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Post by monklady123 on Sept 9, 2016 14:46:00 GMT
For those of you who say you've never heard of Aleppo do you not watch the news or read a newspaper? I'm not being judgmental, I hope, but I'm curious how people today could be completely unaware of these things given all that's gone on. Did you not see this poor little boy's story on every news channel? Little boy after Aleppo bombing
Yeah, on second thought I'm sure I am coming off as judgmental. I apologize in advance for that, but I just don't understand how people can say they've never heard of something that's been on the news so much. And personally I think that knowing what's going on in the world is a responsibility we have as citizens of this global society. And I don't give any presidential candidate a pass on any of this. If you are running for president of the United States you need to hire people who can brief you on current events and the history of those current events. If you've gotten this far in the race and haven't done that then you are an idiot. Yeah, I'm annoyed at several things today. <---- eyeoll at myself SaveSave
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Post by annabella on Sept 9, 2016 14:46:28 GMT
So those of you who don't know don't follow much news? It's talked about on tv news pretty much every day here and that's apart from radio, papers, online news etc. You're talking about British news to a bunch of Americans?
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 9, 2016 14:47:55 GMT
So those of you who don't know don't follow much news? It's talked about on tv news pretty much every day here and that's apart from radio, papers, online news etc. You're talking about British news to a bunch of Americans? Also on every American channel and in the papers. SaveSave
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 9, 2016 14:49:00 GMT
So those of you who don't know don't follow much news? It's talked about on tv news pretty much every day here and that's apart from radio, papers, online news etc. Lol. I posted my own similar question before I read yours. SaveSave
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Post by Nink on Sept 9, 2016 14:54:09 GMT
I will freely admit that I have never heard of it until this post either. I don't watch tv, as I don't have cable. And I don't get/read the paper. When someone above posted about the image of the little boy, I do remember seeing that on FB, but don't remember reading an actual account of what happened.
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Post by annabella on Sept 9, 2016 15:03:02 GMT
Also on every American channel and in the papers. It's really not on local news which most people watch. I'm well versed in the situation and feel it's not covered much. Not if you're watching World News with Lester Holt or CNN that may be different, but I just catch the 6pm local news. That little boy I saw on the Today show. As evident by the number of people in this thread that haven't heard of it, it's not well covered. I get a daily email from the Wash Post which just lists the top 10 stories of the day and has covered Syrian refugees but not any attacks this summer. Obviously someone well versed in the news would get the paper, but I think the average person catches the news from TV as newspaper readership is in decline.
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Post by lindas on Sept 9, 2016 15:03:42 GMT
For those of you who say you've never heard of Aleppo do you not watch the news or read a newspaper? I'm not being judgmental, I hope, but I'm curious how people today could be completely unaware of these things given all that's gone on. Did you not see this poor little boy's story on every news channel? Little boy after Aleppo bombing
Yeah, on second thought I'm sure I am coming off as judgmental. I apologize in advance for that, but I just don't understand how people can say they've never heard of something that's been on the news so much. And personally I think that knowing what's going on in the world is a responsibility we have as citizens of this global society. And I don't give any presidential candidate a pass on any of this. If you are running for president of the United States you need to hire people who can brief you on current events and the history of those current events. If you've gotten this far in the race and haven't done that then you are an idiot. Yeah, I'm annoyed at several things today. <---- eyeoll at myself SaveSaveI agree with you. How in the world can you be an informed voter if you don't watch or read the news.
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Post by gar on Sept 9, 2016 15:09:56 GMT
So those of you who don't know don't follow much news? It's talked about on tv news pretty much every day here and that's apart from radio, papers, online news etc. You're talking about British news to a bunch of Americans? Syria is British news??? You're not trying to tell me that it's not being covered in the US, surely?
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Post by freebird on Sept 9, 2016 15:10:02 GMT
For those of you who say you've never heard of Aleppo do you not watch the news or read a newspaper? I'm not being judgmental, I hope, but I'm curious how people today could be completely unaware of these things given all that's gone on. Did you not see this poor little boy's story on every news channel? Little boy after Aleppo bombing
Yeah, on second thought I'm sure I am coming off as judgmental. I apologize in advance for that, but I just don't understand how people can say they've never heard of something that's been on the news so much. And personally I think that knowing what's going on in the world is a responsibility we have as citizens of this global society. And I don't give any presidential candidate a pass on any of this. If you are running for president of the United States you need to hire people who can brief you on current events and the history of those current events. If you've gotten this far in the race and haven't done that then you are an idiot. Yeah, I'm annoyed at several things today. <---- eyeoll at myself SaveSaveSaid in my nicest voice ever. If Aleppo is such a big deal to the entire world (and I believe those that say that it is), then why has there only been like 7 threads the word "Aleppo" has been used on this forum since it's inception, 3 of them in the past few days? I don't read the papers, I don't watch the news. I pick up on things here and there online as I'm doing other things. The news stresses us out greatly so we decided (my husband and myself - and he's the most informed person I know) to stop watching it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 15:14:24 GMT
I would suggest that the way the question was asked may have threw him off. The tone of the question was kind of light-hearted, as if Aleppo was equivalent to Pokemon. Had the interviewer asked what he would do about Syria and he had the same response, that would give me extreme pause. I think there are plenty of other positions of Gary Johnson that are deal breakers for me. I would hate to be a politician in this day and age. Media has become more about "gotcha" than journalism IMO. I have to disagree. The presenter asked him quite clearly and in no way light hearted " what would you do if elected about Allepo". Considering that among other things over the last couple of weeks the Syrian Government with help from Russian war planes have been accused of dropping chlorine gas in Allepo and that there's also been an open letter from a number of medical Doctors in Allepo to President Obama, asking for help in securing a cease fire and to stop the bombs dropped by the Syrian Government on civilians (which included a hospital) so that humanitarian aid is delivered, I'm at a loss to try and understand that as a Presidential candidate he wouldn't know the name Allepo with so much happening there. This wasn't a " gotcha" moment it was a very serious question about a very serious situation. It beggars belief that he had no understanding of the name and even less knowledge of what is going on there which was very apparent with this quote.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 15:15:12 GMT
Before the picture of the little boy after a bombing, I couldn't tell you where Aleppo was. I've known about the situation with Syria for a while but honestly, I didn't remember all of the cities/towns mentioned. Some articles I've read glossed over the city's name and often just said Syria. I've put the two together recently.
I'm not an avid news watcher. I find links to stories I don't always see being covered on my local station here. I admit that sometimes I go to Facebook's trending news to see what's going on and will click on multiple sources to see if one source adds something another source didn't.
If someone is serious about running our country and is trying to be added to the debates, then yes, I expect them to be more informed than the average Joe (me).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 15:18:20 GMT
I don't. But then again, I'm not running for President nor do I study much about ISIS. If it were my job to be well versed on those things, I would be. I would suggest that you do a little research if you think that Allepo is all about ISIS it might surprise you that the Syrian Government with the help of Russia is equally to blame as to what is now going on in Syria.
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Post by gar on Sept 9, 2016 15:20:14 GMT
For those of you who say you've never heard of Aleppo do you not watch the news or read a newspaper? I'm not being judgmental, I hope, but I'm curious how people today could be completely unaware of these things given all that's gone on. Did you not see this poor little boy's story on every news channel? Little boy after Aleppo bombing
Yeah, on second thought I'm sure I am coming off as judgmental. I apologize in advance for that, but I just don't understand how people can say they've never heard of something that's been on the news so much. And personally I think that knowing what's going on in the world is a responsibility we have as citizens of this global society. And I don't give any presidential candidate a pass on any of this. If you are running for president of the United States you need to hire people who can brief you on current events and the history of those current events. If you've gotten this far in the race and haven't done that then you are an idiot. Yeah, I'm annoyed at several things today. <---- eyeoll at myself SaveSaveSaid in my nicest voice ever. If Aleppo is such a big deal to the entire world (and I believe those that say that it is), then why has there only been like 7 threads the word "Aleppo" has been used on this forum since it's inception, 3 of them in the past few days? I don't read the papers, I don't watch the news. I pick up on things here and there online as I'm doing other things. The news stresses us out greatly so we decided (my husband and myself - and he's the most informed person I know) to stop watching it. You tell me? How can your media not cover this absolute tragedy of a war???
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Post by georgiapea on Sept 9, 2016 15:21:05 GMT
Nope, no clue. Don't know who Gary Johnson is either. Allepo to me would be Alpo dog food in another language.
ETA: Someone asked if we who do not know don't watch news or read newspapers. Yep, that would be me.
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Post by monklady123 on Sept 9, 2016 15:23:19 GMT
Said in my nicest voice ever. If Aleppo is such a big deal to the entire world (and I believe those that say that it is), then why has there only been like 7 threads the word "Aleppo" has been used on this forum since it's inception, 3 of them in the past few days? I don't read the papers, I don't watch the news. I pick up on things here and there online as I'm doing other things. The news stresses us out greatly so we decided (my husband and myself - and he's the most informed person I know) to stop watching it. You tell me? How can your media not cover this absolute tragedy of a war??? Gar, it does. The local news out in Podunk Wherever [Americanism for "out in the middle of nowhere, small town...] may not have it on their own news but our national news, which is broadcast nationalwide (hence the name "national", lol) has covered it, of course. We always watch the ABC national news here and of course they've talked about it for ages and ages. SaveSave
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Post by Sarah*H on Sept 9, 2016 15:24:22 GMT
IMO, it's the equivalent of someone asking Bill Clinton if he knew where Sarajevo was and getting a blank stare which means it's inexcusable. I understand that regular people can choose to live a small, uninformed life as a conscious choice but someone who wants to be President of the United States doesn't have that luxury. And that's all I have to say about that before I venture into territory that isn't related Gary Johnson.
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Post by Sarah*H on Sept 9, 2016 15:26:12 GMT
It does but not always very well and certainly not like it used to when the networks were willing to invest real money in overseas bureaus and reporters. But anyone who doesn't know about it is making a conscious decision to remain uninformed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 15:29:07 GMT
So those of you who don't know don't follow much news? It's talked about on tv news pretty much every day here and that's apart from radio, papers, online news etc. You're talking about British news to a bunch of Americans? Are you saying that you ( general you ) are so damn insular that you don't broadcast or print any world news, I'm sorry I don't believe that!
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Post by gar on Sept 9, 2016 15:30:50 GMT
You tell me? How can your media not cover this absolute tragedy of a war??? Gar, it does. The local news out in Podunk Wherever [Americanism for "out in the middle of nowhere, small town...] may not have it on their own news but our national news, which is broadcast nationalwide (hence the name "national", lol) has covered it, of course. We always watch the ABC national news here and of course they've talked about it for ages and ages. SaveSaveI guessed it had to be....it'd be unthinkable that it wasn't. So if someone consciously chooses to ignore/avoid vast human tragedy that's one thing...for a politian it's just unacceptable or unfathomable.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 9, 2016 15:43:10 GMT
Gar, it does. The local news out in Podunk Wherever [Americanism for "out in the middle of nowhere, small town...] may not have it on their own news but our national news, which is broadcast nationalwide (hence the name "national", lol) has covered it, of course. We always watch the ABC national news here and of course they've talked about it for ages and ages. SaveSaveI guessed it had to be....it'd be unthinkable that it wasn't. So if someone consciously chooses to ignore/avoid vast human tragedy that's one thing...for a politian it's just unacceptable or unfathomable. This is what annoys me. He blanked on Aleppo. As soon as the host mentioned Syria, he discussed the issue. I might not have termed it "joining hands" but I agree with him that until we get Russia on board we won't see and end to the violence there. There is zero evidence that he has chosen to ignore Syria. He couldn't immediately place the name with Syria. I notice that everyone is ready to draw and quarter him for that - but not a single person chose to respond to my comment about the President of the United States of America not knowing that three major cities on the Atlantic coast aren't in the gulf. People are more than willing to give a pass to someone they support - but are there with pitch forks to someone they either don't know or don't like.
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Post by annabella on Sept 9, 2016 15:44:23 GMT
If Aleppo is such a big deal to the entire world (and I believe those that say that it is), then why has there only been like 7 threads the word "Aleppo" has been used on this forum since it's inception, 3 of them in the past few days? What a scary thought, you think the number of threads on 2peas dictates whether or not something is important in the world. Yikes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 15:49:52 GMT
Thank goodness our current political leaders know and have been able to keep things from really getting out of hand there.
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 9, 2016 15:50:30 GMT
I guessed it had to be....it'd be unthinkable that it wasn't. So if someone consciously chooses to ignore/avoid vast human tragedy that's one thing...for a politian it's just unacceptable or unfathomable. This is what annoys me. He blanked on Aleppo. As soon as the host mentioned Syria, he discussed the issue. I might not have termed it "joining hands" but I agree with him that until we get Russia on board we won't see and end to the violence there. There is zero evidence that he has chosen to ignore Syria. He couldn't immediately place the name with Syria. I notice that everyone is ready to draw and quarter him for that - but not a single person chose to respond to my comment about the President of the United States of America not knowing that three major cities on the Atlantic coast aren't in the gulf. People are more than willing to give a pass to someone they support - but are there with pitch forks to someone they either don't know or don't like. I do vaguely remember this. But I think, at least in my case, we noticed but were more focused on the idea that they wanted to put more deep wells in the gulf-which is something that I am fundamentally against. I probably heard him talk about the cities in question, but only HEARD him (and others) talk about building more oil derricks in the Gulf of Mexico and tuned out all the rest.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Sept 9, 2016 15:52:05 GMT
i'd venture to say - that most people i know - do not know what Aleppo is - and depending on the context of the conversation - i'dd probably have to stop and think a minute but not if i were a candidate - gina ^^^ yup, this is me. I listen to general news on NPR, but I don't pay attention to specific (as in, names of specific cities, etc.) geography enough to remember them later.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Sept 9, 2016 15:55:24 GMT
This is what annoys me. He blanked on Aleppo. As soon as the host mentioned Syria, he discussed the issue. I might not have termed it "joining hands" but I agree with him that until we get Russia on board we won't see and end to the violence there. There is zero evidence that he has chosen to ignore Syria. He couldn't immediately place the name with Syria. I notice that everyone is ready to draw and quarter him for that - but not a single person chose to respond to my comment about the President of the United States of America not knowing that three major cities on the Atlantic coast aren't in the gulf. People are more than willing to give a pass to someone they support - but are there with pitch forks to someone they either don't know or don't like. I do vaguely remember this. But I think, at least in my case, we noticed but were more focused on the idea that they wanted to put more deep wells in the gulf-which is something that I am fundamentally against. I probably heard him talk about the cities in question, but only HEARD him (and others) talk about building more oil derricks in the Gulf of Mexico and tuned out all the rest. Actually it was in relation to parking tankers: www.politico.com/story/2013/08/jay-leno-obama-interview-transcript-video-95279_Page2.htmlAnd you're not alone - it received essentially zero press. I find the double standard interesting.
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Post by freebird on Sept 9, 2016 16:00:01 GMT
Said in my nicest voice ever. If Aleppo is such a big deal to the entire world (and I believe those that say that it is), then why has there only been like 7 threads the word "Aleppo" has been used on this forum since it's inception, 3 of them in the past few days? I don't read the papers, I don't watch the news. I pick up on things here and there online as I'm doing other things. The news stresses us out greatly so we decided (my husband and myself - and he's the most informed person I know) to stop watching it. You tell me? How can your media not cover this absolute tragedy of a war??? You missed the part where I'm not actually watching the news to tell you if it's covered or not.
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Post by anxiousmom on Sept 9, 2016 16:00:24 GMT
I do vaguely remember this. But I think, at least in my case, we noticed but were more focused on the idea that they wanted to put more deep wells in the gulf-which is something that I am fundamentally against. I probably heard him talk about the cities in question, but only HEARD him (and others) talk about building more oil derricks in the Gulf of Mexico and tuned out all the rest. Actually it was in relation to parking tankers: www.politico.com/story/2013/08/jay-leno-obama-interview-transcript-video-95279_Page2.htmlAnd you're not alone - it received essentially zero press. I find the double standard interesting. See.. that is precisely where I was going. We (my family) are all cranky pants about oil in the gulf, and when he was talking about it, there was also a larger conversation going on about trying to expand oil exploration and we latched on to that like fleas on a dog. To the exclusion of all else. (not a good thing either.) But I agree. The double standards are fascinating.
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Post by DEX on Sept 9, 2016 16:02:08 GMT
Thank goodness our current political leaders know and have been able to keep things from really getting out of hand there. Is that tongue in cheek? Because I snorted. And no, that is not an Obama bash, it is more of an observation about the state of the Middle East.
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Post by breetheflea on Sept 9, 2016 16:03:48 GMT
I choose not to watch the news (the TV especially) but will pick up things here and there from Facebook or on this forum. I knew about what is going on in Syria, but not Aleppo specifically until this week. The news is depressing and even stories about local things freak my kids out so I do not regret my uninformedness.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2016 16:04:16 GMT
Thank goodness our current political leaders know and have been able to keep things from really getting out of hand there. Is that tongue in cheek? Because I snorted. And no, that is not an Obama bash, it is more of an observation about the state of the Middle East. Yes, it is tongue in cheek. And it is not aimed at only the U.S.'s current political leaders, but all of them. Save
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