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Post by myshelly on Nov 10, 2016 5:01:36 GMT
I just don't understand the hysterics about this.
There are many, many places that haven't had plastic bags at all (a true complete ban, not a measly 5 cent charge) and it's fine. People somehow still make purchase and get them home.
I haven't accepted a plastic bag in about 10 years. It's just so unnecessary. I went to WM tonight, bought 5 pairs of leggings and 3 pairs of kids pjs. I didn't have a bag with me because I had gone in a friend's car. So I just carried them. What is so hard about that? Just carry your stuff. Just bring bags.
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Post by stittsygirl on Nov 10, 2016 5:40:08 GMT
In some counties in Washington State (not all of them), bags aren't banned but they aren't given freely. Usually a charge of 5 cents per bag and those bags are paper, not plastic. Ticks off my husband to have to pay for a bag so he will stumble out the door with his arms loaded, crap flying everywhere. Really silly...  It can be a pain in the rear when traveling too We have 3 cars and the RV and it seems no matter how many bags we have they are never in the correct car/rig to use when we need them  It can also be a surprise if you didn't realize you crossed a county line that does have bags We live in Thurston county, which does have the plastic bag ban, but often shop at the commissary at Ft. Lewis which doesn't. I really don't mind using the reusable bags because I know it's helping the environment, but I like getting the plastic bags too to line our small waste baskets with. It did take us a while though to get into the habit of remembering to bring our bags when we shop . |
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Post by apmom on Nov 10, 2016 9:33:05 GMT
In Ireland we've been using our own bags for years, longer than the UK. It's not an issue, everyone takes bags with them or you pay for one. In shops like Aldi and Lidl it's common to use one of the packaging boxes to put your items in if you've forgotten a bag, they're happy for you to take them and you're not fumbling with lots of good in your arms. I remember being in Germany 24 years ago and lots of people using their own bags then.
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Post by corinne11 on Nov 10, 2016 9:58:22 GMT
Here in South Australia we have had a ban on plastic shopping bags for at least 10 years. You do get used to taking your own and it really isn't a problem. We have just been travelling interstate where there is no ban and we were given bags at the supermarket check out with only one item in it so there are just so many wasted bags in that state. I was just scrolling through and reading before I replied but you have just said exactly what I was going to type! We go to Sydney quite regularly to visit family and can't believe how quickly one item can be put in a bag before you even say "no thanks" They don't even ask you if you want one. And we are always surprised at how messy some places are with all the discarded cans and bottles. Because they are worth 10c here they are always collected by kids or people trying to make some money. There is an old, retired man who pulls a shopping trolley bag behind him and carries one of those plastic "claws" . Most mornings as I drive to work I see him walking along the main road cleaning up rubbish AND collecting cans! Corinne |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 9:59:07 GMT
In Ireland we've been using our own bags for years, longer than the UK. It's not an issue, everyone takes bags with them or you pay for one. In shops like Aldi and Lidl it's common to use one of the packaging boxes to put your items in if you've forgotten a bag, they're happy for you to take them and you're not fumbling with lots of good in your arms. I remember being in Germany 24 years ago and lots of people using their own bags then. Its such a simple thing to get used to and I see people here in Ireland always have their own bags, even the husband carries one. The fuss in the UK when it was introduced was ridiculous  |
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Post by gar on Nov 10, 2016 10:28:04 GMT
We've paid for all our disposable bags in Scotland for years. Really no big deal at all, and it's drastically cut down on bag waste. All bag sale revenue goes to good causes. I've nothing bad to say about it. Use reusables or pay a small fee for a disposable. Simple and effective. Good for Scotland. Â I think it is just something you would have to get used to doing. Â Exactly. It took me a bit longer to remember to take a bag if I went, say, clothes or gift shopping rather than food shopping but it's second nature now. I believe shops/businesses with fewer than 200 employees can't charge the 5p. |
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Post by gar on Nov 10, 2016 10:36:23 GMT
. I went to WM tonight, bought 5 pairs of leggings and 3 pairs of kids pjs. I didn't have a bag with me because I had gone in a friend's car. So I just carried them. What is so hard about that? Just carry your stuff. Just bring bags. To be fair it depends what you've bought...a few items of clothing are easy to carry and if you've finished shopping and are heading back to your car, great, but if you've bought several less manageable items and have more shopping to do its not quite so simple. Having said that - being in that situation tends to make you remember your bags next time!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 10:44:50 GMT
. I went to WM tonight, bought 5 pairs of leggings and 3 pairs of kids pjs. I didn't have a bag with me because I had gone in a friend's car. So I just carried them. What is so hard about that? Just carry your stuff. Just bring bags. Having said that - being in that situation tends to make you remember your bags next time! I just had flashbacks to Crackerjack  |
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Post by gar on Nov 10, 2016 11:02:04 GMT
Good shout! That sure brings back memories!  |
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Post by grinningcat on Nov 10, 2016 11:14:45 GMT
It really does become second nature to bring your own bags. I have two sets, one for each vehicle. It just became habit to have them. And it also means that you don't have to store the bags when you get home. It's not like you can ever really use them again, they generally have holes or tears anyway. I actually get really annoyed when I forget my bags. Oh... another bonus is that you can fit so much more in reusable bags and they won't fall apart if the bag is heavy! We've had the 5 cent charge for one use bags here now for... years. I honestly can't remember when it came in. The gnashing of teeth and wailing when it came in was impressive. People hate change... even when it's to something better.
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Post by Jockscrap on Nov 11, 2016 1:19:01 GMT
In Ireland we've been using our own bags for years, longer than the UK. It's not an issue, everyone takes bags with them or you pay for one. In shops like Aldi and Lidl it's common to use one of the packaging boxes to put your items in if you've forgotten a bag, they're happy for you to take them and you're not fumbling with lots of good in your arms. I remember being in Germany 24 years ago and lots of people using their own bags then. Its such a simple thing to get used to and I see people here in Ireland always have their own bags, even the husband carries one. The fuss in the UK when it was introduced was ridiculous
It was completely nuts - folk getting stopped by security because they were taking shopping baskets out of the store and all sorts of nonsense, all for the sake of saving a few pence on a bag. However, I have to say I don't remember any fuss when the charge was introduced in Scotland - it was when it came in to force in England some time later it all kicked off. 😀 What has been amazing is the effect on people's shopping habits as a result of this tiny wee charge. Even a big shop would only cost us less than the price of a daily newspaper in bags, yet the majority of us have almost completely stopped using them. It's great! Reusables can be purchased very cheaply from the supermarkets for 40p. The supermarkets also do 'bags for life' where you pay 10p for this stronger bag (twice as much as for a normal disposable carrier) and when it wears out, it's replaced for free. Tesco gave us all vouchers for a few of them when the charge came in. |
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Post by anxiousmom on Nov 11, 2016 1:47:20 GMT
Tax dollars at work deciding the big issues. Happens all over and drives me nuts. I wish they would do it here in Florida. We have the longest coastline in the US, have a gazillion lakes, streams, ponds, rivers, marshes and like. Plastic bags get in the water systems and cause incredible harm to the wildlife. They get caught on turtles, they cover the water and choke the life out of the plants that create life for the fish, birds get wrapped in them... The only thing that would stop businesses from using them would be governmental intervention. Too many people resist the idea for it to be voluntary. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 1:48:12 GMT
Bring your bags to TARGET!!!! They are charging as well. Need to grab about 3 more of their red reusable bags. As a bonus, you get .05 cents.off with each bag used.
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Post by valincal on Nov 11, 2016 3:02:21 GMT
Tax dollars at work deciding the big issues. Happens all over and drives me nuts. I wish they would do it here in Florida. We have the longest coastline in the US, have a gazillion lakes, streams, ponds, rivers, marshes and like. Plastic bags get in the water systems and cause incredible harm to the wildlife. They get caught on turtles, they cover the water and choke the life out of the plants that create life for the fish, birds get wrapped in them... The only thing that would stop businesses from using them would be governmental intervention. Too many people resist the idea for it to be voluntary. Sorry...I was not clear! I meant that these sorts of things should be decided upon without propositions, etc.. It is a no-brainer issue to me. I can't believe people in Florida are resistant to it! We do have plastic bags here but pay for them at many shops and we can recycle them through our city's blue box program. I use large plastic bins when I grocery shop. |
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Post by chaosisapony on Nov 11, 2016 3:07:35 GMT
I reuse plastic shopping bags all the time. Kinda bummed I'm going to have to start buying plastic bags for household garbage, emptying cat litter in, transporting items to and from work, etc. But I'm sure I'll adapt.
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Post by seaexplore on Nov 11, 2016 3:13:15 GMT
I live in CA.... DH went to the grocery store today. They charged him 10 cents per bag. He was PISSED! I didn't know it went into place IMMEDIATELY!
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Post by refugeepea on Nov 11, 2016 4:12:43 GMT
but I like getting the plastic bags too to line our small waste baskets with. Same here. I have a tri-level house so quite a few small waste baskets in almost every room. I don't see the ban happening anytime soon where I live. If it does, I'll just buy small garbage bags from the grocery store. I use them for my son's lunches too because I have to pack a lot of stuff for breakfast and lunch (he's special needs) and I never know what he will eat. I try to make it as easy as possible on his teachers. His backpack is usually quite heavy with other things like his ipad, so handling him, and an extra huge lunchbox is a lot of work for the teacher and aides. |
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Post by betty on Nov 11, 2016 4:58:42 GMT
but I like getting the plastic bags too to line our small waste baskets with. Same here. I have a tri-level house so quite a few small waste baskets in almost every room. I don't see the ban happening anytime soon where I live. If it does, I'll just buy small garbage bags from the grocery store. I use them for my son's lunches too because I have to pack a lot of stuff for breakfast and lunch (he's special needs) and I never know what he will eat. I try to make it as easy as possible on his teachers. His backpack is usually quite heavy with other things like his ipad, so handling him, and an extra huge lunchbox is a lot of work for the teacher and aides. Same here with reusing the bags. All the little trash cans and everyday for lunch for my son..and I am surprised sometimes when he can't find one in the cabinet. Where did they all go? Am I the only one icked out by the grubby bags people bring with them? Wadded up messes with cat hair all over them, weird stuff inside that needs to be shaken out, stains, etc? I don't blame the cashiers for being a little rude. Maybe it is just because I live in a area with a lot of seniors or something.. |
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Post by joelise on Nov 11, 2016 9:34:11 GMT
Its such a simple thing to get used to and I see people here in Ireland always have their own bags, even the husband carries one. The fuss in the UK when it was introduced was ridiculous
It was completely nuts - folk getting stopped by security because they were taking shopping baskets out of the store and all sorts of nonsense, all for the sake of saving a few pence on a bag. However, I have to say I don't remember any fuss when the charge was introduced in Scotland - it was when it came in to force in England some time later it all kicked off. 😀 What has been amazing is the effect on people's shopping habits as a result of this tiny wee charge. Even a big shop would only cost us less than the price of a daily newspaper in bags, yet the majority of us have almost completely stopped using them. It's great! Reusables can be purchased very cheaply from the supermarkets for 40p. The supermarkets also do 'bags for life' where you pay 10p for this stronger bag (twice as much as for a normal disposable carrier) and when it wears out, it's replaced for free. Tesco gave us all vouchers for a few of them when the charge came in. I have to say, I didn't notice any fuss in England when the law came in. Everyone I know thought it was a good idea. |
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Post by gar on Nov 11, 2016 9:42:40 GMT
It was completely nuts - folk getting stopped by security because they were taking shopping baskets out of the store and all sorts of nonsense, all for the sake of saving a few pence on a bag.  However,  I have to say I don't remember any fuss when the charge was introduced in Scotland - it was when it came in to force in England some time later it all kicked off. 😀 What has been amazing is the effect on people's shopping habits as a result of this tiny wee charge.  Even a big shop would only cost us less than the price of a daily newspaper in bags, yet the majority of us have almost completely stopped using them.  It's great! Reusables can be purchased very cheaply from the supermarkets for 40p.  The supermarkets also do 'bags for life' where you pay 10p for this stronger bag (twice as much as for a normal disposable carrier) and when it wears out, it's replaced for free.  Tesco gave us all vouchers for a few of them when the charge came in. I have to say, I didn't notice any fuss in England when the law came in. Everyone I know thought it was a good idea. Me too - we must have missed it! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 9:59:12 GMT
It was completely nuts - folk getting stopped by security because they were taking shopping baskets out of the store and all sorts of nonsense, all for the sake of saving a few pence on a bag. However, I have to say I don't remember any fuss when the charge was introduced in Scotland - it was when it came in to force in England some time later it all kicked off. 😀 What has been amazing is the effect on people's shopping habits as a result of this tiny wee charge. Even a big shop would only cost us less than the price of a daily newspaper in bags, yet the majority of us have almost completely stopped using them. It's great! Reusables can be purchased very cheaply from the supermarkets for 40p. The supermarkets also do 'bags for life' where you pay 10p for this stronger bag (twice as much as for a normal disposable carrier) and when it wears out, it's replaced for free. Tesco gave us all vouchers for a few of them when the charge came in. I have to say, I didn't notice any fuss in England when the law came in. Everyone I know thought it was a good idea. No, I don't remember that much fuss either to be honest. I've got used to it now and carry a reusable folded up " just for clothes" bag in my handbag. I have a habit of "impulse buy" clothing and I don't want to stuff some nice new clothes in the same bag as my food/cleaning products and whatever else I would have bought. I used to take traditional bags for food shopping way before the ban came in anyhow...the plastic ones were often not strong enough. |
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Post by camcas on Nov 11, 2016 10:19:49 GMT
Had this is Australia now for years
Really not a big deal
Has cut down on rubbish
We also have 10 c deposit on empty drink containers as well
You never see empty soft drink bottles ,cans or flavored milk cartons on the roadside or in rubbish bins
Great idea
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Post by mymindseyedpea on Nov 11, 2016 10:30:02 GMT
Bring your bags to TARGET!!!! They are charging as well. Need to grab about 3 more of their red reusable bags. As a bonus, you get .05 cents.off with each bag used. That's where I work for this season, and Im not a cashier but I am a back up at times. Today I rang a few people up and had to get used to asking the guests whether they wanted to purchase a bag or not. I wasn't sure whether to give them the bag credit or not now that we don't have any more plastic bags. I wonder if we will just give guests the credit everytime, or will they take the bag credit thing away? I didn't give anybody who went through my line bag credit today. This whole reusable bag thing totally threw me off my cashier routine today. And it totally toyed with my mind: I did try to stuff the bags as much as possible so I wouldn't have to charge the guest more bags. Then there was the purchases where 85% was food and the rest was cleaning products. Do I put the cleaning products in with the food or use another whole bag to put just 3 cleaning products in? Food should not be bagged with chemicals. And how will the meat be bagged if it's not already in one of those produce bags? When I was a courtesy clerk at a grocery store I always made sure the meat was wrapped in a bag. Yesterday, before the reusable bags were in effect ( we didn't have them yet ), there was a guest who bought a bunch of canned foods ( like 20 of them ) and asked me to not make the bags heavy. That was like 4 cans in each plastic bag. And then a bunch of other stuff. Would she have been ok with using that many 10 cent bags? And the bags to purchase don't have a hook to stay on the bag holder, so that will most likely take longer to bag purchases because the bags are awkward. ( just a few of the thoughts I had today about this whole bag law ) |
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Post by Jockscrap on Nov 11, 2016 17:55:35 GMT
English peas ... I think the fuss was entirely written about by the Daily Mail and blown up for the shocked delight of their readers! I doubt there are many real life people who objected to such a sensible bit of legislation.
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Post by gar on Nov 11, 2016 18:16:34 GMT
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Post by myshelly on Nov 11, 2016 19:08:13 GMT
I reuse plastic shopping bags all the time. Kinda bummed I'm going to have to start buying plastic bags for household garbage, emptying cat litter in, transporting items to and from work, etc. But I'm sure I'll adapt. Why wouldn't you use an actual bag to transport items to and from work? The only trash can I have a liner in is the kitchen one. The others don't need one. |
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Post by myshelly on Nov 11, 2016 19:10:37 GMT
Bring your bags to TARGET!!!! They are charging as well. Need to grab about 3 more of their red reusable bags. As a bonus, you get .05 cents.off with each bag used. That's where I work for this season, and Im not a cashier but I am a back up at times. Today I rang a few people up and had to get used to asking the guests whether they wanted to purchase a bag or not. I wasn't sure whether to give them the bag credit or not now that we don't have any more plastic bags. I wonder if we will just give guests the credit everytime, or will they take the bag credit thing away? I didn't give anybody who went through my line bag credit today. This whole reusable bag thing totally threw me off my cashier routine today. And it totally toyed with my mind: I did try to stuff the bags as much as possible so I wouldn't have to charge the guest more bags. Then there was the purchases where 85% was food and the rest was cleaning products. Do I put the cleaning products in with the food or use another whole bag to put just 3 cleaning products in? Food should not be bagged with chemicals. And how will the meat be bagged if it's not already in one of those produce bags? When I was a courtesy clerk at a grocery store I always made sure the meat was wrapped in a bag. Yesterday, before the reusable bags were in effect ( we didn't have them yet ), there was a guest who bought a bunch of canned foods ( like 20 of them ) and asked me to not make the bags heavy. That was like 4 cans in each plastic bag. And then a bunch of other stuff. Would she have been ok with using that many 10 cent bags? And the bags to purchase don't have a hook to stay on the bag holder, so that will most likely take longer to bag purchases because the bags are awkward. ( just a few of the thoughts I had today about this whole bag law ) I've been grocery shopping at target for as long as I've been an adult. The reuseable bags have never once, ever been an issue for any target cashier I've encountered. |
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Post by georgiapea on Nov 11, 2016 19:33:19 GMT
I hope this never happens where I live. So if you don't receive free plastic bags from your grocery purchases, what do you use for all the things the plastic bags are used for? You buy packs of plastic bags to line trash baskets in the bathroom and to collect cat litter in? Are the stores who sell you grocery bags just cheap-jack?
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Post by myshelly on Nov 11, 2016 19:54:58 GMT
I hope this never happens where I live. So if you don't receive free plastic bags from your grocery purchases, what do you use for all the things the plastic bags are used for? You buy packs of plastic bags to line trash baskets in the bathroom and to collect cat litter in? Are the stores who sell you grocery bags just cheap-jack? I don't use plastic bags for anything. I don't line small trash cans. I don't have a cat. |
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Post by Bitchy Rich on Nov 11, 2016 19:57:27 GMT
Wish they would pass that law in more states. I bought a pair of socks at Kohls and the cashier automatically started to get a bag for me, to which I said no thanks. Why do people need a bag for one or two items?
Making me laugh that people are annoyed at having to pay a dime for a bag. Hey, if that's what it takes to get people riled up enough to not take the bags, then great!
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