i am personally responsible for all abortions per my mom

Good Grief. I wish Vermin Supreme would come on a tour of the UK. Sounds as if he would give the Monster Raving Looney Party a run for their money.

I can't tell you how sorry I am. I have no words.

That's really over the top. Do they not know you have to be 18 years old to vote? Why are they pushing your kids like that?

Hopefully there will be some normalcy after the next few days

It's amazing to me the things people say, especially to those they are close to. I steer very clear of political conversations with family & friends and that is probably a very good thing. Hope Mom returns to normal after the election

Perhaps, your mom is my MIL's close cousin? I received an email last night as a reminder to go vote for Trump on Tuesday, how vital this election is, etc.

So bizarre, she has never felt the need to "remind us to vote" before. I mean, there are so many other areas she feels the need to comment on, but this has never been one of them. I'm fine reminding people to vote, but why would they think telling people who to vote for is going to go over well?? And via guilt trip no less??

I completely agree with PP that good people on both sides have lost their minds in this election cycle.



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I think I would just die a slow death if my mom talked to me like that.  We both have our opinions (which now we both hate both candidates) but typically we disagree on who is running.  That said, we both respect each other not to bash each other's opinion.  And that goes to my sister as well.  We all can discuss without it turning a conversation into a war.  Both my mom and sister tend to lean more liberal and I am more conservative, not that it MEANS anything in this election.  All of us pretty much agree both candidates are not what we want. 

I'm sorry you had to have such an awful conversation with your parents. Just keep reminding yourself that this election has brought out the very worst in most people and they say things they will regret later.

Politics isn't something my family has ever really discussed. I don't even know how my mother and two brothers will vote. Actually, I don't even know which party they align with either and we all live fairly close together. I think we must be an odd ball family, but this election, I'm darn thankful for it!

Wow. You must be a really busy lady!

I'm sorry that's how it all went. I am Catholic and very anti-abortion, and have had many similar conversations with some of my more "textbook Catholic" friends. I don't believe Trump's stance is truly anti-abortion to begin with (I think it's convenient for the moment), nor do I believe making abortions illegal will accomplish anything except to make them happen in dangerous circumstances rather than in a safe and sterile environment, and I think there is a mountain of pro-life actions that Hillary does support and that can make a real difference in the world. Besides all of this, I'm not nor have I ever been a single issue voter. But no, to them, Trump is anti-abortion and if you vote for Hillary, you are evil because that one issue should (no pun intended) trump all others. If you want to have a reasonable discussion involving several issues, I can respect that, even if we land on opposite sides of things. Even if you feel like in the end, that is your single most important issue and you feel Trump is the better candidate, I can respect you. I just disagree with you. But seeing it as a simple, single-issue election is disingenuous and in this year, maybe even dangerous.

Did they seriously not know you had to be 18 to vote???

and I'm pretty sure Trump IS pro-life. anti-abortion. hence all the "they should be punished" comments, etc, etc. No, I don't think he really cares, BUT it IS part of his spiel.

Except that a Republican nominated justice DOES NOT equal an anti-Roe v Wade justice. Really. Don't take my word for it. Go look at the 7 majority justices from Roe and the party of the president that nominated them.

I joked with my husband that it's too bad my Dad isn't here to be a part of this election cycle. His response when I told him I was a Democrat in high school was, 'no, you're not' and sad to say (for him) that 12 years later, I am still a very proud Democrat. Fortunately, my Mother and I see eye to eye and are on the same side (and even my son who I hadn't even spoken to about this election...he's 6...learned about why he has the day off from school tomorrow said he was hoping Hillary would win after telling me the candidates were Donald Trump and Hillary) so this would never happen, but what you're dealing with is crazy. It's one thing to go off about the deplorables or liberals (used as a dirty word) voting for Trump or Clinton in a general consensus knowing that not everyone is an uneducated dumbass but to apply those same thoughts to someone you know (and RAISED at that) isn't an uneducated dumbass is freaking crazy. This election has done some shit to even the normal people among us.