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Post by myboysnme on Jun 29, 2014 1:36:18 GMT
I had read originally that he researched animal deaths in hot cars on his work computer. Guess they found more later on his computers at home.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 1:38:32 GMT
What an awful way to die. I wish sometimes our justice system allowed eye for an eye.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 1:41:43 GMT
There is a special place in Hell for people who hurt/kill children. Stories like this make me ill.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 1:44:43 GMT
This whole thing makes me sick. If it's true that he committed murder, I'd love to see the death penalty be death by hot car. Sometimes, the whole "eye for an eye" thing feels very appropriate. This. It's just incomprehensible that someone could do this to their child.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jun 29, 2014 1:50:30 GMT
This is the first I've heard of the story, but omg how awful is this? I can't wrap my brain around a parent killing their own child.
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Post by Rainbow on Jun 29, 2014 1:52:17 GMT
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Post by TankTop on Jun 29, 2014 1:56:12 GMT
That poor baby!
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Post by seikashaven on Jun 29, 2014 2:00:16 GMT
That makes me absolutely sick to think about. That poor precious baby.
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Post by peasapie on Jun 29, 2014 2:01:19 GMT
Sadly, there are many mentally ill people who have children in their care. I don't know this person's story, but he must be mentally unstable to do such a thing.
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Post by freecharlie on Jun 29, 2014 16:51:48 GMT
Sadly, there are many mentally ill people who have children in their care. I don't know this person's story, but he must be mentally unstable to do such a thing. I dont know that he was unstable. Seems the mother may have been in on it. She too was researching death by hot car before the child's death
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Post by miominmio on Jun 29, 2014 17:04:48 GMT
There is a special place in Hell for people who hurt/kill children. Stories like this make me ill. I hope so! I really, really hope so!
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Post by rxgal on Jun 29, 2014 17:17:29 GMT
This sounds really damning for him, but I have to say - it's a little scary to me too that he's being tried and hung in the public opinion based on his internet searches. I've searched those exact things in the past when the topic came up on NSBR. It's gruesome, but there were interesting and heartbreaking stories out there, which led me to google more, to read other things, etc.
I've searched some really crazy things online, and god forbid that should be the piece of evidence should a tragedy happened that put me away.
Now, the circumstances of his do sound a little different - I can guarantee you that I was hyper vigilant after reading the stories for at least a few months. But how far back do our google searches indict us? What if I searched something 2 years ago? What if I was reading about serial killers several times over the last few years? The internet is a rabbit hole, you go down one path and suddenly find yourself enthralled and asking google questions you never knew you wanted to know the answers to.
While I absolutely agree it appears bad for him, I just don't want to jump to conclusions because I know I have googled some whacked out shit and doing so doesn't make me immune to related tragedies happening in my life. For example, someone recently referenced a young widows message board. I googled it and started reading, I found it really interesting to understand what life is like for a young widow. I think it led me to googling some other things like "average life insurance" and "how much money does a young widow need." If an awful accident happened to DH, I hope those searches and web traffic wouldn't be used against me, even just among the public.
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Post by lovetodigi on Jun 29, 2014 17:44:31 GMT
They did release more of the warrant information today and so far, I haven't heard anything new other than his wife said that she also did the same internet searches. It was reported by one of the reporters that attended the funeral that the mother made a statement that she would not want to bring her son back into this selfish world. As a mother who has lost a son, that just seemed strange to me. I don't know the reason behind what happened, whether is was an accident or planned, but I do know that whatever the future brings, the Dad will live with what he did or didn't do for the rest of his life. That poor little boy.
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Post by myboysnme on Jun 29, 2014 17:52:29 GMT
I've been wanting to ask if anyone knows why a 22 month old was in a rear facing car seat? He's an average size toddler. I guess I would think a toddler would be facing forward, but it's been a long time since I had kids in car seats.
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Post by christine58 on Jun 29, 2014 18:13:17 GMT
Now there's a report that the MOTHER also researched toddlers dieing in hot cars...are you F-ing kidding me?
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Post by cropaholicnora on Jun 29, 2014 18:17:38 GMT
It was reported by one of the reporters that attended the funeral that the mother made a statement that she would not want to bring her son back into this selfish world. If that's how you feel about this world, why bring a child into it in the first place? I don't understand some people. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/mYSUyHtG9Jrcmm_ydVcK.jpg)
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Post by johnnysmom on Jun 29, 2014 18:22:20 GMT
I've been wanting to ask if anyone knows why a 22 month old was in a rear facing car seat? He's an average size toddler. I guess I would think a toddler would be facing forward, but it's been a long time since I had kids in car seats. The newest recommendations are to leave kids rear-facing as long as possible, but until at least 2 (though it's not the law most places). I think most carseats rear-face to 40lbs or so.
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Post by airforcemomof1 on Jun 29, 2014 21:25:46 GMT
I heard on some news channel the mother is standing by him and said what a great father he was. He was also able to "talk" from his jail cell to those at the funeral and thanked them for their support.
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Post by hop2 on Jun 29, 2014 21:35:38 GMT
Wasn't there a show like this on TV? The two parents had a special needs child and they plotted to allow the child to be killed by being left in a car. Gosh my memory is pretty bad but I can't remember if it was a tv movie or one the crime 'news' shows that goes from start to finish with controversial crimes.
I don't get how any one could do that to their own child.
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Post by cannes on Jun 29, 2014 21:40:34 GMT
I can't comprehend how someone could deliberately kill their child this way. I just can't. Horrible, horrible story.
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Post by zoeybug on Jun 29, 2014 21:46:22 GMT
I know there's a lot of evil in the world, and that it is possible that this man deliberately killed his son. But I'm hoping that's not the case, and I'm not convinced yet. I've googled hot car deaths, out of curiosity when I've seen cases reported and to see if something like cracking the windows a bit would keep a car cooler. I've googled lots of other things, too, many as a direct result of things I've read on 2peas, even. I'd hate to be judged by my Google searches! I've also forgotten to drop my child at daycare - fortunately I noticed her in the back seat as I got out of the car and then drove 15 miles back towards home to drop her off. I think both police and family are being quiet on what they may know, which is fine with me. I'm withholding judgment for now. I hope this man did not deliberately harm his child, and I hope he is not punished for having done so if it was truly an accident. But if this was a purposeful killing, then I think he deserves whatever he gets, because I can think of little worse than a parent killing an innocent, defenseless child. I really hope you're right but I have this sinking feeling that he really is that even. It just seems to coincidental with the timing- it was like just days before he actually left that poor baby in the car that he was "researching" this. I feel bad for his wife...she seems to be in complete denial and who wouldn't be?? I don think any of us would want to think the father of our child would be capable of such a cruel, calculating act.
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Post by shevy on Jun 29, 2014 21:47:03 GMT
You don't want something/want to care and love and protect it, don't have it. Baby, dog, cat...doesn't matter. You choose, you become responsible. Makes me so angry.
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Post by ~Sherri~ on Jun 29, 2014 22:01:07 GMT
A comment left on one of the news sites stated that the dad parked on the top level of the parking lot, full sun, where employees seldom parked, according to other employees. Has anyone else read about this?
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Post by newlywoods03 on Jun 29, 2014 22:04:31 GMT
So so sad! That poor innocent little boy. I can't even begin to imagine how a parent could hurt/kill their own children.
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Post by simplekelly on Jun 29, 2014 22:13:22 GMT
What I don't understand is why he didn't see his son when he went out to his car midday. If what we are reading is true, that he wanted to kill his son, I'm sick thinking that when he visited his car, his son hadn't died yet. I just don't understand plotting to kill children, or other humans etc.
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Post by lovetodigi on Jun 29, 2014 22:20:12 GMT
A comment left on one of the news sites stated that the dad parked on the top level of the parking lot, full sun, where employees seldom parked, according to other employees. Has anyone else read about this? There will be all kinds of rumors and then there will be truths. Who knows where this information falls. I did hear the police say that there were different parking areas, some covered, some not. That was on the news when they were interviewing an officer right after it happened. They did not say, at that time, where he had parked at. I feel like there has to be more that the police know than they are releasing to the public for them to arrest the dad like they did and then not even let him attend the funeral. I still would like to know why they were mentioning antifreeze and waiting for toxicology reports on the news a few days ago. I did not hear the whole report, but it is puzzling that they would mention that one thing. Then again, maybe not. Sometimes they just speculate. We probably won't know all of the facts that they based the arrest on, until it goes to court. My heart breaks for that precious little boy that will never get the chance to grow up.
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Post by Rhondito on Jun 29, 2014 22:20:52 GMT
It's dumbfounding to me that an IT worker would be so careless in regard to the computer searches. I think they (mom and dad) thought they had a full-proof plan that would be believed with little to no questions raised. And so they were sloppy.
There is no punishment that would be too cruel for them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 22:55:40 GMT
What a heartbreaking story,that poor poor child.
I cannot comprehend how anyone could FORGET that they had a child in the car with them. The child was 22 months,they chatter in their own little way, they move...kick their legs,move their arms and such like, even if they are strapped in a seat.How could anyone forget that they are there? And then to forget about him for another seven hours.......I really cannot fathom out how ANYONE can do that,I really can't!
Leaving aside any computer evidence that they have found, I could never consider that this could ever have been an accident.
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Post by Outspoken on Jun 29, 2014 22:57:23 GMT
If it is found that this was intentional, I hope that the father or both parents don't use mental defect as a defense. Because, while I think they have issues, I believe they know right from wrong and if evidence is accurate this sounds premeditated.
My heart is heavy!
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Post by stampnscrap1128 on Jun 29, 2014 23:05:15 GMT
The story makes my heart ache for the child as well as for the grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. who loved that child. What a horrific thought - that one's own son and/or daughter murdered their child/your grandchild. ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png)
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