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Post by monklady123 on Nov 9, 2016 21:25:48 GMT
What I see on my Facebook from Democrats is stunned grief, particularly from those who need to figure out how to talk to their daughters. And from clergy who serve churches with both Trump voters and Clinton voters who need to figure out how to provide pastoral care for their flock, while they themselves need some pastoral care. What I see on my Facebook from Republicans, who are all game friends who I've added through the years...there are maybe six or seven of them who post regularly (the others only play games, or else they have to FB accounts) -- what I'm seeing from them is gloating, things like "we showed those libtards!" and "finally we'll get the Muslim out of the White House" and "finally we'll be the America we were meant to be, with Christian values." etc. I have blocked one and deleted the rest. What's sad is that some of us have things in common. The one I only blocked has a son who has just finished basic training for the Marines. Also she hates standardized tests with a passion, the same as I do. And she loves dogs. These are things we can talk about, and we have. And I want to know what happens with her son, how he does now that he's done with Basic. Yet she calls me a libtard (she doesn't know my political leaning because I've never posted political stuff on FB), and rants about Muslims in the White House, and about stupid dangerous people (Democrats, who she calls "Democraps". So the hate I see is all from the Republicans. No talk of reaching out, reconciliation, nothing. You know, "reconciliation" is an important concept in Christianity, the religion they espouse.  |
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Post by jlynnbarth on Nov 9, 2016 21:31:15 GMT
I had to unfriend 3 people on FB this morning. Which just sucks, because yesterday I posted on FB how glad I was to have friends on all sides that could have rational conversations, disagree and still get along etc.... and how I was so happy to not be in the group of people that had to Unfriend or Unfollow anyone this past 1.5 years. This morning, 3 of the people that liked my post and one even shared my post from yesterday had melt downs. It wasn't the melt downs that made me unfriend them, but their hope that Mr. Trump is assassinated that I could not tolerate. I understand being upset, I understand not agreeing, but to wish death on someone is not alright with me. I didn't need to try and calm them down. Others had already tried and they told everyone to Eff off and unfriend them if they didn't like it. So... that is what I had to do. It makes me very sad.
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Post by papercrafteradvocate on Nov 9, 2016 21:44:12 GMT
What I see on my Facebook from Democrats is stunned grief, particularly from those who need to figure out how to talk to their daughters. And from clergy who serve churches with both Trump voters and Clinton voters who need to figure out how to provide pastoral care for their flock, while they themselves need some pastoral care. What I see on my Facebook from Republicans, who are all game friends who I've added through the years...there are maybe six or seven of them who post regularly (the others only play games, or else they have to FB accounts) -- what I'm seeing from them is gloating, things like "we showed those libtards!" and "finally we'll get the Muslim out of the White House" and "finally we'll be the America we were meant to be, with Christian values." etc. I have blocked one and deleted the rest. What's sad is that some of us have things in common. The one I only blocked has a son who has just finished basic training for the Marines. Also she hates standardized tests with a passion, the same as I do. And she loves dogs. These are things we can talk about, and we have. And I want to know what happens with her son, how he does now that he's done with Basic. Yet she calls me a libtard (she doesn't know my political leaning because I've never posted political stuff on FB), and rants about Muslims in the White House, and about stupid dangerous people (Democrats, who she calls "Democraps". So the hate I see is all from the Republicans. No talk of reaching out, reconciliation, nothing. You know, "reconciliation" is an important concept in Christianity, the religion they espouse. This is exactly what I e been subjected to. And on my Facebook I've refrained from any political discussions. |
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Post by anxiousmom on Nov 9, 2016 21:51:12 GMT
jlynnbarth That's appalling. I may be dissapointed in the outcome of the election, but to wish some one would assassinate the President is utterly contemptible.
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Post by jlynnbarth on Nov 9, 2016 22:02:54 GMT
I agree anxiousmom. I was devastated when I saw it. I've known the one person since elementary school and would have never thought she could say (much less think) something like that.
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Nov 9, 2016 23:40:03 GMT
I don't support hate or fear, so I send love to all those who are in this hate vibe.
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Post by AnotherPea on Nov 10, 2016 0:53:57 GMT
I'm a bit surprised by what I've witnessed today too. Many of the people I work with are very liberal. Extremists. They snapped at students, especially those who acted gleeful in their presence, as if the world should be shrouded in black. On teacher FB groups the drama was so thick you'd have thought we were all at a Shakespeare festival. In the break room one teacher exclaimed "I didn't know I lived among so many racists!" @@.
However, I'm quite certain that he wouldn't have appreciated it if his candidate had won and someone called him a liar for voting for her. After all, to vote for her means you have to agree with her sins, right?
I thought the days leading up to the election were bad....today was far worse. Maybe because my democrat acquaintances figured they'd win and didn't need to be so vocal???
My first wish is that things get peaceful quickly. My second is that I can find moderates to hang with. I think I'm in the minority around here.
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Post by AnotherPea on Nov 10, 2016 1:06:47 GMT
I just looked at my FB. Someone posted "I hate all Republicans! Fuck them all and may they eat shit and die!" This is from a well-educated person who was passionate about the election but never did I think they would post something like this. A student of mine said something very similar in the hall today. I told him to watch his language. His friend said I must be a racist republican myself and it was his right as a "nigger " to hate trump. I gave him the teacher look and my student whisked him away saying "naw, she's alright...but she don't like cussing ". 99% of these kids are just spewing what they hear from home and community. A 14 Year old just doesn't have the life experience to be that invested In a political candidate. They grab onto whomever *their group/party their community accepts and parrot what they hear. Hell, many adults do the same thing. I can't fault him for his ignorant rant but I can call him out for his cursing. THAT he does know better. |
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 10, 2016 1:26:38 GMT
I haven't seen much hatred on my fb. I think I would have seen much more if Clinton would have won.
I have seen some posts about "apparently I am a white, uneducated male" because that is all that voted for Trump and I have to sit on my hands and said white, uneducated females also voted for him in droves and you do fall into that category.
I see a lot of sadness, especially by teachers and other school personnel who are trying to reassure their students.
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Post by mallie on Nov 10, 2016 1:43:25 GMT
I am mostly seeing sadness and fear. A lot of the fear is coming from parents of daughters who fear that sexual predatory behavior is now normalized and will increase and from my black family/friends who truly fear that we are returning to the days of lynching.
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Post by ahiller on Nov 10, 2016 1:49:14 GMT
President Obama and Secretary Clinton's speeches were wonderful - as well as Donald Trump's last night. I truly hope we can put this election behind us and remember that we're all Americans. Tipping my hat to President Obama for intramural scrimmage - it sure hasn't felt that way. I think it's been a crazy 12 hours - hopefully sentiment around the country will rebound as quickly as the markets (as an aside - crazy to see how hard the futures fell last night and then see how quickly it turned green today) Here is *my* problem with Donald Trump's speech. His plea to come together rings hollow unless he comes out and flat out apologizes for the horrible things he has said about many groups of people. Promoting racism is not a way to lead, nor does it inspire people to come together. I was always taught that respect cannot be demanded, it can only be earned. He's not behaved in a manner to earn my respect. Until he meaningfully apologizes, the rest is all bullshit, as far as I am concerned. |
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Post by happyOCgirl on Nov 10, 2016 2:07:59 GMT
I'm a bit surprised by what I've witnessed today too. Many of the people I work with are very liberal. Extremists. They snapped at students, especially those who acted gleeful in their presence, as if the world should be shrouded in black. On teacher FB groups the drama was so thick you'd have thought we were all at a Shakespeare festival. In the break room one teacher exclaimed "I didn't know I lived among so many racists!" @@. However, I'm quite certain that he wouldn't have appreciated it if his candidate had won and someone called him a liar for voting for her. After all, to vote for her means you have to agree with her sins, right? I thought the days leading up to the election were bad....today was far worse. Maybe because my democrat acquaintances figured they'd win and didn't need to be so vocal??? My first wish is that things get peaceful quickly. My second is that I can find moderates to hang with. I think I'm in the minority around here. I had it at my school, too. One teacher asked another teacher how can she live with herself for voting Trump. A group in the faculty room said they didn't realize they worked with so many racists. I never talk about politics at school as I am always in a minority. My dues go to PAC funds for candidates I would never vote for. I have a problem my state does not see all students as equals. My state gives $1200 less per student per year to my district because other districts have more of a particular race than we do. Those districts have less students per classroom and quite a bit of additional support. My class alone gets $38,400 per year less, but the conservatives and moderates are considered racists for saying all students should get a fair share of the education budget. No surprise to us, a proposition to continue bilingual education passed. The problem with that, it helps one language. I have 5 additional languages in my class it will not help. |
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Nov 10, 2016 2:10:29 GMT
I'm seeing (reading) disbelief and disappointment. The anger is mostly because we have to somehow explain to our children that the grown-ups elected a person whose behavior would have gotten him grounded at home and suspended from school. Instead, though, we gave him the presidency of the United States of America.
People are sincerely and deeply concerned about the future in store for their daughters/granddaughters/nieces/etc., and also for their friends and loved ones in any minority group. They are not expecting lynchings, but they are expecting all minorities/minority groups/women to be treated more disrespectfully.
Just lots of sadness that the message of exclusion, disrespect, and unkindness toward diversity in general resonated with so many of their fellow Americans.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Nov 10, 2016 2:17:06 GMT
Here is *my* problem with Donald Trump's speech. His plea to come together rings hollow unless he comes out and flat out apologizes for the horrible things he has said about many groups of people. Promoting racism is not a way to lead, nor does it inspire people to come together. I was always taught that respect cannot be demanded, it can only be earned. He's not behaved in a manner to earn my respect. Until he meaningfully apologizes, the rest is all bullshit, as far as I am concerned. And until I see him speak off the cuff and not lose his shit and/or insult someone, I will not believe he has changed one bit. He was able to look calm and somewhat dignified when reading a speech that 1) stroked his ego by highlighting his winning the election, and 2) was a prepared speech where he did not have to do anything but read what was in front of him. I wonder if his staff is going to let him have his Twitter account back full time. SaveSave |
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Post by maurchclt on Nov 10, 2016 2:26:39 GMT
I was in the doctor's office while Hillary was giving her speech, it was a full waiting room. A man just stood right up in front of the tv and yelled "lock her up". Nobody confronted him, if he was that unhinged, who knew what he would do if we said something. And yes I was angry and scared.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 9:20:22 GMT
I wrote in another post I yelled at my poor husband. I was so upset and shocked. I honestly don't know why it hit me so hard because I had a feeling Trump was going to win. My husband kept telling me he was so excited for women because we got our first female president. He said more choice words about Donald than I ever could and he's a Republican. Oh, I wanted the glass ceiling shattered so badly. I was conflicted because she was not my favorite candidate. We got so close. We could all touch it. It was so much hope for us today and our little girls in our lives. We are going to break it. We are not just going to break it but shatter it someday.
Yes, I was one of the famed bawling women today. It just hurts. I am not angry at him or his supporter's. I sent congratulations to my friends on their wins and the candidates they supported. I got so many lovely replies too especially from guy friends who said they were so broken hearted for me because it was so close.
I saw a lot of beauty today, not hate. Hate was from social media feeds. Even though I feel very sad right now I am hopeful about the future.
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