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Post by bc2ca on Sept 15, 2016 17:39:16 GMT
If it was my kid, after seeing the Twitter rant, I think I would have sent a message that the mom taxi was unavailable until further notice. If I'm reading this right, your DH went to pick him up from campus on Sunday night to drive your DS to his apartment? Not to your house? And this morning you picked him up from his apartment to drive him to campus? I'm having a hard time with the idea that you are paying for him to have an apartment and still providing him all the perks of a nondriving teen living at home. I think perumbula has given you some great advice. Our DD also has anxiety issues but has really blossomed in the last few years taking charge of everything to do with college, getting herself a job, etc. I'd expect some resistence from your son, but he is capable of doing way more than you are expecting from him. {{hugs}}
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Post by pelirroja on Sept 15, 2016 17:40:39 GMT
You need to introduce "A" to Uber car service and stop doing so much for him. If he can figure out how to post on Twitter, he can figure out how to post to Uber. Let him (somewhat) fall thru the cracks and feel the consequences of his actions and inactions. It sounds like you keep rescuing him before he even realizes he's in over his head. Make life a little difficult and uncertain for him and he'll figure it out. Do not create (or prevent) a crisis: if he gets himself in, he'll have to get himself out. He doesn't appreciate all you do because he has no idea how it feels to do without.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 17:45:20 GMT
If it was my kid, after seeing the Twitter rant, I think I would have sent a message that the mom taxi was unavailable until further notice. If I'm reading this right, your DH went to pick him up from campus on Sunday night to drive your DS to his apartment? Not to your house? And this morning you picked him up from his apartment to drive him to campus? I'm having a hard time with the idea that you are paying for him to have an apartment and still providing him all the perks of a nondriving teen living at home. I think perumbula has given you some great advice. Our DD also has anxiety issues but has really blossomed in the last few years taking charge of everything to do with college, getting herself a job, etc. I'd expect some resistence from your son, but he is capable of doing way more than you are expecting from him. {{hugs}} We do not pay for his apartment. He pays his own rent, utilities, food and entertainment. You need to introduce "A" to Uber car service and stop doing so much for him. Let him (somewhat) fall thru the cracks and feel the consequences of his actions and inactions. It sounds like you keep rescuing him before he even realizes he's in over his head. Make life a little difficult and uncertain for him and he'll figure it out. Do not create (or prevent) a crisis: if he gets himself in, he'll have to get himself out. No uber in Buffalo NY.  But I agree with you.
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Post by pelirroja on Sept 15, 2016 17:49:41 GMT
If there's no Uber, he'll have to learn how to call on a couple of local taxi services or figure out how mass transit operates in your area. No more MomTaxi, OK? Taxis and buses are just about everywhere with or without Uber service. And if all else fails, he's got feet, right? 
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Post by bc2ca on Sept 15, 2016 17:53:18 GMT
If it was my kid, after seeing the Twitter rant, I think I would have sent a message that the mom taxi was unavailable until further notice. If I'm reading this right, your DH went to pick him up from campus on Sunday night to drive your DS to his apartment? Not to your house? And this morning you picked him up from his apartment to drive him to campus? I'm having a hard time with the idea that you are paying for him to have an apartment and still providing him all the perks of a nondriving teen living at home. I think perumbula has given you some great advice. Our DD also has anxiety issues but has really blossomed in the last few years taking charge of everything to do with college, getting herself a job, etc. I'd expect some resistence from your son, but he is capable of doing way more than you are expecting from him. {{hugs}} We do not pay for his apartment. He pays his own rent, utilities, food and entertainment. Sorry, I assumed you were paying based on the financial aid/loan information in the OP.
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Post by perumbula on Sept 15, 2016 17:54:50 GMT
If there's a bus system in my podunk Idaho town, I'd be willing to bet there's a bus system in Buffalo, NY. 
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 17:56:26 GMT
We do not pay for his apartment. He pays his own rent, utilities, food and entertainment. Sorry, I assumed you were paying based on the financial aid/loan information in the OP. No worries. He goes to a private college that is expensive. I can see where that was confusing. I think "A" will become an expert on public transportation.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Sept 15, 2016 17:57:44 GMT
Then stop doing all those things. He's 20. He should be able to do those things on his own. Agreed. If you want him to learn how to be grateful, let him see how much time and effort it takes to do all those things all by himself. It is only after you know how hard it is to do everything that you feel grateful for help.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 18:03:36 GMT
You are right...just like parenthood. I don't think we fully appreciated our parents until our little ankle biters came along. Good point LLL! I also want to say that having been around the variations of 2peas since 2001, and having 1k+ views I am happy that I was not drawn and quartered.  I needed perspective on my enabling and I appreciate everyone's contribution.
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Post by jenjie on Sept 15, 2016 18:10:29 GMT
I have a child who suffers from depression and anxiety issues. I don't know your sons, but with my child the more I do for her, the worse it is. Yes, it seems helpful to set up an adult child so they have to do less and it reduces their stress. But it also reduces their personal view of their own abilities and self worth. The more my child does for herself, the better she feels about who she is and what she's capable of. Yes, she took forever to find a job, but she did it and she's proud of her cashier at the college cafeteria job. She did it herself. We do help out every once in a while, but I know from my own experience with depression my dd needs to feel like she can do things for herself and she can easily become too dependent on others to the point where she depends on others for everything. Like I said, I don't know your kid. This is just my experience with my own child and I offer it as something to think about. [ This is so valuable. I'm going to save your words.
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Post by hockeyfan06 on Sept 15, 2016 19:02:00 GMT
I have a 20 year old son as well. I can definitely understand the OP in helping her son. I help mine by teaching him how to be resourceful and with the age of the internet there is nothing you can't find the answer to. In my upbringing my parents did absolutely zero for me due to dysfunction, abuse and laziness. Because of my upbringing I have done the opposite to my kids. I always talked and explained the reasons for the need to get certain things done for yourself before adulthood hit.
Instead of me doing things for them it is now suggesting alternatives and them making their own decisions and actions. It's nice to hear "Mom what do you think about this? Or do you know how to do that?"
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Post by IAmUnoriginal on Sept 15, 2016 19:16:34 GMT
Your college years are when you're supposed to stumble a bit -- eat crappy ramen noodles every night for a week because you splurged your cash on something stupid (but awesome in your 20 year old mind), drive a car that's held together with crossed fingers and duct tape, run out of gas, and just do stupid, irresponsible things you'd never think to do in your 30's or 40's. Until you've stumbled, you don't know how resourceful you can be. You need to have those stories about your 1983 Dodge Omni with the red vinyl interior that used to stall going up hills when it was above 80 degrees. You need to be able to laugh and tell your kids about your crappy first apartment and the sweat and tears you put into your first house(s). You can't compile those memories and stories if someone is always rescuing you from life's little hiccups.
Let him stumble. Be there for the big stuff, but let him suffer a little bit. It builds character. And, if I were next to you in traffic, I would have given you a thumbs up and "Go, Mom!" Every now and then, you just need a mom meltdown to let the little shits know they've gone way, way too far.
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Post by kibblesandbits on Sept 15, 2016 19:17:41 GMT
I too have a son who deals with anxiety, I have also found that the more I do the worse he feels. It hurt like major surgery, but I released and relinquished his life to him and he's 110% better. He does better when he has control. Just a thought.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 19:25:57 GMT
I too have a son who deals with anxiety, I have also found that the more I do the worse he feels. It hurt like major surgery, but I released and relinquished his life to him and he's 110% better. He does better when he has control. Just a thought. This is true of "A" to a degree. He's wrapped tight and totally type A - but when things are out of his control the anxiety worsens. Right now "A" is playing "M" - for martyr. He will "take the bus tomorrow since he doesn't appreciate me". (sent via text). I responded okey dokey.
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Post by femalebusiness on Sept 15, 2016 19:32:14 GMT
Buy him a bicycle.
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Post by jemali on Sept 15, 2016 20:24:50 GMT
I think you mean: Tell him to buy a bicycle.
My dd's are 19 and 21, I get how you feel. It is hard to let them do things on their own, but we know it is best. I am impressed with a lot of the problems they are able to solve without me.
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Post by ilikepink on Sept 15, 2016 20:37:59 GMT
It's hard when they are ready to be on their own, but not completely ready yet. You know you aren't doing him any favors, right? He has to fail sometimes in order to learn how not to fail. If you want him to be a fully capable adult, you have to let him become a fully capable adult. I don't have any experience with anxiety in my children, but as perumbula said, the satisfaction of doing for himself is invaluable. Take a step back, mom. Maybe two steps 
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Post by polz on Sept 15, 2016 20:41:28 GMT
I hope he doesn't expect his future wife someday to do everything for him too. The first thing I thought when I read the OP was "I feel sorry for future Mrs A". She will never be good enough because 'my mother did this/my mother did that'. Give your baby boy wings so he can fly. You are keeping him in the nest. I bet it's damn cozy there. I want to be in the nest.
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Post by 950nancy on Sept 15, 2016 21:37:53 GMT
I have a 20 and 22 year old. We started making them independent when they were in elementary school. My husband and I often didn't agree on what we should be doing though. It is hard to make the right decisions and each kid is a little different. Good for you for laying down the law. Someone got a little too full of himself.
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Post by kelly8875 on Sept 15, 2016 21:53:29 GMT
I agree.. Even with issues you talk about, you're doing way too much for him. He will never be a functioning adult with that much care. Many many many people that age get nothing from their parents, so consider that. I'm not saying cut him off completely, but it sounds more like he's 12 than 22.
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Post by Lexica on Sept 15, 2016 22:04:02 GMT
I sure wish I would have read a post like this one about 15 years ago. It could have saved me years of grief. I am another who did too much for a son with anxiety and depression issues.
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Post by rodeomom on Sept 16, 2016 0:11:59 GMT
You are right...just like parenthood. I don't think we fully appreciated our parents until our little ankle biters came along. Good point LLL! I also want to say that having been around the variations of 2peas since 2001, and having 1k+ views I am happy that I was not drawn and quartered.  I needed perspective on my enabling and I appreciate everyone's contribution. Your doing great! It's sometimes hard for us to hear what we need to. Your doing a good job of hearing it.
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Post by christine58 on Sept 16, 2016 0:39:10 GMT
You are really doing way too much for him. WAY TOO MUCH> Why are you driving him to school?? If he's in Buffalo let him take the bus!!
PS>.I think I saw you in that red Siena....just kidding!! What college is he at?? Canisus? Daemen??
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Post by wonderwoman on Sept 16, 2016 1:21:06 GMT
Then stop doing all those things. He's 20. He should be able to do those things on his own.
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Post by wonderwoman on Sept 16, 2016 1:22:04 GMT
Then stop doing all those things. He's 20. He should be able to do those things on his own.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 2:24:09 GMT
You are really doing way too much for him. WAY TOO MUCH> Why are you driving him to school?? If he's in Buffalo let him take the bus!! PS>.I think I saw you in that red Siena....just kidding!! What college is he at?? Canisus? Daemen?? Canisius. Both twins are. My lecture started on Delaware .... all the way down to the 198. I drive by the campus when I go downtown on the 33.
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Post by AussieMeg on Sept 16, 2016 2:39:55 GMT
Right now "A" is playing "M" - for martyr. He will "take the bus tomorrow since he doesn't appreciate me". (sent via text). I responded okey dokey. Haha, your response was perfect, good on you!! "Okey dokey." He's probably sitting there thinking "What? She's supposed to cave in and tell me she'll come pick me up."
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Post by christine58 on Sept 16, 2016 10:43:15 GMT
You are really doing way too much for him. WAY TOO MUCH> Why are you driving him to school?? If he's in Buffalo let him take the bus!! PS>.I think I saw you in that red Siena....just kidding!! What college is he at?? Canisus? Daemen?? Canisius. Both twins are. My lecture started on Delaware .... all the way down to the 198. I drive by the campus when I go downtown on the 33. My brother and SIL went there~ Canisius is a great school. That's a long lecture depending on traffic!! Oh and the Bills still SUCK...UGH!~
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Post by ~Lauren~ on Sept 16, 2016 13:45:42 GMT
We have two gifts to give our children: the first is roots; the second is wings.
Time for the second gift, mama.
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Post by amom23 on Sept 16, 2016 14:56:44 GMT
OP - First off it is ok for us mom's to occasionally "lose our shit" on our kids. Damn it can be hard to be a parent, but growing up is a process. Just because you turn 18 and head off to college doesn't mean you don't need support from mom and dad anymore. A 20 yr old is still young and inexperienced and trying to figure out their place in the world. It sounds like your son is being responsible in many areas of his life and no doubt the rest will come. Hang in there mom!
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