the pre-school station at our school carnival. The carnival is not a big deal at all. It's just a fun night out for kids and parents. The PTA had been doing the exact same things for years and the kids loved it. The carnival chair advised me and my co-chair that our station was a gymnastics obstacle course. The obstacle course had been donated years' ago. We just needed to set it up and hand out prizes when kids finished the obstacle course. The prizes, which were temporary tattoos, would be provided to us by the PTA a few hours before the event.
My co-chair came to me and said "I'd like to do more than just give out tattoos. This is an Olympics year. A local party store sells these really cool plastic medals on ribbons. We need $50 worth of medals for the carnival. I've already called the chair and she said there is no money in the budget for the medals. We can't ask the store to donate, because they are already donating other stuff. We would have to pay for the medals ourselves.
I said "I think the kids will be really happy w/ the tattoos, but if you have your heart set on the medals, then we can just split the cost of the medals."
She looked at me and said "I can't afford to pay one-half the cost of those medals."
I said "I think we had better stick w/ the tattoos then."
She said "But I've really got my heart set on the medals. Don't you think we could do a fund raiser to try and earn the money for the medals?"
I said I didn't have time to do a fund raiser, and I thought the kids would be happy with tattoos.
This woman would not give up!
She knocked on my door a few days later and said "I've raised the additional $25! I asked my dentist to donate the $25."
After telling her she shouldn't be out raising money in the name of the PTA w/out the board's permission, I handed over $25 to her so she could go buy those precious plastic medals.
The day before the carnival I called her and said "We can start setting up for the carnival at 3:30. I've arranged to take off work and rounded up some volunteers to help."
She said "I wasn't planning on coming to the carnival or helping you set up. I'm going out of town."
I said "What???"
Then, I kid you not, she said "I see my contribution to the carnival as coming up with the idea for the medals and finding a way to purchase them. I think I've done more than my share and you can handle the rest."
Thank goodness a lot of other preschool mothers stepped up to help. The younger kids did like the medals, but they didn't understand the Olympic connection since the carnival was held months before the Olympics. The older kids didn't want the plastic medals, they wanted tattoos.
This was the first of many wacky experiences with the PTA. Most people were great to work with, but there were some wackoos too.
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Post by peabrain on Aug 5, 2014 19:01:42 GMT
The worst part about serving on the pto board are all the people who are willing to share their opinions on how things *should* be run, but have zero intention of helping you actually do the work to get things done. You don't like the way we allocated funds and you just spent 20 minutes telling me why you didn't like it and how it should have been done...when you could have spent just a few extra minutes, come to the meeting and shared your input there where it might have made a difference. You complain that we had to pay a company to help set up one of the major fundraisers?? Trying volunteering to help with the set up and running of the silly thing and then we wouldn't have to pay someone else to do it. The list goes on and on. Complain, don't do anything, complain some more. Drove me nuts. Aint that the truth!
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Post by MerryMom on Aug 5, 2014 19:47:20 GMT
I added "PTA" to the thread title so as not to confuse with Paid Time Off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2014 19:49:27 GMT
The worst part about serving on the pto board are all the people who are willing to share their opinions on how things *should* be run, but have zero intention of helping you actually do the work to get things done. You don't like the way we allocated funds and you just spent 20 minutes telling me why you didn't like it and how it should have been done...when you could have spent just a few extra minutes, come to the meeting and shared your input there where it might have made a difference. You complain that we had to pay a company to help set up one of the major fundraisers?? Trying volunteering to help with the set up and running of the silly thing and then we wouldn't have to pay someone else to do it. The list goes on and on. Complain, don't do anything, complain some more. Drove me nuts. Aint that the truth! WE made a rule that if you bring up a suggestion you have to be willing to chair it....that stopped a lot of suggestions from coming forward
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Post by MerryMom on Aug 5, 2014 20:06:20 GMT
...and then there was the time the PTO decided to do a "Junk in the Trunk" garage sale. As 95% of our school is in the country, if you do a garage sale on your own, you don't get a lot of "drive by" business as you would if you lived in a sub-division. So a fundraiser idea was to sell spots in our school parking lot for people to set up their own individual garage sale booth. We charged $15 for one spot and $25 for a double spot. It was wildly successful in terms of selling out all of the spots. The PTO (meaning me and 4 other parents) grilled hot dogs, sold popcorn and cans of pop and water. The PTO did the advertising and arranged for a Volunteers of America truck to be there so people could box up any items that they didn't sell so they didn't have to take items home if they didn't, could just donate them. Easy, very little up front work.
The following year, the PTO decided to also sell donated items (for people who didn't want to have their own garage sale, but wanted to donate items) to benefit our school along with the food sales, meaning me and another veteran PTO officer tried to let them know how much work would be needed up front to arrange for a place for the donated items, sort through the donated items, put the donated items on tables, sell the items, then box up the items to put in the VOA truck. Oh no, they didn't want to listen...so I didn't volunteer for that job, I just stuck with selling spaces and the food sales.
So I'm at the school on Thursday, and the parents are lining up to drop off their stuff for us to sell. The two ladies who were insistent about collecting donated items don't have enough help, so of course, I pitch in. At least half of the items were so musty and dirty, we just trashed them (mind you, this is after we already unloaded the boxes, stacked them on dollies, and stacked them back in a spare room. So after a few hours, we are done unloading, and now we need to sort all this stuff. People donate the most disgusting things.
I have to leave for something, and I return a couple of hours later, and the two ladies are so frustrated, I resisted the urge to say "I told you so" . The room smells of old musty clothes and a faint sweat smell. I go to lift up a box (just as the principal walks in) and cockroaches come pouring out of the box, at least 18. The other two ladies are freaking out, I'm skeeved out, but having worked for children services, trust me, I've seen cockroach infestations before. The principal just looks and says, GET THAT BOX OUT NOW. I grab the box and run down the hall with it and toss it outside.
I come back to the room, a few roaches are still running around, I'm stepping on them to kill them. After 30 seconds of this, I look up and the principal and the two ladies are looking at me like I am crazy, I say "What do you want me to do, just let them get around the school? Occupational hazard.
Needless to say, after that, the principal vetoed any further garage sales, which is a shame, keep the way it was the first time, it worked just fine.
Sounds great, right?
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Post by tania7424 on Aug 5, 2014 22:12:04 GMT
The worst part about serving on the pto board are all the people who are willing to share their opinions on how things *should* be run, but have zero intention of helping you actually do the work to get things done. You don't like the way we allocated funds and you just spent 20 minutes telling me why you didn't like it and how it should have been done...when you could have spent just a few extra minutes, come to the meeting and shared your input there where it might have made a difference. You complain that we had to pay a company to help set up one of the major fundraisers?? Trying volunteering to help with the set up and running of the silly thing and then we wouldn't have to pay someone else to do it. The list goes on and on. Complain, don't do anything, complain some more. Drove me nuts. Ha! There was a "parent info session" at school one night. It was actually a session that the principal scheduled on purpose so all the complainers could come be heard and just get it over with. Good idea really. So, me, being PTL President was there. One mom piped up with "Why don't we have a May Day committee for the maypole, parade, etc?". I told her that was a fantastic idea, asked for her name and email and told her she just earned herself a committee.
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Post by tania7424 on Aug 5, 2014 22:53:41 GMT
I am pretty sure finding volunteers is the bane of every PTO/PTA. A lot of private schools have gone to a "volunteer or pay" type system where they set a predetermined amount of time per family that the family either volunteers a set amount of time, or pays per hour they missed. The school my kids were at (K-8) finally had to implement this type of system because it was the same parents who volunteered EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. and were getting so burned out that they didn't want to do anything anymore. That allowed us to contract out some tasks and not have to fight volunteer fatigue. I am sitting on my hands right now because the very large school that my kids (well, now kid) attends has a note on their web page that says something to the effect of "because no one has been willing to volunteer, the PTO has to cease operations due to lack of interest." I have done the PTO thing across the board (room mom, various committees, VP Pres,) and it is killing me that no one else has stepped up. But at the same time, when we transferred to the school, I expressed an interest in helping out. I told the then president my background and asked how I could help, she looked at me and said in the snottiest tone I have ever heard "we would love it if you wrote a check!" That's it. Dismissed. She wasn't looking for help. So I suspect this is a problem she created and now the kids are going to be the losers. That's really sad. We actually call ourselves the PTL. And yes, I'm the president. And a room mom. I work my butt off at that school, but I enjoy it. I like being involved where my children go to school. That said, we do have a volunteer or pay system. It was to encourage people to volunteer more. There are some that just have no interest and pay the $200 per term. We even prorate it, so it's not like it is an all or nothing type thing. We cashed our largest amount of parent volunteer hour cheques in June. Our school population is growing as well, but still. You would think that means more help. But no. I can think of 10 moms off the top of my head right this moment I can text/FB or email and they will get something done for me. I'm having a heck of a time finding class moms for all the rooms too.
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Post by utmr on Aug 6, 2014 1:45:14 GMT
Several years ago I was very involved in the PTO. There was lots and lots of tension between SAHM and WOHM - bitter tension. Also between magnet and neighborhood parents. I cheerfully did the scut work that working moms get and published the newsletter (tons of work, lots of kudos from principal, other parents, etc), formatted financial reports, etc. Several times I was told "you should be treasurer."
About a year later, the Treasurer flaked and quit. The President sent out an "emergency" notice - a Treasurer was needed asap, crisis, crisis. I responded to her email within 10 minutes offering to do it. I followed up a week later - no response. Two weeks later - she replied "thank goodness we finally found a SAHM to do it. If you want a job you can have competitions (an awful thankless job)" I told her "no thanks, maybe you can find a SAHM to do that."
Treasurer [HASH]2 flaked out and I was approached again. Told them [HASH]$%#$% no, they could go find a SAHM. They said "no we really need an accountant" Yeah? No shit. I finally agreed, against my better judgment. It was a miserable 6 months, putting up with nonsense, check requests without receipts, requests for signed blank checks, etc. As it turned out, we changed schools the Friday before school started that year. So I packed everything up in a box and dumped it on the President's front porch. She never spoke to me again. Maybe Treasurer [HASH]4 was less of a flake.
I retired from PTO after that and never regretted it. I have spent the last six years saying no. "Can you ____?" No. "But think of the children!" No. "But we can't have/do ____ if the parents don't help!" Sucks for them, no. Last year I had a weak moment and offered to help the HS Band Boosters with something. Never heard back from the committee chair, the day before she called to tell me my assignment and time. No, sorry I never heard from you and now have plans.
Just say no.
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Post by monklady123 on Aug 6, 2014 1:59:38 GMT
I retired from PTO after that and never regretted it. I have spent the last six years saying no. "Can you ____?" No. "But think of the children!" No. "But we can't have/do ____ if the parents don't help!" Sucks for them, no. Last year I had a weak moment and offered to help the HS Band Boosters with something. Never heard back from the committee chair, the day before she called to tell me my assignment and time. No, sorry I never heard from you and now have plans. Just say no. Best paragraph from this whole thread. It bears repeating. A friend of mine who is a counselor told me once that one of the things she tries to teach clients, more than anything else, is "no is a complete sentence."
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Post by bluepoprocks on Aug 6, 2014 2:31:43 GMT
I don't have a story. I'm sure I do I just can't think of them right now. At our old school we were never involved with the PTO we just sold what they wanted. Then we sent them to Catholic school. Me and my sister are members of the PTO and volunteer for almost every fundraiser. I usually like it and have a good time helping out but sometimes I would like to say no. Can someone tell me how to say NO! to a nun.
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Post by tania7424 on Aug 6, 2014 2:51:15 GMT
We actually don't do fundraisers anymore. At least not obvious ones. We make money on bake sale, we make money on hot lunch. We don't have a cafeteria program at all, so once a month, they get hot lunch. Parents can order for their kids, and sometimes it's Mexican, sometimes it's a group of moms whipping out grilled cheese and soup, etc. We make around $2000/yr with each of those. We raised our membership fee to avoid fundraising and it was met with delight from everyone. No more chocolate sales! I had brunch with my treasurer (ha!) a couple weeks ago to set the budget for the upcoming school year and we actually are toying with the idea of starting a spirit shop. School gear they can wear outside of school and on dress down (non-uniform) days, and make a bit of profit on that.
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