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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:15:53 GMT
UPDATE: Thank you all for your input! Just finished attaching sparkly streamers to the fence every few feet, sprinkling deer repellent along the fence line, and shaving irish spring along the fence line. It's a pretty inexpensive fix, if it works. If it doesn't, I'll have to start getting quotes for higher fencing. It's just such a long fence, it'll be pricey. I priced motion sprinklers - $85 each. I keep thinking she'll move along with her fawn, but maybe not. Thanks again.
I live on a street where we all have long narrow pieces of property, about 3/4 acre each. My backyard is fenced, but it's a short fence. My backyard is manicured with a sitting area, badminton net, barbecue, etc. We love it out there, as does our little rescue chiweenie, Stuey. Stuey weighs 9 pounds - he's a cute little cuddly piece of the family, we adore him. Stuey loves to sunbathe and stroll the yard. He hasn't been able to for months now.
Our neighbor's yard is a full-on forest. No landscaping whatsoever. He's 89 and has apparently lived there like 50 years, so I'm told, and has never groomed the yard. We moved to this house this past November. A few months ago as I was lounging outside with Stuey, a deer jumped from other guy's property into my backyard and ran after Stuey. Stuey made alien noises and immediately rolled over on his back (submission?). The deer put its front hooves together and stomped on him. I couldn't get there fast enough to prevent it. She slightly missed, thankfully, and just grazed him. He was ok. She came over the fence several times after that, when Stuey was in the yard, and ran for him, but I was keeping him close and was able to scare her away.
I called animal control back then and they informed that there's nothing I could do. They said that she probably had babies back there and is being very protective, and that she'll move on when the babies are ready. So there ended Stuey's freedom...we've taken him out on a leash only for months, waiting for the increasingly aggressive deer to 'move on'.
I was starting to doubt the baby theory but then saw them, finally, about 3 weeks ago - Animal Control was right! The babies are so cute. Thanks for hanging in here... Here's the issue - she hasn't moved on. Babies are walking, following her around the neighborhood, but they always return to the neighbors backyard jungle. The mama still jumps the fence and is aggressive toward me. I was sitting outside last week, with my back to the yard (never do that gain), my face in my phone, when I heard breathing. She was standing right behind me. Was she getting ready to pounce? Idk. I shit myself.
How do I get her to move on? I want my yard back. Stuey wants his outside time. How old do the babies need to be before she's comfortable moving on? Approaching the neighbor for help is not an option. He's EXTREMELY grumpy and from what I'm told, you do not want to communicate with him in any way.
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Post by River on Aug 7, 2014 16:20:27 GMT
The only solution I can think of besides putting up a higher fence that can't be jumped is maybe feeding them far away from your yard. You would have to get the neighbors permission to go on his land and make sure it's during off hunting season.
Best of luck to you and be safe. Deer can be dangerous at times.
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Post by sisterbdsq on Aug 7, 2014 16:21:18 GMT
This isn't an animal control issue it's a CODE issue. Have you not called code enforcement?
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 7, 2014 16:22:44 GMT
Wow. I would have never guess that a deer would be that aggressive. Your poor Stuey!
I wonder if you can string some wire up on poles over your fence? I wouldn't want to hurt the deer, but if it's menacing dogs and people, I would try something. I don't know that you can blame your neighbor--obviously his yard has been that way for quite some time and he's happy with it. I would just try for some barrier with your fence. The babies must be very close to your yard. Maybe you can play load music to roust them out?
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Post by kels99 on Aug 7, 2014 16:33:43 GMT
I think baby deer stay with their mom for quite a while, maybe a year.
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Post by sharlag on Aug 7, 2014 16:36:45 GMT
Hmmm.... I would want to shoot a wild animal that came into my yard and attacked my pets.
I know that isn't probably a viable answer, but damn!
Is it your fence to modify? I'd be adding something to it to make the deer heed it.
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Post by mama2three on Aug 7, 2014 16:40:21 GMT
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Post by akathy on Aug 7, 2014 16:40:48 GMT
Yikes! I'd be putting up a higher fence.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:43:30 GMT
Just get deer fencing. Problem solved. That's really the only way you can keep deer off your property.
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Post by Judy26 on Aug 7, 2014 16:44:09 GMT
Try finding some windmill type toys and/or wind chimes that move and make noise and attach them to the top of the fence every few feet. She will probably be afraid of the sound and movement and avoid the fence line.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:45:14 GMT
This isn't an animal control issue it's a CODE issue. Have you not called code enforcement? Not necessarily. In many areas, especially rural ones, there is no code requirement to make one's property a "yard." |
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Post by anxiousmom on Aug 7, 2014 16:50:11 GMT
Another option is skipping the police and calling your state's version of wild life management. They will have patrol officers that can deal with nuisance wildlife. In Florida, the game commission officers are vested in the state constitution for their law enforcement powers so they have jurisdiction every where and in all matters (the only ones.) This would mean that they would be able to act against aggressive wildlife AND your neighbor to possibly make it so that his property isn't attractive for the deer. It certainly couldn't hurt to give them a call. They handle a lot of the bear and alligator calls down here.  |
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Post by bc2ca on Aug 7, 2014 16:53:02 GMT
I don't think your neighbor could do much to help you even if he wanted to. The deer population exploded in my parent's neighborhood about 15-20 years ago. Even though there is a wooded area behind the other side of their street, one deer family choose to sleep in my parents backyard on the manicured lawn. They finally stopped sleeping there at night when dad put up a few motion sensor lights but they didn't leave the neighborhood and would nap there regularly in during the day. Deer easily jump fences and have a regular grazing path through the whole neighborhood, completely destroying everyone's gorgeous flower beds. The local animal control can do nothing about them, but I have never heard stories of the deer being agressive toward small animals (lots of wild rabbit in this area too) or people. Sorry I can't offer any wisdom on getting rid of them  |
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Post by peano on Aug 7, 2014 16:53:48 GMT
Wow! We've got tons of deer but have never seen nor heard of any being that aggressive. That sounds so bizarre to me; it's usually common for mother deer to leave their babies alone hidden in the grass while they forage. The deer around here have so little fear of humans/dogs that when my dog chases them, they sort of daintily saunter out of the yard with no sense of urgency. People here use tall fences to keep deer out of their gardens--maybe you can try that. I would totally be frustrated with feeling like I couldn't enjoy my yard.
And as far as you going all blamey on your neighbor for not having a Stepford yard--the deer don't give a shit. Well manicured or a jungle--it's all just food to them.
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Post by kristalina on Aug 7, 2014 16:54:01 GMT
Extend your fence with some kind of barrier. You moved in to a rural area with deer. You don't want the deer in your yard, you have to put up a higher fence. period.
It's not the neighbor's responsibility to keep the deer out of your yard. His yard is appearantly how he likes it, there's nothing you can do about that. They're not his deer, they're wild.
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Post by scrappert on Aug 7, 2014 16:54:37 GMT
Deer fencing sounds like a good idea. Not bad to look at, and it should (hopefully!) solve your problem.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Aug 7, 2014 17:43:45 GMT
Ok..I live in northern MN. I have NEVER EVER heard of a deer going after a smaller animal like that? did you actually SEE this happened? unless the dog actually went AFTER the deer, I can't imagine a deer going after another animal like that. That's just not in them.
As for the deer jumping over the fence. I would put up windchimes, or something on your fence. That should chase them off a bit. Deer are usually very jumpy. You should NOT!!!! feed a deer!! We have deer all over our yard, and have barn cats, and they all get along. They do tend to want to eat our apple trees, so we have to wrap them in wire.
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Post by melanell on Aug 7, 2014 17:49:34 GMT
I don't really think it's the neighbor's responsibility to keep the deer out of your yard. Sorry.
I think your only option is taller fencing.
The more space we as humans take up the more we will have wildlife in our yards. That's all there really is to it. Even if your neighbor cleared his lawn the deer would still exist and they would need someplace to go. Deer roam my parents neighborhood all the time and their development went up in the 60s. The deer just keep wandering there anyway.
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Post by loco coco on Aug 7, 2014 17:53:53 GMT
I dont think its the neighbors responsibility and it sounds like you knew what the condition of his yard was before you moved into your house.
The only option sounds like building a higher fence.
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Post by lovetodigi on Aug 7, 2014 17:57:03 GMT
I am glad that your little dog is okay. Even if this deer chooses to move on, there is nothing to stop another one from moving in. I think, what I would do is to put up a very high privacy fence which should help with two problems, keeping the deer out and hiding your neighbors yard. Deers also can carry ticks, so be sure and check your dog over good any time he goes out. Hope you get it resolved soon.
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Post by sisterbdsq on Aug 7, 2014 17:59:55 GMT
This isn't an animal control issue it's a CODE issue. Have you not called code enforcement? Not necessarily. In many areas, especially rural ones, there is no code requirement to make one's property a "yard." But there's blight, generally. No? |
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Post by mama2three on Aug 7, 2014 18:00:15 GMT
You should NOT!!!! feed a deer!! We have deer all over our yard, and have barn cats, and they all get along. They do tend to want to eat our apple trees, so we have to wrap them in wire. I second this. You should Never feed the deer. That will just encourage them to hang out in/near your yard. Actually, as much as your neighbor's natural woodland might be housing the deer, the deer may really love your gardens (prime food), and that may be what is attracting them to your yard. Even if you can't attach anything to the existing fence (e.g., if it is not your fence), you should be able to put up taller deer fencing that will discourage them from coming into your yard. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 18:01:13 GMT
Not necessarily. In many areas, especially rural ones, there is no code requirement to make one's property a "yard." But there's blight, generally. No? In a rural area, leaving land natural would not be considered blight. It would be considered nature  |
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Post by tuva42 on Aug 7, 2014 18:01:37 GMT
I like the idea of pinwheels along the top of the fence.
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Post by mama2three on Aug 7, 2014 18:01:59 GMT
Not necessarily. In many areas, especially rural ones, there is no code requirement to make one's property a "yard." But there's blight, generally. No? In a rural area, keeping a wooded area as woodland would not be considered blight unless there was a lot of discarded junk such as trailers, vehicles, etc. |
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Post by mama2three on Aug 7, 2014 18:02:50 GMT
Seems we were posting at the same time busypea!
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Post by sisterbdsq on Aug 7, 2014 18:04:02 GMT
Thanks for the schooling on how it's done in the country!!! ((Files this nugget away for future bar conversation, etc.))
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Post by cannes on Aug 7, 2014 18:08:21 GMT
I think that you probably called the wrong people to help with the problem. Here, animal control deals with domestic pets. Game and Fish would be who we would call to deal with issues with wildlife. I'd imagine every state would have some kind of Game and Fish department.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Aug 7, 2014 18:08:25 GMT
Shit, I am not for killing deer but I agree with Sharla, time to take it out. It sounds a bit too aggressive and a bit too domesticated. They should not come near you. They should fear you. I would look into getting a higher fence, planting plants that they hate and repulse them (they are out there), bars of soap, windchimes, etc. Whatever you need to keep them out. My 11 pound malti-poo barks at them and they run like crazy. Hell, you look at them and they run around here. The neighbor might be feeding them.
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Post by mlana on Aug 7, 2014 18:39:51 GMT
I agree with those who say call Fish and Game. I have lived in rural areas a good part of my life, and I currently live near a heavily forested park with deer constantly in my year, and I've never run across one so aggressive. F&G will want to see what is going on there.
FWIW, I built a beautiful raised garden in my year 10 years ago. The deer and rabbits ravaged it so bad, only the hardiest herbs survived. And peonies - apparently deer don't like peonies. This year I had a 6 feet tall fence built and I've managed to keep them out. The exception was when the far gate was left open and they came in for dinner. During the fenceless years, I tried everything - soap, human hair, big dog and human pee (don't ask!), wind chimes, whirligigs, etc- and nothing phased them.
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