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Post by tduby1 on Sept 14, 2016 19:35:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 20:15:35 GMT
I read it too and does look like he is being brought up before some Board on charges. So it sounds pretty accurate. And the claim that he doesn't know because he didn't live there for some time is RIDICULOUS!
I am about tired of Male judges discriminating in the favor of males in rape/sexual assault cases. No, I don't think they should be considered guilty before trial, but this assumption that the female ask for it or could have done something about it PISSES ME OFF! Maybe because I never got my day in court... they never found my scumbag (stranger in my home)..... I guess I was asking for it because I had my windows open?!?
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 14, 2016 20:25:47 GMT
I read about this several days ago and wondered just how long he would be a judge.
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Post by tduby1 on Sept 14, 2016 20:35:00 GMT
I read it too and does look like he is being brought up before some Board on charges. So it sounds pretty accurate. And the claim that he doesn't know because he didn't live there for some time is RIDICULOUS!
I am about tired of Male judges discriminating in the favor of males in rape/sexual assault cases. No, I don't think they should be considered guilty before trial, but this assumption that the female ask for it or could have done something about it PISSES ME OFF! Maybe because I never got my day in court... they never found my scumbag (stranger in my home)..... I guess I was asking for it because I had my windows open?!?
eta: I am not Canadian but have been a SA victim..... I am Interested in everyone's thoughts, not just Canadians'. I am sorry that happened to you. |
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Post by refugeepea on Sept 14, 2016 20:41:58 GMT
I wonder what the process for becoming a judge is in Canada? Are they voted in like in the U.S? Would petitions to make him resign work? What I cannot get over is how he said he was from South Africa and not familiar with Canadian laws. Ummm. what? You are a judge in Canada.
"The South African-born judge said he didn't receive training on sex assault cases. In his legal career, he focused mostly on contract and bankruptcy cases, he said.
"My colleagues knew my knowledge of Canadian law was very minimal. It was non-existent," he said at the hearing Friday. "Please remember I wasn't in this country through the 1960s, '70s and '80s."
Then what the hell was he doing in the court room? I also call B.S. that it's because he's from South Africa. It's the year 2016!
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Post by lucyg on Sept 14, 2016 20:44:25 GMT
I read it too and does look like he is being brought up before some Board on charges. So it sounds pretty accurate. And the claim that he doesn't know because he didn't live there for some time is RIDICULOUS!
I am about tired of Male judges discriminating in the favor of males in rape/sexual assault cases. No, I don't think they should be considered guilty before trial, but this assumption that the female ask for it or could have done something about it PISSES ME OFF! Maybe because I never got my day in court... they never found my scumbag (stranger in my home)..... I guess I was asking for it because I had my windows open?!?
eta: I am not Canadian but have been a SA victim..... I Liked your post not because I really liked it, but to share my sympathy. Hugs to you. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 20:53:29 GMT
That statement is so sickening I don't even know where to start.
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Post by craftykitten on Sept 14, 2016 20:55:55 GMT
IIRC the judge's daughter has also been a victim of sexual assault. And she's defending him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 21:53:55 GMT
Huh. I wonder why no rape victim ever thought of that? I mean, it's so very simple. Knees together, no rape. This is could totally revolutionize self-defense classes. No heel of the hand to the nose, no knee to the groin. Just keep your knees closed.  In case anyone didn't detect the sarcasm dripping from my post, I just wanted to show how ridiculous - RIDICULOUS- the judge's comments were. He should be removed. |
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Post by tduby1 on Sept 14, 2016 22:16:34 GMT
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Post by trollie on Sept 14, 2016 22:20:28 GMT
So unbelievably sickening.
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Post by leannec on Sept 14, 2016 22:25:11 GMT
This is local to me and has been in the news for awhile now ... Judges are not voted into the position here in Canada so it has nothing to do with politics ... This man has obviously said some terrible things (he seems to have no filter) and his career, thankfully, will never be the same ... the case is still in the courts ... I'm a survivor of sexual abuse, which I have been open about to the Peas, and I find his statements to be despicable  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 22:27:45 GMT
"The South African-born judge said he didn't receive training on sex assault cases. In his legal career, he focused mostly on contract and bankruptcy cases, he said. "My colleagues knew my knowledge of Canadian law was very minimal. It was non-existent," he said at the hearing Friday. "Please remember I wasn't in this country through the 1960s, '70s and '80s." WTF?  Looks like Canada has its fair share of unsuitable judges, too. |
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Post by theshyone on Sept 14, 2016 22:33:34 GMT
It's disgusting: he is up before a review panel. He claims to know nothing of Canadian criminal law, as he is a SA immigrant, even during testimony at the review panel he referred to the victim as the accused. He needs removed as judge and disbarred.
Judges are appointed. Been much talk it was the "old boys club" from Calgary including our former prime minister that got him the appointment. Oil & gas connections were powerful. I don't know if that is only rumour, or rumour based on fact, or true, but is feasible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 22:34:45 GMT
This is local to me and has been in the news for awhile now ... Judges are not voted into the position here in Canada so it has nothing to do with politics ... This man has obviously said some terrible things (he seems to have no filter) and his career, thankfully, will never be the same ... the case is still in the courts ... I'm a survivor of sexual abuse, which I have been open about to the Peas, and I find his statements to be despicable Good. I wish we could say that about judges like Aaron Persky |
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Post by tduby1 on Sept 15, 2016 0:11:52 GMT
This is local to me and has been in the news for awhile now ... Judges are not voted into the position here in Canada so it has nothing to do with politics ... This man has obviously said some terrible things (he seems to have no filter) and his career, thankfully, will never be the same ... the case is still in the courts ... I'm a survivor of sexual abuse, which I have been open about to the Peas, and I find his statements to be despicable I am sorry you experienced sexual abuse. Thank you for weighing in as a Canadian. |
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Post by vronn on Sept 15, 2016 0:38:26 GMT
I've been following this story, since it's local to me as well. He's an insentive and ignorant ass. I hope he's kicked off the bench and sent back to South Africa.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Sept 15, 2016 0:40:15 GMT
I saw this the other day and was sickened. He did come back and say he didn't really know that type of law--I think I saw that he was from a different country/culture?
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Post by needtime2scrap on Sept 15, 2016 0:47:53 GMT
I can't believe his statements! Makes me so angry! The excuse that he didn't know the law is bs as a judge he should know the law!
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Post by AussieMeg on Sept 15, 2016 1:04:09 GMT
"The South African-born judge said he didn't receive training on sex assault cases. In his legal career, he focused mostly on contract and bankruptcy cases, he said. "My colleagues knew my knowledge of Canadian law was very minimal. It was non-existent," he said at the hearing Friday. "Please remember I wasn't in this country through the 1960s, '70s and '80s." That's one of the most fucked up excuses I've ever read. Is he saying that because he wasn't living in Canada in the 60s, 70s and 80s he wasn't to know that he shouldn't tell rape victims to just "keep their knees closed"? And that perhaps in South Africa that is a most acceptable response? And if his knowledge of Canadian law was "non-existent" as he claims, how the everloving fuck did he ever become a judge?!?! |
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Post by mlynn on Sept 15, 2016 5:41:37 GMT
I am wondering if he might be muslim. His view of rape seems compatible with theirs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 5:46:25 GMT
I am wondering if he might be muslim. His view of rape seems compatible with theirs.  |
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Post by Mary Kay Lady on Sept 15, 2016 7:11:22 GMT
I read it too and does look like he is being brought up before some Board on charges. So it sounds pretty accurate. And the claim that he doesn't know because he didn't live there for some time is RIDICULOUS!
I am about tired of Male judges discriminating in the favor of males in rape/sexual assault cases. No, I don't think they should be considered guilty before trial, but this assumption that the female ask for it or could have done something about it PISSES ME OFF! Maybe because I never got my day in court... they never found my scumbag (stranger in my home)..... I guess I was asking for it because I had my windows open?!?
eta: I am not Canadian but have been a SA victim..... Wishididnthaveto, I'm sorry that you've had the horrible experience of being a survivor of sexual assault. (((HUGS))) to you. |
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Post by lesserknownpea on Sept 15, 2016 7:36:39 GMT
I was so disgusted wh n I read this. And people wonder why the majority of sexual assault victims will not press charges.
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Post by gar on Sept 15, 2016 10:58:09 GMT
"The South African-born judge said he didn't receive training on sex assault cases. In his legal career, he focused mostly on contract and bankruptcy cases, he said. "My colleagues knew my knowledge of Canadian law was very minimal. It was non-existent," he said at the hearing Friday. "Please remember I wasn't in this country through the 1960s, '70s and '80s." That's one of the most fucked up excuses I've ever read. Is he saying that because he wasn't living in Canada in the 60s, 70s and 80s he wasn't to know that he shouldn't tell rape victims to just "keep their knees closed"? And that perhaps in South Africa that is a most acceptable response? And if his knowledge of Canadian law was "non-existent" as he claims, how the everloving fuck did he ever become a judge?!?! Yeah, that! You don't need to know anything about the laws of any country to know that saying that is disgusting and entirely unacceptable. |
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Post by gloryjoy on Sept 15, 2016 12:41:52 GMT
I can't believe his statements! Makes me so angry! The excuse that he didn't know the law is bs as a judge he should know the law! If you are going to be a judge in Canada, then you should know Canadian law like the back of your hand. |
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 15, 2016 15:02:15 GMT
Someone ought to ram a broom handle up that judge's ass and then tell him if he had just stayed seated it wouldn't have happened.
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Post by beebee on Sept 15, 2016 15:31:49 GMT
That judge should be removed immediately. No excuses if that is true.
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Post by peano on Sept 15, 2016 15:59:51 GMT
I am wondering if he might be muslim. His view of rape seems compatible with theirs. Seriously? Yes, I read about this case yesterday. There's so much wrong with that judge and his appointment to the bench, I don't even know where to start. |
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Post by vspindler on Sept 15, 2016 23:14:10 GMT
It isn't an unheard of mentality in the US criminal justice system. I've been working for a sexual assault agency this summer and one area they have been pushing is the testing of more rape kits. A surprising number of rape kits were not sent on because the victim was not considered credible. Included in being "not credible" was LEO's belief that the victim didn't try hard enough to resist. The victim may not even be aware they kit was never sent for testing.
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