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Post by putabuttononit on Oct 17, 2016 3:02:37 GMT
I watched the interview for the first time today (Warning: could be a trigger if you have been a victim of sexual assault/abuse.) Just wondering if you've seen this, do you believe what she's saying happened. I don't know what to think/believe anymore. youtu.be/zHh73fkDUIs it doesn't have to get political, to keep it simple feel free to just say yes or no. edited to add- can anyone fix the link, my link is broken somehow. It's directly from the video so not sure what happened. |
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Post by rodeomom on Oct 17, 2016 3:03:33 GMT
Your link didn't work for me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 3:18:19 GMT
Yes, I do.
I also believe the other women who've accused him, along with Trump's accusers. The pattern of behavior of both of these men support their allegations.
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Post by Nink on Oct 17, 2016 3:30:41 GMT
I have no reason not to believe any woman who has been sexually abused. We really need to focus on getting victims comfortable enough to come forward when it happens and press charges rather than waiting so long and then nothing can be done.
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Post by katybee on Oct 17, 2016 4:04:51 GMT
Yes. So many men who hold positions of great power or celebrity seem to think that they can do whatever they want and women will "love" it.  They also think they are invincible. Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Bill Cosby... they are standing in top of a gross, GROSS iceberg. Men use their power and influence to get sex --but more importantly--to show who's in charge. It feeds their egos. Just like rape isn't actually about sex, neither is sexual harrassment, abuse or assault. (FTR... I also believe Anita Hill. And her abuser now sits on the US Supreme Court). |
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 17, 2016 4:10:45 GMT
I have no reason not to believe any woman who has been sexually abused. We really need to focus on getting victims comfortable enough to come forward when it happens and press charges rather than waiting so long and then nothing can be done. This. I think something may have happened, however for a long time she insisted it wasn't true. I do not believe Hillary made threats to her (given what she has said). |
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Post by freecharlie on Oct 17, 2016 4:44:56 GMT
I have no reason not to believe any woman who has been sexually abused. We really need to focus on getting victims comfortable enough to come forward when it happens and press charges rather than waiting so long and then nothing can be done. This. I think something may have happened, however for a long time she insisted it wasn't true. I do not believe Hillary made threats to her (given what she has said). I agree with this. |
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Post by secondlife on Oct 17, 2016 11:12:15 GMT
As a general rule, I believe a woman who says she has been assaulted. I think this should be a default stance.
Because this case has broad implications, I think there is a burden of veracity when it's being made a campaign issue. I don't doubt that Bill Clinton was aggressive and promiscuous, but Broaddrick's own categorical denial of her own allegation muddies the water for sure.
I don't think we will ever know the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 11:55:29 GMT
As a general rule, I believe a woman who says she has been assaulted. I think this should be a default stance. Because this case has broad implications, I think there is a burden of veracity when it's being made a campaign issue. I don't doubt that Bill Clinton was aggressive and promiscuous, but Broaddrick's own categorical denial of her own allegation muddies the water for sure. I don't think we will ever know the truth. I agree with your default stance. I also think it's worth considering her claim that she felt threatened to remain silent on the matter, when wondering why she would deny it. |
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Post by happymomma on Oct 17, 2016 12:46:59 GMT
Yes.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Oct 17, 2016 13:16:08 GMT
As a general rule, I believe a woman who says she has been assaulted. I think this should be a default stance. Because this case has broad implications, I think there is a burden of veracity when it's being made a campaign issue. I don't doubt that Bill Clinton was aggressive and promiscuous, but Broaddrick's own categorical denial of her own allegation muddies the water for sure. I don't think we will ever know the truth. Right! And since she denied it for so long, and came forward when she was promised immunity, (by Ken Starr who was trying to tear down The Clintons) and then again when she was paid to tell her story (by Trump who is also tearing the Clintons down) it is very suspicious and leads people not to believe her. Even the FBI found it inconclusive when they investigated. Given what JB said Hillary said to her, there was no threat by Hillary to silence her. No reasonable person would stretch being thanked for her work would stretch that into a threat. (And none of this has been to court, no charges against anyone, and this one is the one Bill denies having happened) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 13:26:33 GMT
I don't know. I *do* think WJC is guilty of sexual harassment & could be guilty. The length of time between the alleged incident and her coming forward makes her story suspect. I wouldn't believe it at all if WJC there weren't so many other women that have come forth with sexual allegations. I will never forget what WJC said to Dan Rather when he asked him why he did what he did with ML. No remorse whatsoever. "Because I could." I think he's a disgusting pig no matter what. PS... I wanted to make sure my memory was accurate all these years after the interview. Yep...that is absolutely what he said. www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-cheated-because-i-could-16-06-2004/ |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 14:03:27 GMT
Yes. So many men who hold positions of great power or celebrity seem to think that they can do whatever they want and women will "love" it. They also think they are invincible. Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Bill Cosby... they are standing in top of a gross, GROSS iceberg. Men use their power and influence to get sex --but more importantly--to show who's in charge. It feeds their egos. Just like rape isn't actually about sex, neither is sexual harrassment, abuse or assault. ( FTR... I also believe Anita Hill. And her abuser now sits on the US Supreme Court). , |
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They also think they are invincible. Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Bill Cosby... they are standing in top of a gross, GROSS iceberg. Men use their power and influence to get sex --but more importantly--to show who's in charge. It feeds their egos. Just like rape isn't actually about sex, neither is sexual harrassment, abuse or assault. (FTR... I also believe Anita Hill. And her abuser now sits on the US Supreme Court). 
