ginacivey
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Post by ginacivey on Aug 11, 2014 12:58:22 GMT
St Louis had a crazy night last night
Looting sprang from a vigil for a young man killed in a police shooting
shots fired at police - 32 arrested
things seem calmer this moring
i am watching the news and a man came on speaking about the violence in last night...and violence as a call for justice
he spoke...said all the usual things
and said
'what we need is a paradigm shift' - then segued into another thought
my question - is 'paradigm shift' a common phrase? i happen to know what it is
but it seems to me that it is a phrase that might make people scratch their head
i wonder if he was attempting to make himself sound 'credible' - is it part of his vernacular? - if so, then he probably should learn to tailor his verbiage to his audience
so my question again
off the top of your head do you understand what a paradigm shift is?
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Post by annaintx on Aug 11, 2014 13:00:02 GMT
Yes. I'm impressed that someone used that phrase on the news.
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Post by MommyofTriplets on Aug 11, 2014 13:01:10 GMT
Yes
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Post by delilahtwo on Aug 11, 2014 13:02:53 GMT
Yes I do. I understand what you are saying but I disagree with you. When you say "tailor verbiage to his audience" sounds to me that you are saying "dumb down what he is saying because the audience is stupid". I'm not trying to be a jerk here but why shouldn't a term such as paradigm shift be used? It isn't something like a medical term which only a select group of people would know.
I think people should be exposed to more vocabulary as opposed to less.
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Post by gajitldy on Aug 11, 2014 13:02:57 GMT
No.
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Post by grinningcat on Aug 11, 2014 13:04:11 GMT
I know what paradigm shift is and it is refreshing to hear that someone is using proper verbiage in the everyday instead of dumbing themselves down. It's about time that people use a broad vocabulary.
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Post by sharlag on Aug 11, 2014 13:05:04 GMT
I heard somewhere that most TV is aimed to a 7th grade education. I wonder if the news is in that category?
I thought I knew the term, googled it, and it confirmed what I thought. But does the phrase really fit the new story without additional discussion?
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Post by Judy26 on Aug 11, 2014 13:05:28 GMT
Yes. While not used frequently in every day speech, it is a phrase used often in HS History, Civics, and Sociology classes. I would think many adults would understand the meaning of it.
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Post by eisforennui on Aug 11, 2014 13:05:40 GMT
totally agreed, grinningcat - every time someone on a tv show says, "in ENGLISH, please?" i just want to change the channel. not everyone is a member of the drooling masses.
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ginacivey
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Post by ginacivey on Aug 11, 2014 13:06:32 GMT
i don't think i mean his audience is stupid
i don't think it's a phrase that a lot of people would recognize
it doesn't make them stupid
i do agree people should be exposed to more vocabulary
maybe 'we need a paradigm shift - a change in how we think and act'
i was just surprised at the term - i even googled it to make sure i understood what he was saying
gina
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Post by mollycoddle on Aug 11, 2014 13:07:02 GMT
I think that it's fine to use it. Was there discussion afterwards?
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Post by katybee on Aug 11, 2014 13:07:35 GMT
Wait... I'm confused. Are you saying you don't now what a paradigm shift is? It's a very common phrase. I hear and use it all the time and I'm not exactly a Rhodes Scholar...
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Post by austnscrapaddict on Aug 11, 2014 13:08:41 GMT
5 years ago this phrase was used very often with Co workers in that phase of our business. Certain words and phrases are appropriate and best fitting in certain scenarios.
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ginacivey
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Post by ginacivey on Aug 11, 2014 13:09:04 GMT
i must live with and hang around the drooling masses
i've asked a dozen people - and none of them could tell me what the phrase meant
gina
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ginacivey
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Post by ginacivey on Aug 11, 2014 13:10:09 GMT
i heard the term - was familiar with it - but i did double check that the definition i thought of...was actually the correct definition
no. there was no discussion about a shift in thinking/acting
he made the statement - then moved on to another thought -
gina
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Post by eastcoastpea on Aug 11, 2014 13:10:35 GMT
I do. But, I'm guessing a lot of his audience didn't know.
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Post by Kelpea on Aug 11, 2014 13:10:49 GMT
yes and also impressed people are actually spelling "verbiage" correctly on this thread. 'Cause it's not VERBAGE.  |
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Post by eisforennui on Aug 11, 2014 13:12:28 GMT
i even work at a company that has a product called Paradigm.
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Post by melanell on Aug 11, 2014 13:13:52 GMT
You know, if there are people who never heard it before, then good. I think it's good for people to have to go look something up and learn something new. And the news seems like a perfect place to expose people to new things. |
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Post by oaksong on Aug 11, 2014 13:15:07 GMT
Yes, but something more effective than a paradigm shift would be needed to stop looters. Without knowing the exact context, IMO it's a useless comment given the situation, and implies that the violence is justified.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 13:17:30 GMT
Yes, I know what it means.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 13:18:23 GMT
I was pretty sure I knew what it meant, but looked it up and understood it correctly. I didn't know the origins of the word.
I do think in the context of the news it would have been best if he had used the phrase and then explained how it would apply in the situation he was discussing.
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ginacivey
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Post by ginacivey on Aug 11, 2014 13:19:40 GMT
the whole looting situation - just don't get it
why destroy your own neighborhood?
and i was surprised by the things being carried out of the store - toliet paper? $10 fans from the dollar store -
and the gas station - in the middle of the neighborhood was burned to the ground -
hello people - this is YOUR gas station - where are you going to go now?
but i digress
gina
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Post by anxiousmom on Aug 11, 2014 13:28:02 GMT
I heard somewhere that most TV is aimed to a 7th grade education. I wonder if the news is in that category? I thought I knew the term, googled it, and it confirmed what I thought. But does the phrase really fit the new story without additional discussion? That is kind of what I was wondering? Was the term used appropriately in the context? Sometimes I think people learn really cool terms and words but don't always have a full grasp of the meaning-which then leads to usage that doesn't always *quite* fit the context. |
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Aug 11, 2014 13:36:15 GMT
Yes, I know what it is and yes I think it should be used in proper context. As a teacher, I still use the big words most of the time, but I try to either define or use them in context.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Aug 11, 2014 13:42:21 GMT
I'll admit that I had to Google it.
I guess I'm one of the drooling masses.
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Post by ChicagoKTS on Aug 11, 2014 13:42:28 GMT
Yes, I know what it means. It was commonly used buzz phrase in the corporate world a few years back. I don't hear it used much anymore.
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Post by perumbula on Aug 11, 2014 13:51:38 GMT
I know what it means and I consider it common enough that I am surprised that you think most people wouldn't. Like others have said it was a corporate buzzword for several years.
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Post by sharlag on Aug 11, 2014 13:59:36 GMT
I know what it means and I consider it common enough that I am surprised that you think most people wouldn't. Like others have said it was a corporate buzzword for several years. This is where I've heard it-- on TV when the program was trying to convey a corporate feel. |
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ginacivey
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Post by ginacivey on Aug 11, 2014 14:01:11 GMT
perumbla
maybe it's because - very few people in this area work for 'corporate America'
i live rurally - farmers and blue collar workers - small town America - it's a not a term used around here
and if the 'target audience' is the actual looters....do THEY know what a 'paradigm shift' is?
the rest of us know that looting isn't the answer...the speaker doesn't have to tell US that we need to start thinking and acting differently
gina
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