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Post by rebelyelle on Oct 13, 2016 12:32:33 GMT
He's 7 weeks old, and he doesn't sleep. Yesterday he woke up at 6 am, took one 3-hour nap late morning around 11, and then was up for the rest of the day/night until 3:30 am. He probably took 3-4 15 minute cat naps throughout the day. This is a typical day. He's miserable. We're miserable. I have no idea what to do anymore. I've tried swaddling, swinging, rocking, pacifier, gas drops, gripe water, shushing, singing to him, wearing him, bouncy seat, warm baths, baby massage, and even going on car rides in the middle of the night when we're truly desperate (which works, but then he wakes up as soon as the car stops). I KNOW he needs to sleep - I can see how exhausted he is. But he just will not do it.
Any advice/strategies that we can try that we have not tried. I have read Happiest Baby on the Block, and while it worked like a charm on my first, nothing is working for this kid.
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 13, 2016 12:37:43 GMT
No advice, but LOTS of sympathy. My first was a bad sleeper.
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Post by anxiousmom on Oct 13, 2016 12:45:30 GMT
My oldest was a crappy sleeper until he was around three. It was awful.
All I can say is that routines helped, but the one thing that allowed us all to sleep was co-sleeping. He slept better and longer when he slept with me. I know it isn't everyone's thing, but it worked for us.
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Post by Judy26 on Oct 13, 2016 12:48:54 GMT
I used to put DS''s carrier on the dryer and turn it on. The rumble and vibration would put him to sleep. I got a lot of laundry done in those days. Maybe I should try that now for me. Wonder what DH would say if he found me curled up on top of the dryer at 3 AM? Good luck. Just keep repeating "This too, shall pass."
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Post by secondlife on Oct 13, 2016 12:58:24 GMT
Oh, I remember it so well. My only was just like this. It was so hard and we were so tired. Everyone would just say, enjoy that baby, but that was so hard when we were so tired.
We tried everything the books said to do but we weren't prepared to CIO with a baby that young.
The solution we came up with was shifts. We would split the work and get as much sleep as we could until time for the next person to take over. Because I was nursing that wasn't all that long, but it got better. I would sleep while nursing - I would have my husband sleep in the other room and I would co-sleep with baby. That worked well for a while.
Before long you may be able to start establishing a schedule. That made a big difference for us when we were finally able to do that.
I remember so well. So much sympathy, it was terrible. Do you have a teenage neighbor who might hold baby for a bit while you nap?
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Post by Merge on Oct 13, 2016 12:59:20 GMT
My oldest was a crappy sleeper until he was around three. It was awful. All I can say is that routines helped, but the one thing that allowed us all to sleep was co-sleeping. He slept better and longer when he slept with me. I know it isn't everyone's thing, but it worked for us. Same with my oldest. We did all the stuff mentioned in the OP. She really didn't sleep unless she slept with us. We did all the safe co-sleeping stuff and gradually transitioned her first to a mattress on the floor in our room, then into a very low bed with her younger sister (a textbook baby who settled into a schedule by 5 weeks) when she was about three. Maybe not ideal, but ya gotta sleep.
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Post by scrappert on Oct 13, 2016 13:02:26 GMT
I have no advice but sending good thoughts and prayers. It's tough. Hang in there!
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Post by Shel on Oct 13, 2016 13:03:14 GMT
I don't know that I have any great advice but just wanted to say I'm sorry. I would second co-sleeping if that works for you. But I wanted to add that you need some sleep too. If you have a friend or family member that can watch the baby so you can get a decent nap that will help you cope better during this challenging time. Good luck
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on Oct 13, 2016 13:06:31 GMT
It sound like your are trying all the things that are out there. My oldest was a dream. I read Happiest Baby on the Block, used all those tools and it worked magically. My youngest didn't sleep the night until 21 months old. It was terrible for all of us. Lots of crying going on in our house between him and me. Hang in there.
My youngest did have reflux and we got the fisher price rock and play sleeper and he slept in that next to me until he learned to roll over. He slept much better in the upright position. He also loved the vibrating bouncy seat.
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Post by rebelyelle on Oct 13, 2016 13:08:25 GMT
My oldest was a crappy sleeper until he was around three. It was awful. All I can say is that routines helped, but the one thing that allowed us all to sleep was co-sleeping. He slept better and longer when he slept with me. I know it isn't everyone's thing, but it worked for us. We co-sleep when he allows it. A lot of the time he'll only sleep if we're holding him, so I'll just prop myself on a bunch of pillows and hold him on my chest in bed. We also have a little bassinet that lays on our bed so he can co-sleep in there with us. That thing has only been used like 4 times because he won't sleep in it flat on his back. It's either on us or in his swing. Whatever. But getting him to the point where he'll actually go to sleep so we can co-sleep is the bigger battle. He just actively fights it. My first was a dream, on a routine and sleeping through the night by 6 weeks. His little brother is going to be my defiant nightmare child. <le sigh>
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Post by rebelyelle on Oct 13, 2016 13:10:43 GMT
I used to put DS''s carrier on the dryer and turn it on. The rumble and vibration would put him to sleep. I got a lot of laundry done in those days. Maybe I should try that now for me. Wonder what DH would say if he found me curled up on top of the dryer at 3 AM? Good luck. Just keep repeating "This too, shall pass." I am totally trying this!
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Post by MsKnit on Oct 13, 2016 13:10:55 GMT
I used to put DS''s carrier on the dryer and turn it on. The rumble and vibration would put him to sleep. I got a lot of laundry done in those days. Maybe I should try that now for me. Wonder what DH would say if he found me curled up on top of the dryer at 3 AM? Good luck. Just keep repeating "This too, shall pass." That's what I was going to suggest. It was advice given to me when I was pregnant with my son.
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Post by pridemom on Oct 13, 2016 13:19:15 GMT
Are you wearing him during the day? That would free your hands. Have you talked to the pediatrician? Could there be a physical issue, i.e.: reflux, that's causing this? Have you considered chiropractic adjustment? Sometimes birth gets little ones' all wonky. We have a family friend (chiropractor) who adjusted his grandkids within a day of birth. I had a friend tell a story of a baby she cared for that never stopped crying. In desperation they took him to the chiro at three weeks of age. A gentle adjustment made him instantly stop crying and he was the most content babe after.
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Post by PaperAngel on Oct 13, 2016 13:24:12 GMT
Our only child slept for 12 hours with only 2 brief feeding/changing interruptions, then was awake for 12 hours without any naps. The problem was he fought going to sleep & the sleeping hours were 3pm-3am. While fighting going to sleep didn't change, we adjusted the hours to 7pm-7am after about a week, which blissfully lasted until he transitioned into a full sized bed (we lost far more sleep when he was 3 yo than an infant)!
Our pediatrician reiterated that babies form new routines after 3 days of repetition, so his advice was to establish & follow bedtime steps when you want your infant to sleep. For example, dress baby in bedtime clothing (we found the "sleeping bag" worked well), close shutters/draw light-blocking window coverings, turn on only a single lamp, talk lowly, sing or play white noise music while rocking, put into crib just before falling to sleep, etc.
Best wishes!
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Post by miominmio on Oct 13, 2016 13:25:10 GMT
My sympathies. My eldest didn't sleep at night until he was 4 years (and three months) old. With one glorious exception (one night during those years). We tried absolutely every trick in all the books.....nothing worked.
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Post by jennyap on Oct 13, 2016 13:25:27 GMT
I know someone who had similar problems, tried everything - baby was diagnosed with silent reflux at about 2 months old, and once they started treating for that it improved exponentially. The fact that you say he won't sleep on his back makes me think this might be worth getting checked out.
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Post by rebelyelle on Oct 13, 2016 13:27:51 GMT
Are you wearing him during the day? That would free your hands. Have you talked to the pediatrician? Could there be a physical issue, i.e.: reflux, that's causing this? Have you considered chiropractic adjustment? Sometimes birth gets little ones' all wonky. We have a family friend (chiropractor) who adjusted his grandkids within a day of birth. I had a friend tell a story of a baby she cared for that never stopped crying. In desperation they took him to the chiro at three weeks of age. A gentle adjustment made him instantly stop crying and he was the most content babe after. We both wear him a ton. I can manage basic things like grocery shopping (and peaing, lol, he's on me now) when I'm wearing him, so that's helpful. DH will wear him in his office and work at his standing desk. He doesn't cry much. He gets fussy, but he's not crying all day, so I don't think it's colic or reflux, but we're a seeing the ped next week so I'm definitely going to talk with him about it.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Oct 13, 2016 13:31:46 GMT
Have you tried keeping him from taking his big nap during the day? When my dd was born, she had her days and nights mixed up. We took off all her clothes to keep her from being too comfy to sleep. While I agree that he needs to take naps during the day, that may be all his body thinks it needs to keep going. I would not let him sleep more than 1 hour at a time and only 2 naps, one at his normal 11 am time and another maybe around 3 but no later. Then do everything you can to keep him awake until 8 or 9. Play with him, stimulate him, take off his clothes, let him cry but let him wear himself out.
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Post by dulcemama on Oct 13, 2016 13:32:36 GMT
Have you tried white noise of some sort? DD was a terrible sleeper too but we could get her to go to sleep if we ran the vacuum for a while. That thing was so noisy but we could see her visibly relax when we turned it on.
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Post by PaperAngel on Oct 13, 2016 13:33:07 GMT
We both wear him a ton. I can manage basic things like grocery shopping (and peaing, lol, he's on me now) when I'm wearing him, so that's helpful. DH will wear him in his office and work at his standing desk. He doesn't cry much. He gets fussy, but he's not crying all day, so I don't think it's colic or reflux, but we're a seeing the ped next week so I'm definitely going to talk with him about it. Perhaps wearing him is the problem, & he suffers from separation anxiety when not next to one of you. I suggest you gradually increase detached time & establish a rigid routine as described in my previous post. Best wishes!
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Post by peppermintpatty on Oct 13, 2016 13:33:48 GMT
Have you tried white noise of some sort? DD was a terrible sleeper too but we could get her to go to sleep if we ran the vacuum for a while. That thing was so noisy but we could see her visibly relax when we turned it on. If you go that route, get a Marpac white noise machine. They are now selling them at Bed bath and beyond and you can use the coupon. Those were a lifesaver for my kids. Save
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Post by katlaw on Oct 13, 2016 13:34:55 GMT
My sympathies. This book Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child saved our lives with baby #3. It is written by a doctor who has some practical advice and ideas that worked for us. The things that worked for us was black out blinds, a white noise machine and a repetitive routine. Check out his website and/or read his book. It does get better but that is little consolation to sleep deprived parents. Dr Weissbluth - Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Childand just a note about the dryer things - it is a great idea. The noise and the vibration work. Just secure the car seat so it cannot vibrate off the dryer. Signed someone who has taken 911 EMS calls. 
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Post by rebelyelle on Oct 13, 2016 13:39:53 GMT
My sympathies. This book Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child saved our lives with baby #3. It is written by a doctor who has some practical advice and ideas that worked for us. The things that worked for us was black out blinds, a white noise machine and a repetitive routine. Check out his website and/or read his book. It does get better but that is little consolation to sleep deprived parents. Dr Weissbluth - Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Childand just a note about the dryer things - it is a great idea. The noise and the vibration work. Just secure the car seat so it cannot vibrate off the dryer. Signed someone who has taken 911 EMS calls. We use a fan, and his swing has 4 white noise settings, and those help once he gets to sleep for sure. I hear you on the dryer thing. We having a folding table next to the dryer, so the neurotic mother in me will be sitting on that table holding the carrier if we give it a shot. He really hates his carseat, so I'm not sure it will work, but there are times that I will try anything.
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Post by rebelyelle on Oct 13, 2016 13:44:50 GMT
We both wear him a ton. I can manage basic things like grocery shopping (and peaing, lol, he's on me now) when I'm wearing him, so that's helpful. DH will wear him in his office and work at his standing desk. He doesn't cry much. He gets fussy, but he's not crying all day, so I don't think it's colic or reflux, but we're a seeing the ped next week so I'm definitely going to talk with him about it. Perhaps wearing him is the problem, & he suffers from separation anxiety when not next to one of you. I suggest you gradually increase detached time & establish a rigid routine as described in my previous post. Best wishes! That is an excellent thought. I hired a part-time nanny who starts next week, just 12 or so hours a week. Perhaps that will help with separation anxiety and helping get him into a routine. The routine thing is hard right now because we are just so exhausted that we'll take any little sleep when it comes our way. I know it's important, but it just keeps getting pushed to the back burner. I also underestimated just how hard baby #2 is. Our first was SO EASY, and now I'm laughing at how easy I thought it was going to be. HA!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 13:45:49 GMT
He's 7 weeks old, and he doesn't sleep. Yesterday he woke up at 6 am, took one 3-hour nap late morning around 11, and then was up for the rest of the day/night until 3:30 am. He probably took 3-4 15 minute cat naps throughout the day. This is a typical day. He's miserable. We're miserable. I have no idea what to do anymore. I've tried swaddling, swinging, rocking, pacifier, gas drops, gripe water, shushing, singing to him, wearing him, bouncy seat, warm baths, baby massage, and even going on car rides in the middle of the night when we're truly desperate (which works, but then he wakes up as soon as the car stops). I KNOW he needs to sleep - I can see how exhausted he is. But he just will not do it. Any advice/strategies that we can try that we have not tried. I have read Happiest Baby on the Block, and while it worked like a charm on my first, nothing is working for this kid. Have you taken him to the ped to see if he has reflux or GERD? Both present like that. Dd had to sleep inclined as did ds. We proped up the matress and then used a swaddle blanket to stop theur butt from sliding down. They were both put on meds as well. And both were switched on different formulas. A friend who breast fed had to cut a lot of foods from her diet to help.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 13, 2016 13:47:18 GMT
Mine was like that too, would only nap for maybe 15-20 minutes at a time during the day and it was making me insane. We had a small house at the time and resisted getting a baby swing, but after two months of no sleeping we relented. Best.Thing.EVER. Ours also had problems with reflux and her ped had her take something for it and that helped a lot too. I'll also second (or third) the Rock N' Play Sleeper bed. We used that thing every day for the better part of her first year, and she even slept in it at times if she was congested.
Good luck, I hope you find something that works so you all can get a little rest!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 13:47:45 GMT
Are you wearing him during the day? That would free your hands. Have you talked to the pediatrician? Could there be a physical issue, i.e.: reflux, that's causing this? Have you considered chiropractic adjustment? Sometimes birth gets little ones' all wonky. We have a family friend (chiropractor) who adjusted his grandkids within a day of birth. I had a friend tell a story of a baby she cared for that never stopped crying. In desperation they took him to the chiro at three weeks of age. A gentle adjustment made him instantly stop crying and he was the most content babe after. We both wear him a ton. I can manage basic things like grocery shopping (and peaing, lol, he's on me now) when I'm wearing him, so that's helpful. DH will wear him in his office and work at his standing desk. He doesn't cry much. He gets fussy, but he's not crying all day, so I don't think it's colic or reflux, but we're a seeing the ped next week so I'm definitely going to talk with him about it. Dd disnt cry but ds did! He was severely colicy. We had no idea dd had gerd u til she vomited blood. Then she had the swallow study and boom we knew.
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Post by deshacrafts on Oct 13, 2016 13:51:51 GMT
I know someone who had similar problems, tried everything - baby was diagnosed with silent reflux at about 2 months old, and once they started treating for that it improved exponentially. The fact that you say he won't sleep on his back makes me think this might be worth getting checked out. This is what I was going to suggest. My DD's baby is 17 weeks and was diagnosed about 8 weeks. He hated sleeping on his back, but would sleep when held. She got him on medication, raised the head of his bed, put some rolled up receiving blankets at the bottom and both sides of where he would be sleeping (with space around him), made sure he was swaddled well and put on some white noise in his room. He has become a better sleeper, but they go through so many changes their first year that just when they think they have it down, something changes. Good luck, do you have family that can come and take care of baby while you nap/sleep for a few days? Save
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Post by dulcemama on Oct 13, 2016 13:51:55 GMT
Have you tried white noise of some sort? DD was a terrible sleeper too but we could get her to go to sleep if we ran the vacuum for a while. That thing was so noisy but we could see her visibly relax when we turned it on. If you go that route, get a Marpac white noise machine. They are now selling them at Bed bath and beyond and you can use the coupon. Those were a lifesaver for my kids. SaveYes, I would try this first. DD however was not at all interested in that. We played around with some different things like a white noise machine, static on the radio, running water before we discovered that the vacuum was just the right sound for her. So I guess my point is, you may have to experiment a little before you find what works.
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Post by Grom Pea on Oct 13, 2016 13:53:49 GMT
For us co sleeping saved me. I've also read amazing things about the Rock n play sleeper that crazy 4 scraps recommended, I would have bought that if co sleeping wasn't free and didn't require a separate item.
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